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  • Originally posted by Bullet500 View Post
    Request you not to take me wrong, i spent weeks together to come to a conclusion before i bought GS. That was my 14th bike, and i have seen all other bikes owned by me were good at rear brake. At least they were doing the job but GS... Pathetic. It is a known thing that the ONLY problem with GS is rear brake.
    First, thanks to almighty that you are safe to write your experience here. Hope you wear helmet. Drive safe.

    Sir, with all due respect, I seriously doubt your claim. I have been riding GS for the last 10months and I found the braking to more precise and effective than that of any Bajaj(the rear brakes only, disks are not compared). I have no doubt on your biking experience or your braking skills, but I believe it is the right technique in braking that is necessary to get the best out of any brakes rather than the quality of the brakes themselves. Quality does matter a lot, but you must be aware of the traffic situation and idiotic driving habits in metros, and I do live in a metro which is well equipped with idiotic senseless drivers, who test my braking skills, if not regularly but quite often and everytime I have to panic brake, thanks to the brakes in GS, I have always managed to stop well ahead of a obstacle. I use 60-40 braking(rear, front resp.) to avoid the nose dive syndrome of disk brake. Both brakes will be engaged, but rear will be at 60% power and front at 40 when i feel the nose dive, I depress the rear and release the front, and when I feel rear may lock up, I depress the front to slow it down quickly. Well I guess this is the technique that is advised in xbhp also. Well it surely needs some practice and under panic braking such habits should become our reflex. This has saved me and my bike from injuries many a times.

    Also, there is something called as engine braking!
    Last edited by WayofLife; 03-06-2011, 10:05 AM. Reason: Forgot to add engine braking technique which I use under normal conditions other than panic situations

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    • I agree with Bullet500 as the rear drum brake is quite inefficient for GS . But it can also be considered a good move to prevent rear wheel lock-ups under panic braking.

      A combination of front and rear is enough for being idiot-safe on Indian conditions(just as you said WayofLife). I have already done many posts about weight shifting on panic braking and lock-ups(interested can give a PM), bored of the same topic popping every now and then ....

      Happy Biking.....
      Well-trained reflexes are quicker than luck.........

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      • hello everybody today i changed the oil to motul i found it to be very better in performance compared to other oil but i got doubt that whether 1l is sufficient for our bike or not bcos i saw the oil level to be slightly less than f mark at the window

        plzzz clear my doubt waiting desperately for the answer.........
        I can put any Signatures :P

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        • Originally posted by speed deamon View Post
          i got doubt that whether 1l is sufficient for our bike or not bcos i saw the oil level to be slightly less than f mark at the window. plzzz clear my doubt waiting desperately for the answer.

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          • Originally posted by WayofLife View Post
            Sir, with all due respect, I seriously doubt your claim. I have been riding GS for the last 10months and I found the braking to more precise and effective than that of any Bajaj(the rear brakes only, disks are not compared). I have no doubt on your biking experience or your braking skills, but I believe it is the right technique in braking that is necessary to get the best out of any brakes rather than the quality of the brakes themselves.
            You are very correct; I think. My opinion also is the same.

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            • Originally Posted by speed deamon
              i got doubt that whether 1l is sufficient for our bike or not bcos i saw the oil level to be slightly less than f mark at the window. plzzz clear my doubt waiting desperately for the answer.
              The best method is try in the early morning before cold start try the following

              keep the bike in a even surface area ask some one to hold the bike in upright position (yes no center stand) now see the oil level.


              Also note 1 ltr oil is enough so no more oil pouring is required, more over our bikes are still not that old to evaporate oil in short period of time.

              if you have time and curiosity take a look at the oil every 10 days once or every 200 kms
              once
              Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity

              Currently Using Gusto |Enfield Bullet 500 | Ecosport Titanium+ Diesel

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              • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                You are very correct; I think. My opinion also is the same.
                Vishnu even earlier i did said him the same but in a different way
                Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity

                Currently Using Gusto |Enfield Bullet 500 | Ecosport Titanium+ Diesel

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                • Originally posted by MSN1 View Post
                  The best method is try in the early morning before cold start try the following

                  keep the bike in a even surface area ask some one to hold the bike in upright position (yes no center stand) now see the oil level.


                  Also note 1 ltr oil is enough so no more oil pouring is required, more over our bikes are still not that old to evaporate oil in short period of time.

                  if you have time and curiosity take a look at the oil every 10 days once or every 200 kms
                  once

                  dude the level of oil is between f & L and i checked it with center stand and i drained the oil properly so 1l is sufficient for our bike ri8 i got that doubt bcos once service centre guy told to pour 1.1L that's the reason i asked that doubt
                  I can put any Signatures :P

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                  • Originally posted by speed deamon View Post
                    service centre guy told to pour 1.1L that's the reason i asked that doubt
                    1.1 ltr with oil filter change.

                    The amount of engine oil required in various circumstances of changing is well described in the owner's manual.
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                    • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                      1.1 ltr with oil filter change.

                      The amount of engine oil required in various circumstances of changing is well described in the owner's manual.

                      yeah but he said if the oil filter is changed then u need to pour 1200ml i'm bit confused 1.1L without oil filter....
                      I can put any Signatures :P

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                      • Originally posted by speed deamon View Post
                        dude the level of oil is between f & L and i checked it with center stand and i drained the oil properly so 1l is sufficient for our bike ri8 i got that doubt bcos once service centre guy told to pour 1.1L that's the reason i asked that doubt
                        1.1 ltr is required for oil with oil filter change

                        even one of our member reported service center guy recommended him an addictive to add with engine oil on GS150R

                        we can trust service center engineers but not always and not on all times:cool

                        Better to checkout manual for more clarity
                        Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity

                        Currently Using Gusto |Enfield Bullet 500 | Ecosport Titanium+ Diesel

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                        • Originally posted by speed deamon View Post
                          i got doubt that whether 1l is sufficient for our bike or not bcos i saw the oil level to be slightly less than f mark at the window

                          plzzz clear my doubt waiting desperately for the answer.........
                          Originally posted by speed deamon View Post
                          dude the level of oil is between f & L and i checked it with center stand and i drained the oil properly so 1l is sufficient for our bike ri8 i got that doubt bcos once service centre guy told to pour 1.1L that's the reason i asked that doubt
                          Originally posted by speed deamon View Post
                          yeah but he said if the oil filter is changed then u need to pour 1200ml i'm bit confused 1.1L without oil filter....
                          This explanation is because you told that the oil level is near the F mark. If 1 litre of oil is poured after removing the old oil fully, and if the oil filter is replaced, the level cannot reach anywhere near the F mark. It will be at or very slightly above the L mark. If the level is higher than that, the used oil was not removed fully; a portion was left inside the crank case. This is the truth.
                          Here, 1 litre is enough and you can add 100 ml more if you wish. Then the oil level will be at or near (just below) the F mark. Never add more oil as it will affect the engine adversely. More oil will not improve the lubrication.
                          Last edited by vishnukmd; 03-06-2011, 02:57 AM.

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                          • Vishnuji,

                            Is the capacity of our oil tank 1.2L(true) and we have to fill 1L? I believe we had this discussion going on as someone here pointed out that the SC guys filled only 800ml and where cheating the rest 200ml etc etc. I believe we have had an lengthy discussion on it right?

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                            • Originally posted by WayofLife View Post
                              Vishnuji,

                              Is the capacity of our oil tank 1.2L(true) and we have to fill 1L? I believe we had this discussion going on as someone here pointed out that the SC guys filled only 800ml and where cheating the rest 200ml etc etc. I believe we have had an lengthy discussion on it right?
                              Thats one of the old stories and there are many such discussion happened earlier

                              Ours is 1.5 litter oil tank I believe
                              Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity

                              Currently Using Gusto |Enfield Bullet 500 | Ecosport Titanium+ Diesel

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                              • Originally posted by WayofLife View Post
                                Vishnuji,

                                Is the capacity of our oil tank 1.2L(true) and we have to fill 1L? I believe we had this discussion going on as someone here pointed out that the SC guys filled only 800ml and where cheating the rest 200ml etc etc. I believe we have had an lengthy discussion on it right?




                                (In both cases, the crank case was drained as far as possible and oil filter was replaced. The former is with 1 litre of oil and the latter with 1.1 litres).



                                The bike needs 1 litre of oil in the crank case but when we refill, this leftover oil is not taken in to account.

                                Excess oil affects the pickup, engine heat, crank shaft bearing, gaskets, oil seal etc. etc. and will reduce the lubrication and heat transmission. So, filling excess oil in must be avoided.

                                I do not believe that any of the service centres will dare to fill 800 ml of oil and save the balance 200 ml and thus cheat the customer. Now too I believe that the case of Bond 007 was a problem of misunderstanding.

                                My opinion is to fill 1 litre of oil and top up later, if necessary.

                                Let us wait for the comments from others. (As I have mentioned many times earlier, absence of psr in this discussion is a loss).

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