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  • Originally posted by Bubbly View Post
    Hi guys,

    I got my HH HUNK last monday.. Yet to complete the registration processes... Have done 50km in the ODO (I might violate the maximum distance (50km) that a bike should have covered before the registration process... I might be even fined by RTO for that... My dealer told me that since the ODO is digital we can switch off the key during RTO process and the RTO officer might not notice it)

    Ok here is a quick clash between the bikes I have owned..... GS150R vs HUNK


    1) BUILD QUALITY - I feel that Suzuki wins here.. Hunk has got a muscular and good build quality but not upto the GS.

    2) KERB WEIGHT - GS is the heaviest in the present 150cc segment (149kg)... Hunk is 3 kgs lesser (146Kg) but I feel Hunk to be very lighter when compared to the GS (even the height is lesser when compared to the GS)

    3) RIDING COMFORT - GS has got a pure commuter position... Hunk gives a sportier seating position but not as sportier as the pulsar or apache (Hopefully this wont hurt my back much )... It is quite comfortable in the Hunk to do a zip zap in traffic when compared with the GS... Also thanks for the lesser turning radius of Hunk (when compared to GS) which makes a U turn quite comfortable.

    4) LOOKS - I feel that the Hunk is the winner here.. I think most will agree with me

    5) ENGINE - Hunk shares the same heart as that of CBZ and Unicorn... I have driven both the CBZ and UNI... Even the Hunk feels the same for me... The smoothness of the GS (for the initial 1000km) was very good when compared to the Hunk here... I have to wait till 1000km to check whether the same smoothness persists (In case of my GS I missed it)

    6) GEARS - GS had a butter smooth gear shifts right from the day I took the delivery from the showroom... My Hunk gear shifts are hard now... Many say that it will get smoother as services progress... Lets see

    7) DIGITAL CONSOLE - GS has one of the very neat consoles in the 150cc segment... Now the HUNK's console is like the commercial (masala) movie kind... Very bright and catchy (all my friends loved it at the very first sight of it ).. Now I am mad about my Hunk's console and deeply in love with her

    8) SUSPENSION - I feel Hunk is very good in handling bumps and pot holes with the GRS suspension when compared to my GS


    What do I miss in the HUNK when compared to the GS?

    - 6th cog
    - Gear indicator
    - Integrated rear indicator lamps
    - Engine kill switch (I miss this badly in traffic.. I dont know why HH missed it)
    - Pilot lamps
    - Digital fuel indicator (Hunk has got a analog fuel indicator)
    - TRIP A and TRIP B in console (Hunk has only one TRIP)
    - Kick start (Hunk comes with a MF battery from Honda... I hope it wont let me down )

    Hunk comes with tubeless tyres, very good rear brakes (In my 20 months of ownership with my GS the rear brakes were not at all satisfactory), very good headlight throw (which i missed in the GS even after changing RR unit) and a 5 years warranty from HH (3years + 2 years extended warranty).

    I hope my write up was informative... Also useful for prospective buyers with confusion between these 2 bikes ... Keep in touch guys
    Congrats on your purchase buddy,I thought you would go for the Pulsar135LS as you said your parents wont allow a 150cc anymore.............anyway,since you went for the Hunk,I think you made some errors in choosing your bike.

    I don't know,why and how your accidents were caused on the GS,whether you weren't able to handle the Bike's weight or the braking systems of GS did not help you much during panic situations or you overcooked while doing zig zag with the GS,I am not sure off that......

    But with the Hunk,I think you have went down the 150cc ladder,
    If you needed a lighter bike with easy handling dynamics and a massive looker,then you could have went for the FZ16........the 136kg,153 cc,fatter rear tyre no nonsense streetbike.....it would have cost you 6-7grands more but would have been the best for you.

    Hunk seems to be of lower height because the saddle width is not much.People often conceives GS to be a high bike,but infact saddle height is 790mm like most 150cc.What makes the GS seem higher is the wider seat,which eats away into our thigh length and hence makes our legs reach shorter to the ground.I can easily find my footing on the ground with the Pulsar220F with its heavier weight and higher seat,just because the seat is designed narrower.(I am 5 feet 4 inches).

    Why I despise Hunk,its because I have already ridden it many times and at its top speed too,
    Hunk vibrates abnormally high above 80-85kmph and needs a lot of guts to push beyond hundred,I have registered 120kmph on the speedo of a Hunk,with full crouch and with difficulty................above 90kmph,it is not good at picking speeds.
    Hunk is a good handler,but I am so much adopted to GS,that I can handle a GS better than Hunk any day and can squeeze the GS through the narrowest space in traffic.Rather to me I felt,Hunk was stubborn to change directions at high speeds....like zig-zagging on the NH between trucks.It headed straight and was nervous while changing lanes.
    Gearshift would always be harder than GS,gearshift on Hunk is like any other HH premium bikes like the CBZ-Xtreme and the Karizma.
    GSR's console has a different level of sophistication,its different anyday from any other bikes.No other console can delight me that much,no,not even RTR's sporty blue or FZ16's fully digital one............I leave out the digital Hunk,its a new design in the market and may have resemblance of digital consoles already found on different bikes.
    Hunk easily loses composure if it hits potholes at higher speeds,unlike the GS which has been my life saviour in many high speed pothole hits or bad section of roads..........in one word,the suspension on my GS150R is miraculous even mythical won't be an overstatement.
    Fuel efficiency is lower than GS150R.
    Looks according to me,is very subjective.......FZ is better looking than Hunk anyday.While the design of the GS150R spells sophistication everywhere,its a bike which one can ride in Tuxedo and as well as Tees and cargo.

    Th rear brake is an issue on the GSR,and this may only be the thing better on the Hunk and maybe on all other bikes in India

    I have ridden the Hunk many times and its own owner has said to me,GS150R is a very high quality bike with every minute details meant to meet perfection.

    Anyway,you enjoy your new ride.

    Here is a picture of my first ride to the sea coast on my then new GS150R,the bike was hardly 300kms old,still in run-in and yet to get its number and it was accompanied by a 9000kms old Hunk..........over a stretch of 600kms,all high speed cruising.
    Last edited by MACH50; 12-18-2010, 12:09 AM.
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    • @ Bubbly

      Congrats for your new ride, so new Hunk is a formidable competitor to GS. After doing some 1000 kms give one more detailed comparison. I just took a look about the wheelbase to know about the turning radius, the dimensions are very similar. I think its the steering angle that makes GS less maneuverable a 5 degree more to either side would have been great...

      Also provide ever important mileage reports .
      Well-trained reflexes are quicker than luck.........

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      • i disagree with you anup.........hadit been even more 5 degrees then the bike would most probably tend to fall every time you take a u turn......thats what i think......
        what do others have to say on that........if i am wrong then i would probably increase the degrees of turn.....
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        • We never turn handle to extreme end while making a U turn. The real difference comes when we try to park or ride slowly. I felt real difference on driving Unicorn and GS in slow speeds, maneuvering is easy at low speeds. There is no difference to maintain running bike as low as 3Kmph without keep our foot down.

          I second you Mach about the ride height, its the width of the seat that makes us feel like saddle is higher (I'm 5 6', I can barely touch both legs simultaneously). Even I mentioned about reducing saddle height while giving a feedback to Suzuki.

          An update about mileage returned 60 Kmpl* (yet to hit reserve). Just rode it as normal, with pillion, city riding conditions and never revved past 4.5K. So I think we can conclude GS as the most efficient of 150 cc.
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          • so you sure if i increase the turn by even 5 degrees then it will be a lot helpful........was planning to chop off the restrictors and weld them again!
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            • I think it really helps at low speeds and in parking. I heard that some driving schools do this to help the bikes for making it easier to do 8.

              Lets wait for experts to answer this one.......
              Well-trained reflexes are quicker than luck.........

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              • @venuvinodks: Ok bro, will be going for Zappers in the summer, till then the correct air pressure in the tyres will do the job(Actually the tyres were not filled with correct pressure so I felt the need of new tyres)

                @All: The braking of this bike is totally awesome.... Let me skip four accidents in a single day, the best one of which was when a truck right in front of me driving at about 80kmph, hit its power brakes when a MAD cow went in front of it, and then at that moment, everything went slow, and I hit both the brakes and somehow I was able to do a Stoppie(which I've never done before) till the front tyre almost hit the truck(it stopped almost an inch before), the experience was totally cool.
                (Please don't say me to drive slow, coz whenever I do, there happen to be an accident involving me as well)

                Though I wish it could have more power since sometimes I enter a turn at some speed and begin loosing the speed which require me to lower the gear in between the turn forcing me to increase the radius of the turn because of the power lag while gear shift.....
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                • Adjusting Swingarm??

                  Guys, can anyone please tell me how to adjust the swingarm to make it a little softer since the payload on the bike isn't that much???
                  (I don't have its owner's manual)
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                  • Originally posted by Gagan0123 View Post
                    @venuvinodks: Ok bro, will be going for Zappers in the summer, till then the correct air pressure in the tyres will do the job(Actually the tyres were not filled with correct pressure so I felt the need of new tyres)

                    @All: The braking of this bike is totally awesome.... Let me skip four accidents in a single day, the best one of which was when a truck right in front of me driving at about 80kmph, hit its power brakes when a MAD cow went in front of it, and then at that moment, everything went slow, and I hit both the brakes and somehow I was able to do a Stoppie(which I've never done before) till the front tyre almost hit the truck(it stopped almost an inch before), the experience was totally cool.
                    (Please don't say me to drive slow, coz whenever I do, there happen to be an accident involving me as well)

                    Though I wish it could have more power since sometimes I enter a turn at some speed and begin loosing the speed which require me to lower the gear in between the turn forcing me to increase the radius of the turn because of the power lag while gear shift.....
                    cool........congo.....you are the second fellow on xbhp after mach who did a stoppie on GS...
                    dude...its the fear in you for overshooting which makes you slow down.....its natural.....it has never happened with me....as i corner through the curve........and if you want more power then get the 2010 suzuki raiders engine,it produces a f*****g 16 bhp from stock engine and do some mods on it....you will surely cross 150 on speedo......now thats something one man thristy for power would like!!!
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                    • Originally posted by Maestro View Post
                      so you sure if i increase the turn by even 5 degrees then it will be a lot helpful........was planning to chop off the restrictors and weld them again!
                      Originally posted by Gagan0123 View Post
                      ]Guys, can anyone please tell me how to adjust the swingarm to make it a little softer since the payload on the bike isn't that much???
                      (I don't have its owner's manual)
                      Take my suggestion,GS150R is as good as it gets...........no need to mod,chop and destroy the originality which you would only regret later on

                      Originally posted by Gagan0123 View Post
                      @All: The braking of this bike is totally awesome.... Let me skip four accidents in a single day, the best one of which was when a truck right in front of me driving at about 80kmph, hit its power brakes when a MAD cow went in front of it, and then at that moment, everything went slow, and I hit both the brakes and somehow I was able to do a Stoppie(which I've never done before) till the front tyre almost hit the truck(it stopped almost an inch before), the experience was totally cool.
                      You are a lucky guy,but the rear brake on my bike sucks while the Front disc is lovely in every sense of riding,I feel I need a stronger rear brake to control the speed that I cook up instantly on the GS.

                      Originally posted by Gagan0123 View Post
                      (Please don't say me to drive slow, coz whenever I do, there happen to be an accident involving me as well)
                      Same is the case with me But do use sense while pushing the bike

                      Originally posted by Gagan0123 View Post
                      Though I wish it could have more power since sometimes I enter a turn at some speed and begin loosing the speed which require me to lower the gear in between the turn forcing me to increase the radius of the turn because of the power lag while gear shift.....
                      You dont Blip the throttle ???
                      GS150R is a long stroke bike,and trust me,in corners you need to blip the throttle before upshifting.
                      or you can do it my way,which is a bit risky,
                      I enter corner in lower gears with the clutch pressed,helps keep the speed constant,handle it out of apex.........then go straight on the gas and throttle(this part is a bit scary,but our GS handles it well),the lower gear feeds it acceleration and I upshift fast taking full advantage of the short gearing ratio.
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                      • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                        GS150R is a long stroke bike,and trust me,in corners you need to blip the throttle before upshifting Downshifting
                        or you can do it my way,which is a bit risky,
                        I enter corner in lower gears with the clutch pressed,helps keep the speed constant,handle it out of apex.........then go straight on the gas and throttle(this part is a bit scary,but our GS handles it well),the lower gear feeds it acceleration and I upshift fast taking full advantage of the short gearing ratio.
                        That my way is very dangerous, orthodox style of riding is to complete all your braking and shifting before starting to tilt the bike for negotiating the curve. While braking if we suddenly grab the clutch, the bike speeds a little and we have to compensate with braking, if all these are done simultaneously(braking at last moment, pulling clutch to shift gears) one will definitely miss the braking spot and may override the curve.

                        Attacking curves is the most exciting one in biking, but sadly its also the most vulnerable point. Where we cannot accelerate or decelerate, either of them gives a low side. The best way is to make sure the drive through the curve is uniform without any need for correction and always leave a room for correction if there is a decreasing radius turn, poth holes, emergencies etc. There is another way of gaining some ground by using trail braking where we use a little front brake to keep the pressure on the front tire for tight corner entry. I read about these in some auto magazines, if I'm wrong please feel free to correct.
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                        • Hippo Sez

                          Congrats to Bubbly on his Hunk...
                          The only reason i did not like Hunk initially was the vibs
                          Its a good looker from the rear sides and I never felt it looked " comical "
                          Frankly even I dont find the name Hunk annoying...Dazzler is

                          BTW yesterday was cruising at ~116 on NCR road @7.30 AM and happen to see a blue esteem with Team-Bhp & xBhp logos on the rear spoiler with the same xbhp magazine DEC10 cover photo, enlarged & plastered on the front door...wondering do they have any tie-up and does xBhp have any promotional mela going on

                          With regards to cornering, to add to maestro & mach's comments, voluntary counter-steering (once practised) is the ultimate mechanism to enter/exit a curve at good speed without any fear of going and hitting the guard rails...

                          In view of my getting a gixxer in the future (hopefully ), I have been trying out all types of track techniques on highways/flyovers...Counter-Steering on GS makes you believe, you are riding an extremely short turning radius bike...its gr8 once you perfect it...the baby hippo can do a voluntary stoppie (I am yet to accomplish it...dont wanna hurt my baby plump gixxer), because I tried jamming the front brakes at 80km/h, and I felt a more sustained pressure can do a stoppie on good traction surfaces...
                          Chennai has Multiple Climate Disorder u see

                          These past few days, while going/returning from work, have been really testing the bike's limits.

                          >> Changed Oil again to Motul 3000T 20W40 at a local mechanic (after 1.2K)
                          >> Using mix of Normal/Xtra Premium always ( $$$ is )
                          >> Touched 125 km/h once (very near MY sane top speed of 130km/h on R15) on NCR and reached office 20 mins earlier
                          >> Counter-Steering, and going to 9K+ RPM from 3+ gear...Bike is just AWESOME past 8K RPM mark...Its hippo on rockets
                          It screams and accelerates like magic to 115 and with 0-vibs

                          >> At 26.5K ODO and abuse endured on my/cousin's hands, I can say this bike can easily take punishment and be robust/mechanical-issue free for kms (provided you take care of this hunkie hippo)

                          >> Issues such as tank mouth oxidation/Headlight beam are minor, as this bike frame and Engine is solid. Period (Or it might be a defective one as Akfara and other have experienced)

                          PS: If you notice a guy, driving a Black shining hippo with an AGV blue/black helmet and a green/gray Victorinox backpack...ITS ME
                          Give me a honk/flash some lights pls How about an early morning kappi (roadside " Kappi " is tons better than Office F&H " Cappuchino " or any Coffee Day I have tasted )

                          Hurray to Kappi.Cheerios

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                          • Can you explain about this voluntary counter steering?. I have read about counter steering but not about this. As you said it requires some skill from the rider to master GS. On my trip to Athirapilly I traded bike with a friend with Unicorn and he was always slow out of tight corners and was missing shifts(unfamiliar with 6th gear). The short gear ratio can be used to obtain speed without hurting mileage . It makes us busy with gears but its fun....

                            PS: If you ride this fast no one will ever catch up with you except Mach, Maestro.........
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                            • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                              Take my suggestion,GS150R is as good as it gets...........no need to mod,chop and destroy the originality which you would only regret later on
                              Buddy, actually I feel as if the previous owner of the bike has made it harder, since he weighed 110 Kg while I only weigh 70 Kg(I bought a used bike to test and practice driving 150cc bikes and coz of the mixed reviews of GS on the net), so the suspensions are not being fully used by the weight I have, thats why I want to know....

                              Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                              Same is the case with me But do use sense while pushing the bike



                              Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                              You dont Blip the throttle ???
                              GS150R is a long stroke bike,and trust me,in corners you need to blip the throttle before upshifting.
                              or you can do it my way,which is a bit risky,
                              I enter corner in lower gears with the clutch pressed,helps keep the speed constant,handle it out of apex.........then go straight on the gas and throttle(this part is a bit scary,but our GS handles it well),the lower gear feeds it acceleration and I upshift fast taking full advantage of the short gearing ratio.
                              Sorry for my ignorance in terms of terminologies you guys use, assuming by blipping you mean to pull the throttle while cornering and leaving the clutch to get the power down to the wheels; I can say that I do blip at the corners, but I just forget that its still in the upper gear and at the moment I need the acceleration, I find out the need to shift the gear, at that time, shifting and then delivering costs a bit of time, while in case of pulsar, you can get somewhat more power while you use the clutch even in the higher gears.

                              Originally posted by Maestro View Post
                              cool........congo.....you are the second fellow on xbhp after mach who did a stoppie on GS...
                              Thanks buddy, but I didn't did it myself, it just happened, and now since I "know" that the bike is able to do it, I'll look forward to do it on purpose on some good vacant roads in my city, which in my case are in abundance.

                              Originally posted by Maestro View Post
                              dude...its the fear in you for overshooting which makes you slow down.....its natural.....it has never happened with me....as i corner through the curve........and if you want more power then get the 2010 suzuki raiders engine,it produces a f*****g 16 bhp from stock engine and do some mods on it....you will surely cross 150 on speedo......now thats something one man thristy for power would like!!!
                              Buddy, I don't believe changing the engine would do anything good to the bike, but it might damage the transmission, the chain, or other joints involved in delivering power from engine to the wheels(just theoretical info)
                              and it would cost a lot of pennies, which my budget won't allow.


                              @All: Will be giving my bike for the service tomorrow, since it would be my first time, I need your advice and assistance,
                              I want to know if you just leave your bike in the service center and take it on the time they said or do you watch everything yourself?

                              also do you take the oil for change yourself or believe that they'll change it?
                              My dad deals in oil, so I guess I can get any oil I want for the bike, provided I know what I need, so which oil should be the best? it was mentioned in the previous posts that we can use 5w40 to 15w40, but which one is considered the best and which brand should I use? And can I trust that service center mechanic will actually use the oil I took and not just pour in any other oil?

                              Here are the list of problems that I'll be enlisted in the service jobs list:
                              1. Three Unknown Wires Hanging out close to engine still every electronic thing is working fine
                              2. Mileage varying randomly
                              3. Noise at the back(either due to chain or clutch plate or something else, all I know is it a sort of "kad kad" sound generated when I downshift the gear and release the clutch slowly(if I release fast, then no kad kad))
                              4. Two Missing Bolts of the headlamp causing vibration
                              5. Sometimes having problem in getting it to neutral(it goes to 1st gear if I press it to the front, and it goes to 2nd if I press back, but getting neutral..... seems messy)
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                              • Originally posted by Anupdas View Post
                                Can you explain about this voluntary counter steering?. I have read about counter steering but not about this.
                                As far as I know, the term "voluntary" just means that you knowingly counter steer your bike and by counter steering, it means that you just turn your bike's front wheel in the opposite direction where you want to turn, and lean your body towards the direction where you want to turn, and then the bike will turn in the direction you want to turn.... It might sound a bit odd(steering in opposite direction) but it works perfectly on GS150R(tested a 90 degree turn on a circle at the speed of 85kmph).
                                It will require a bit of practice which you can start firstly by keeping the handle straight instead of moving it to steer, and use your body weight to steer the bike, then once you start getting higher leaning angles, your body will automatically know when to counter steer the bike to get higher grip for turning while leaning.

                                CAUTION: Don't try it on the road with lot of sand or water, or else, the bike will lose control and start to skid unexpectedly....
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