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**Raman Swaminathan** · 01-27-2015, 09:01 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Since this thread is Idle and vibe free (unlike our RTR\'s :P ) , here goes.
Went on my first road trip on the new ABS (1.2k Km,2 month old, first service done).

Started at 7, traveled 53kms (25 odd on highway) to a fort called Bhongir near Hyderabad.
Me and a fellow RTR 180 rider, friend, set off on a school boy adventure. Since he is changing tyres soon and his old ones being punctured, we kept at 65-70 max on the road.
Was a windy, misty day strangely. The bike was very wobbly under heavy winds. But the cooling was amazing on the beast compared to the older one.

Basically the highlight being, I did 0-60 in 4.4 and managed 119 at heavy opposite direction winds. felt really good

The more I use it, the more I am becoming a fan of the TVS SS oil. Smooth shifts, really good cooling too.

**prd8r** · 02-01-2015, 04:33 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

What\'s the difference in electricals between the old beast and new one?

The old one with AC current can be started without a battery by kicking?
Can the new DC current one be started without batt?

**pranav_salieri** · 02-01-2015, 04:40 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by Raman Swaminathan View Post

Since this thread is Idle and vibe free (unlike our RTR\\\\\\\'s :P ) , here goes.
Went on my first road trip on the new ABS (1.2k Km,2 month old, first service done).

Started at 7, traveled 53kms (25 odd on highway) to a fort called Bhongir near Hyderabad.
Me and a fellow RTR 180 rider, friend, set off on a school boy adventure. Since he is changing tyres soon and his old ones being punctured, we kept at 65-70 max on the road.
Was a windy, misty day strangely. The bike was very wobbly under heavy winds. But the cooling was amazing on the beast compared to the older one.

Basically the highlight being, I did 0-60 in 4.4 and managed 119 at heavy opposite direction winds. felt really good

The more I use it, the more I am becoming a fan of the TVS SS oil. Smooth shifts, really good cooling too.

your friend was using the older gen RTR?? please post some pics.

guys I have a problem and need your feedback ASAP.my bike was fine last week until I started hearing some chain noise so took it Triton ASC.First he told me chain lube should be done next he told me sprocket has to changed after 10 min one mechanic told me bore has to be changed because there was no engine oil and there was smoke emanating from the exhaust when the bike was revved to 10K RPM.i myself changed the engine oil at shell and bikes done 2500 kms after oil change at shell. I feel the SVC is trying to cheat me,because the bike performed tip top and I also managed to touch 128 a few weeks back and the bike was vibe free and also no signs of overheating. I have sent a complaint mail to TVS. What could be issue??

**Traveller01** · 02-02-2015, 01:48 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

[MENTION=47846]prd8r[/MENTION] yes the new RTR can be kick started or push started without the battery. Only the ABS version gets full DC set up. [MENTION=25101]pranav_salieri[/MENTION] did you check the oil level? Which shell oil did you use as shell ultra has a tendency to evaporate in air cooled engines like RTR. Check for oily residue on the exhaust tip.

**DurgeshIndukuri** · 02-02-2015, 12:09 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Can any one help how to install HID kit in New 180 RTR Thanks in advance

**pranav_salieri** · 02-02-2015, 01:44 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by Traveller01;1126374 @[URL="http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/"http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/member.php?u=25101\""

pranav_salieri[/URL] did you check the oil level? Which shell oil did you use as shell ultra has a tendency to evaporate in air cooled engines like RTR. Check for oily residue on the exhaust tip.

yes i did there was oil in the stick.might have lost its viscosity but it was there.now the bike is in the ASC so cant check.the oil which i used was SHELL ADVANCE AX7 Semi synthetic oil.the best oil i have poured in till date..very lerss vibes.

**prd8r** · 02-02-2015, 05:16 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by Traveller01 View Post

@prd8r yes the new RTR can be kick started or push started without the battery. Only the ABS version gets full DC set up. @pranav_salieri did you check the oil level? Which shell oil did you use as shell ultra has a tendency to evaporate in air cooled engines like RTR. Check for oily residue on the exhaust tip.

@ Traveller01 - Thanks for the answer. So, going further, the ABS version cannot start without a battery? As in, if the battery is low, one cannot use the electric starter. So, kicking will start it right?
Because old RD350s and Bullets cannot start even with kicker if battery is low.

**sambit** · 02-02-2015, 08:05 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by prd8r View Post

@ Traveller01 - Thanks for the answer. So, going further, the ABS version cannot start without a battery? As in, if the battery is low, one cannot use the electric starter. So, kicking will start it right?
Because old RD350s and Bullets cannot start even with kicker if battery is low.

Didnt Knew that. But my Grandpa's(maternal) Rajdoot still starts within 2-3 Kicks. Its running without a battery since last 4 years.

Actually I find no reason how would battery affect starter.

**Shahryar Khan** · 02-02-2015, 08:46 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Guyzz i changed the oil at 16115 km to motul 5100 10w30 but when my bike reached 17300 my engine started to make noise when i checked the bike with local mech there was less engine oil so.i drain it only 600-700ml came out what is the prob anybody help. There is no leakage
?????????

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**prd8r** · 02-02-2015, 09:09 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by sambit View Post

Didnt Knew that. But my Grandpa's(maternal) Rajdoot still starts within 2-3 Kicks. Its running without a battery since last 4 years.

Actually I find no reason how would battery affect starter.

LOL. Yeah. I can believe that. One of my pal's old RX100 is also running without battery. Thing is, they are AC current bikes I guess

But DC current ones need to have topped up battery or there is no spark I've been told.
Hope someone clears the doubt of DC version Apache.

**sambit** · 02-02-2015, 10:11 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by Shahryar Khan View Post

Guyzz i changed the oil at 16115 km to motul 5100 10w30 but when my bike reached 17300 my engine started to make noise when i checked the bike with local mech there was less engine oil so.i drain it only 600-700ml came out what is the prob anybody help. There is no leakage
?????????

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Faced Similar situation twice. Then realized, its the Duplicate quality Engine Oil. Both the times it was Castrol Power1. I used other brands, things were normal. But in your case, the Grade might be the culprit.
I advice you to switch to recommended grade oil and keep an eye every 1000 Kms or so. If the problem persists, do get engine recarb done.

**Shahryar Khan** · 02-02-2015, 10:38 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

What is the recommended grade for 180 abs????
But now i am using shell ax7 10w40

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**Abishek94** · 02-02-2015, 11:22 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by Shahryar Khan View Post

What is the recommended grade for 180 abs????
But now i am using shell ax7 10w40

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Recommended grade for rtr is W40.. and shell ax7 10w40 is the best oil for rtr according to me.

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Meanwhile, its been an amazing 17 months with my rtr180! Crossed 20k km on the odo during the first half of January 2015:

Long term ownership review coming up at 25k km! currently at 22k on the odo

I spray painted the fuel cap, rear brake lever and the gear shift lever at home during my free time

Now its matte black and looks much better(personal opinion)

**Shahryar Khan** · 02-03-2015, 12:47 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Personal opinion i also think 10w40 is very good the shifting is very smooth n less vibes

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**evyavan** · 02-03-2015, 11:18 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by prd8r View Post

@ Traveller01 - Thanks for the answer. So, going further, the ABS version cannot start without a battery? As in, if the battery is low, one cannot use the electric starter. So, kicking will start it right?
Because old RD350s and Bullets cannot start even with kicker if battery is low.

I own a 180 ABS with DC setup. Ran out of battery once. Engine kicked to life in no time in all those days when I ran without battery.

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