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**shahbaz63** · 09-18-2012, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by vivekgautams View Post

The thing I noticed was ,the bike on stock filter faces a lot of knocking/jerking at idle rpm & the idle rpm is not constant(i.e, continuously fluctuating )..Even the spark plug used to show signs of a rich mixture..
After putting a Crossworth,the idle rpm is stable & spark plug remains clean(ish). The F-A mixture appears to be near perfect & this has reduced the knocking/jerking. But the result is a combination of Aftermarket filters & FS oil..

That was very nice R&D which worked .. will surely try it once.... Can you give me detail of Air filter ?and is there any modification need to install it ?

**vishnu.leo** · 09-18-2012, 12:11 AM

Originally posted by vivekgautams View Post

Hey Guys..
I recently put a Crossworth air filter, now the bike's vibration has reduced drastically or you can say, someone stole the vibrations

..No vibration till 110kmph, the ride between 50-95 sees no vibrations at all..The throttle response is smooth,acceleration is become even more crazy & the roar of the bike pass the 6k rpm range will just put a huge grin..I found a increase of 2-3kmpl fuel efficiency (but too early to confirm).The only problem is chocking past the 8.5-9.5k rpm mark. Overall experience of bike with the cross filter is excellent.I wish the bike comes with better stock filter..After a ride on aftermarket filter feels the RTR had serious cold/cough.

COSWORTH??? as in the real cosworth??? the famous one??? did you had to modify the filterbox in anyway for the new one???

**kantu** · 09-18-2012, 12:24 AM

Originally posted by madhav766 View Post

It seems to be coming from the chain!!! :O I'm shocked! I just took delivery of my baby two days ago! Its a sort of loud CHAK CHAK sound!

Either you are running on Dry Chain(not oiled) or the chain needs to be adjusted for proper tension. Get it checked ar your SVC.

Originally posted by pcgamer View Post

Does the GS150's filter smoothen the engine and reduce the vibrations too? Any sort of upjetting needs to be done? Any change in the exhaust note?

Originally posted by vivekgautams View Post

In general:-The Exhaust note remains unchanged(or very slightly) BUT the intake sound makes the bike louder & combines with the exhaust note..

@pcgamer ^^^ Only intake sound will change not loud as K&N, but still noticeable. I felt that in foam type air filters it was not breathing properly, with paper element it can breathe easily so better throttle response and since its a paper type can clean it easily. And best part is that GS150 filter is a direct fit to RTR. Its better you start doing these experiments after warranty period is over.

Regarding Vibes no it wont help, and I dont know why but when ever i ride on empty tank it vibrates a lot. May be the fuel will help in absorbing vibes to a certain extent. So I always run with more than half tank

**Devraj** · 09-18-2012, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by udai48 View Post

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**vivekgautams** · 09-18-2012, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

That was very nice R&D which worked .. will surely try it once.... Can you give me detail of Air filter ?and is there any modification need to install it ?

The R&D is not yet over,its just begun..

As of now,NO other sub-modifications has been done.
I have to do a few things like;-
1.Putting the filter inside the airbox..(now the filter is directly fixed onto the carb.)
2.Up-jetting of the main jet is required..(trail N error method & will vary from bike to bike & environmental conditions like altitude,humidity etc..)
3.A spark plug with a better heat range or a heat range which will suit the FA mixture correctly..
The details;-Round Tapered Universal Air Filter, Diameter: 3 in (76 mm),Cotton Gauze/sponge..
Try out different types of filters,take a test ride & if you feel the airfilter is working/fitting fine, purchase it..

Originally posted by vishnu.leo View Post

COSWORTH??? as in the real cosworth??? the famous one??? did you had to modify the filterbox in anyway for the new one???

Yup...The original "Crosworth"..(Sorry for the spell error

)
A link for reference:-

Page not found - Cosworth

http://india.cosworth.com/products/performance-parts/air-filters/bike-air-filters-(india)/

Originally posted by kantu View Post

Regarding Vibes no it wont help, and I dont know why but when ever i ride on empty tank it vibrates a lot. May be the fuel will help in absorbing vibes to a certain extent. So I always run with more than half tank

You are very fortunate to always have more than half tank..

& when the bike runs in reserve or less fuel, I've observed vibrations,uneven throttle,etc..That is due to uneven fuel supply..When riding on a full tank, the front end is heavier & well planted,handles better..

**pcgamer** · 09-18-2012, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by vivekgautams View Post

You better ask Kantu for details about the GS150's filter..
In general:-The Exhaust note remains unchanged(or very slightly) BUT the intake sound makes the bike louder & combines with the exhaust note..
Up-jetting is a trial & error method, you may or may not need to do it..

The thing I noticed was ,the bike on stock filter faces a lot of knocking/jerking at idle rpm & the idle rpm is not constant(i.e, continuously fluctuating )..Even the spark plug used to show signs of a rich mixture..
After putting a Crossworth,the idle rpm is stable & spark plug remains clean(ish). The F-A mixture appears to be near perfect & this has reduced the knocking/jerking. But the result is a combination of Aftermarket filters & FS oil..

Originally posted by kantu View Post

@pcgamer ^^^ Only intake sound will change not loud as K&N, but still noticeable. I felt that in foam type air filters it was not breathing properly, with paper element it can breathe easily so better throttle response and since its a paper type can clean it easily. And best part is that GS150 filter is a direct fit to RTR. Its better you start doing these experiments after warranty period is over.

Regarding Vibes no it wont help, and I dont know why but when ever i ride on empty tank it vibrates a lot. May be the fuel will help in absorbing vibes to a certain extent. So I always run with more than half tank

Thanks. I usually run it with about 1-3 litres in tank. The max I've ever filled it is for Rs.600

. Regarding the air filter, I'll try to fit it in a month. My bike is about 12.5 months old. Still about a year of warranty left. But I'll just put the old filter back in case I need to claim the warranty. I haven't done any sort of mod to it yet. So, 'll do it.
BTW, Do I need to buy anything else to fit the GS150R filter or is it a direct fit without any modifications?

P.S Would someone help me in removing the speedo console? Which bolts/screws need to be removed?

**Prithvi R** · 09-18-2012, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by madhav766 View Post

It seems to be coming from the chain!!! :O I'm shocked! I just took delivery of my baby two days ago! Its a sort of loud CHAK CHAK sound!

Yes, it happened on my RTR when I got it washed. Like Kantu pointed out, it is because of not enough of lubrication on the chain. After the wash, I washed my chain with diesel, lubed it and allowed it to settle for around 6-7 hours. The chak chak noise disappeared after that. Get your chain cleaned and lubed once again.

**madhav766** · 09-18-2012, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by pcgamer View Post

I usually run it with about 1-3 litres in tank. The max I've ever filled it is for Rs.600

.

i filled my baby's tank with full holding capacity. By the way, you guys. This is weird. And unbelievable. And unimaginable. I've done about 130kms on my bike. N I haven't lost a single bar of the fuel indicator! :O So basically I'm getting a stupendously amazing mileage of well over 60Kmpl. That too on a new bike. :P Something is wrong with the fuel level sensor right?
@Prithvi thanks man!

Ur another in bangalore!

Where you at?

**shahbaz63** · 09-18-2012, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by madhav766 View Post

i filled my baby's tank with full holding capacity. By the way, you guys. This is weird. And unbelievable. And unimaginable. I've done about 130kms on my bike. N I haven't lost a single bar of the fuel indicator! :O So basically I'm getting a stupendously amazing mileage of well over 60Kmpl. That too on a new bike. :P Something is wrong with the fuel level sensor right?
@Prithvi thanks man!

Ur another in bangalore!

Where you at?

No Dude ... Fuel bar will surprise you soon ... 160 apache may give 60kp/l *Period

**madhav766** · 09-18-2012, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

No Dude ... Fuel bar will surprise you soon ... 160 apache may give 60kp/l *Period

Okay. Now I'm Really worried something is wrong with the fuel indicator. Damit. 160kms done. No change in the fuel indicator.

**Prithvi R** · 09-18-2012, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by madhav766 View Post

i filled my baby's tank with full holding capacity. By the way, you guys. This is weird. And unbelievable. And unimaginable. I've done about 130kms on my bike. N I haven't lost a single bar of the fuel indicator! :O So basically I'm getting a stupendously amazing mileage of well over 60Kmpl. That too on a new bike. :P Something is wrong with the fuel level sensor right?
@Prithvi thanks man!

Ur another in bangalore!

Where you at?

I stay in RPC Layout, Vijaynagar.

And about the fuel indicators, I fill up my tank completely once in 20-25 days. The indicator bars starts to go down only after 150 Kilometers. And also keep in mind that it won't show the exact reading all the time. The reading varies from time to time. But i can manage around 410 - 425 Kilometers until the reserve indicator lights up. BTW, where do you stay mate?

Offtopic - @madahav766, Are you a metalhead? Lamb Of God fan?

**vishnu.leo** · 09-18-2012, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by vivekgautams View Post

Yup...The original "Crosworth"..(Sorry for the spell error

)
A link for reference:-

Page not found - Cosworth

http://india.cosworth.com/products/performance-parts/air-filters/bike-air-filters-(india)/

aww...so did you get the famous cosworth badge along with the filter??? :P would love to show that off once i get the filter on mine(sometime later)

did the 2nd service today. with no oil change.
first thing i noticed was the bikes now smoother than ever. even the gear shifts almost at par with the yamahas.

finally got the rear mud flap on. cost 88 bucks