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  • Originally posted by susheelkumar View Post
    Are you sure RTR 160 can be revved till 11-11.5k?
    If yes on which gear?
    I have tried this many a times in my hyperedge & the rev limitter kicks in at 5th gear & I couldn't pass 9k rpm, while in other gears it went till 10.5k rpm (maybe it can go more but not sure haven't tried that as I shifted the gear to 5th at that point).
    At what rpm in RTR 160 will the rev limitter kick in?
    I have heared this from many experts including "JOEL", RTR engine is the only one in India which can be Rev till 12k RPM....
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    • Originally posted by susheelkumar View Post
      Are you sure RTR 160 can be revved till 11-11.5k?
      If yes on which gear?
      I have tried this many a times in my hyperedge & the rev limitter kicks in at 5th gear & I couldn't pass 9k rpm, while in other gears it went till 10.5k rpm (maybe it can go more but not sure haven't tried that as I shifted the gear to 5th at that point).
      At what rpm in RTR 160 will the rev limitter kick in?
      As far as I remember the RTR doesn't have a rev limiter. I think your engine maxed out at 9k Rpm in 5th. I went upto 11.5k in 4th gear.

      Originally posted by kantu View Post
      I think some more things are missed out here.
      First you need to disconnect the Fuel line (the one near petcock) then take out the bolt underneath the seat.
      If you push the tank back towards the tail lights and lift it from the front you can see two wires beneath the tank. The big black one is a water hose pipe i think no harm in pulling it open other is an electrical wire can be disconnected easily. Now good to remove the tank. it helps if yo u are low on fuel.
      Originally posted by rio.acharya View Post
      yes i removed the tank and then there are just two screws to remove the TPS.

      removing the tank is easy there is only one bolt holding it which u can see when u remove the seat. after removing the bolt just hold the tank from front and from the back and slide it outwards towards the rear of the bike.
      Thanks to both of you. My tank is half full I'll try it out after it is empty.
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      • Originally posted by chin2_RE View Post
        dude!!!! nice slip-on you have there what is it called is it MEGAFONE ??? is it one piece i mean the whole exhaust the slip-on and the manifold ??? how much for this ??? and yeah kindly reply to my earlier post please i wanna know that part on my bike
        Thats Joels exhaust and i have his 190 cc big bore.
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        • Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
          wow .. what are the modification u did? i can see exhaust change what else ? & how about performance ?
          Performance is good.... have done 0-60 in 3.3 seconds using the inbuilt timer. Guess 100 also reaches in about 10 seconds.
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          • Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post
            MEGAFONE are you kidding me!!! Thats Joel's exhaust

            @vivekpetrohead : I can see that you are trying to reduce the weight of the bike but what went wrong with that half-cut visor!!!
            Half cut visor is something i did ..as i like it that way. Thinking of removing the headlight assembly and just make it simple with some projector or something.
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            • Originally posted by PsychoRider View Post
              As far as I remember the RTR doesn't have a rev limiter. I think your engine maxed out at 9k Rpm in 5th. I went upto 11.5k in 4th gear.
              What do you mean by maxed out?
              Is it a problem of engine which I have to seriously look into? Its just 15k in odo.
              Well so far I have got only 126km/hr as my top speed.
              Or maybe I should shift the gear to 5th only after ripping to max (11.5k as u mentioned) in 4th gear.
              Or do I have to make it run rich to attain this. Because as of now its set to default/optimum by the SVC.
              Also I have read somewhere that RTR does have a rev limitter & its based on flywheel.
              The other news I have read is RTR 180 doesn't have while RTR 160 has rev limitter.
              Also AFAIK rev limitters are there for all bikes (don't know about sports bike, I'm talking about normal bikes for public) as it is required for the longevity of the engine life. I have heard the SVC guys saying the same stuff that RTR has rev limitters.
              I dont know which is fact & which is fiction.
              Could anyone give me a little better insight into this with some official company documented proof or something from trusted source as it will be really helpful.
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              • Originally posted by susheelkumar View Post
                What do you mean by maxed out?
                Is it a problem of engine which I have to seriously look into? Its just 15k in odo.
                Well so far I have got only 126km/hr as my top speed.
                Or maybe I should shift the gear to 5th only after ripping to max (11.5k as u mentioned) in 4th gear.
                Or do I have to make it run rich to attain this. Because as of now its set to default/optimum by the SVC.
                Also I have read somewhere that RTR does have a rev limitter & its based on flywheel.
                The other news I have read is RTR 180 doesn't have while RTR 160 has rev limitter.
                Also AFAIK rev limitters are there for all bikes (don't know about sports bike, I'm talking about normal bikes for public) as it is required for the longevity of the engine life. I have heard the SVC guys saying the same stuff that RTR has rev limitters.
                I dont know which is fact & which is fiction.
                Could anyone give me a little better insight into this with some official company documented proof or something from trusted source as it will be really helpful.
                Engine being maxed out means the point where your engine simply cannot provide anymore power against the wind and rolling resistance. It defines the limit of the engine. It is perfectly normal don't worry.

                Here are some links providing reviews for the RTR which say that it doesn't have a rev limiter.
                max throttle: APACHE RTR 160 REVIEW
                http://**********.in/apache-rtr-160-yamaha-fz-16/
                TVS Apache RTR 180 Test Drive - Motorcycles - Zimbio
                Apache RTR: TVS Apache RTR 160 Hyperedge Ownership Review by Sumon

                You are right that rev limiters are required, but when the RTR was introduced TVS intended to come out with performance parts for the RTR so they didn't include a rev limiter.
                Last edited by PsychoRider; 07-09-2012, 03:50 PM.
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                • Why its necessary to have REV limiter ? :O
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                  • Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
                    Why its necessary to have REV limiter ? :O
                    Rev limiters are provided to cut the power from the engine when it reaches high RPMs as operating the engine at high RPMs causes damage to internal parts.
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                    • Originally posted by PsychoRider View Post
                      Rev limiters are provided to cut the power from the engine when it reaches high RPMs as operating the engine at high RPMs causes damage to internal parts.
                      I know & I Agreed, I am talking about our context, where this guy want REV Limiter....

                      If you know your Bike & its limitation then i dont find it any reason to burn your engine ...its advantage of not having Limiter in RTR i feel

                      Correct me if i am wrong ..
                      Pride & Prejudice: Ladakh Ride,

                      Ride To Raajmachi - Highway, Off Roading, Tent fire & Dhamaal

                      Madness in Rajasthan - Travelogue
                      www.facebook.com/shahbaz008

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                      • Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
                        I know & I Agreed, I am talking about our context, where this guy want REV Limiter....

                        If you know your Bike & its limitation then i dont find it any reason to burn your engine ...its advantage of not having Limiter in RTR i feel

                        Correct me if i am wrong ..
                        OH! Right. Sorry I thougt you were asking me.
                        I completely agree with you. One of the many advantages of the RTR. It has two characters, when riding sanely we can shift it at 5k RPM. When we want to unleash its power we can rip upto 11k.
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                        • anybody Teflon Coating (Waxing) brand/Company ?? with Price if possible
                          Pride & Prejudice: Ladakh Ride,

                          Ride To Raajmachi - Highway, Off Roading, Tent fire & Dhamaal

                          Madness in Rajasthan - Travelogue
                          www.facebook.com/shahbaz008

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                          • Originally posted by PsychoRider View Post
                            Engine being maxed out means the point where your engine simply cannot provide anymore power against the wind and rolling resistance. It defines the limit of the engine. It is perfectly normal don't worry.

                            Here are some links providing reviews for the RTR which say that it doesn't have a rev limiter.
                            max throttle: APACHE RTR 160 REVIEW
                            http://**********.in/apache-rtr-160-yamaha-fz-16/
                            TVS Apache RTR 180 Test Drive - Motorcycles - Zimbio
                            Apache RTR: TVS Apache RTR 160 Hyperedge Ownership Review by Sumon

                            You are right that rev limiters are required, but when the RTR was introduced TVS intended to come out with performance parts for the RTR so they didn't include a rev limiter.
                            Thanks for the links yaar. I also searched out & every blog its written that there are no rev limitters for RTR hyperedge. Previously I had read somewhere in xbhp say an year back that rev limitters are there for 160 & not 180. That's why I thought of querying it out here, if anyone knows the value. Also thanks for explaining the engine getting maxed out stuff. There was heavy winds & I had an heavy bag too along with me when I was traveling & maybe that might be the issue.

                            Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
                            I know & I Agreed, I am talking about our context, where this guy want REV Limiter....

                            If you know your Bike & its limitation then i dont find it any reason to burn your engine ...its advantage of not having Limiter in RTR i feel

                            Correct me if i am wrong ..
                            I feel there is nothing wrong in querying out our doubts here...right?? I don't agree with the fact that Rev limiters are not at all required, though I stay with your point that if we know the limitation of the bike we don't require to know it..But to know the limitation yourself you should push it to the extreme end & sometimes that extreme end might do damage to your bike engine which is where this rev limiters can turn out to be helpful...This is something that caught my eyes last time during the trip. I couldn't pass 9k in 5th gear no matter whatever I do. So that's why I got confused..

                            Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
                            anybody Teflon Coating (Waxing) brand/Company ?? with Price if possible
                            I got it done for my bike for around 500/- some year back.
                            Brand name is DuPont. Check the below link for more details.
                            http://**********.in/teflon-coating-bike-guide/
                            Last edited by susheelkumar; 07-09-2012, 08:06 PM.
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                            • Originally posted by susheelkumar View Post
                              Thanks for the links yaar. I also searched out & every blog its written that there are no rev limitters for RTR hyperedge. Previously I had read somewhere in xbhp say an year back that rev limitters are there for 160 & not 180. That's why I thought of querying it out here, if anyone knows the value. Also thanks for explaining the engine getting maxed out stuff. There was heavy winds & I had an heavy bag too along with me when I was traveling & maybe that might be the issue.




                              I got it done for my bike for around 500/- some year back.
                              Brand name is DuPont. Check the below link for more details.
                              http://**********.in/teflon-coating-bike-guide/
                              Always happy to help man.

                              Why is teflon coating needed? I've always heard it at car showrooms. But i never figured out what it is used for. Does it save your paint from getting scratched or is it just a polish to bring shine to the paint?
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                              • Originally posted by PsychoRider View Post
                                Always happy to help man.

                                Why is teflon coating needed? I've always heard it at car showrooms. But i never figured out what it is used for. Does it save your paint from getting scratched or is it just a polish to bring shine to the paint?
                                It can prevent small sort of scratches but not the deep ones.
                                It acts as an extra protective layer on the paint.
                                Its worth doing especially if your bike is black color.
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