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**sanjaynk15** · 04-19-2015, 11:01 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by John P Daniel View Post

If you choose halogen, get bulbs without the blue coating on the glass. Bulbs with clear glass are the best for illumination and is best for rain/foggy situations. Colour temperature ratings of 4300k is best.

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Okay i will go for clearvision then! Thanks a lot!

**vivekgautams** · 04-20-2015, 10:30 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by sanjaynk15 View Post

Guys i'm thinking of replacing the halogen headlamp bulb with white light bulb. Any suggestions? How is PHILIPS BlueVision Moto? Anyone using it?

White light(5500k and above) is absolutely useless for fog and rain. Stick to a bulb which is less than 5000k. A 60/55w is useless, slightly better than a 35w but hopeless against truck's high beam .
I'm running a Philips Rally 130/100 (with a relay and full wiring harness). No issue running a high wattage bulb as long as it is in high or low beam(some times it tends to use 230W thanks to TVS switch).
The best setup would be a 85/80 or even 100/90 with a relay and wiring harness. The bulbs I would recommend, Hella Rallye 100/90, Philips Rally 100/90 and Osram All season 85/80.

**sanjaynk15** · 04-20-2015, 11:04 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by vivekgautams View Post

White light(5500k and above) is absolutely useless for fog and rain. Stick to a bulb which is less than 5000k. A 60/55w is useless, slightly better than a 35w but hopeless against truck's high beam .
I'm running a Philips Rally 130/100 (with a relay and full wiring harness). No issue running a high wattage bulb as long as it is in high or low beam(some times it tends to use 230W thanks to TVS switch).
The best setup would be a 85/80 or even 100/90 with a relay and wiring harness. The bulbs I would recommend, Hella Rallye 100/90, Philips Rally 100/90 and Osram All season 85/80.

Thanks a lot buddy!
I'll search for the ones you recommended then!
But then would philips crystal vision be a good choice? Its 35W and the light temperature 4300k.

**vivekgautams** · 04-20-2015, 11:55 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by sanjaynk15 View Post

Thanks a lot buddy!
I'll search for the ones you recommended then!
But then would philips crystal vision be a good choice? Its 35W and the light temperature 4300k.

If you ride only in city limits the 35W gloworm in a jam jar is fine regardless of the K. Once the street lights vanish, you won't be able to do 60-70 kmph also, confidently.
If you do a lot of highway riding at night, upgrade to a 60/55 at least..
One more option would be to get a Bi-xenon HID 35/35 and deal with a few other glitches of its own. You can check out my ex-35w 3000k HID against a 60/55 (post No. 4738) :- www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/4803-let-there-light-bike-lighting-hid-etc-474.html
Another option would be, get a LED of 20-35W 6000k and stick on a fog lamp yellow filter on the headlight(may be completely or partially) so as to make the 6000k into a 3000k. I'm not sure if LED H4 have dipped and high beams.

**sanjaynk15** · 04-20-2015, 12:16 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by vivekgautams View Post

If you ride only in city limits the 35W gloworm in a jam jar is fine regardless of the K. Once the street lights vanish, you won't be able to do 60-70 kmph also, confidently.
If you do a lot of highway riding at night, upgrade to a 60/55 at least..
One more option would be to get a Bi-xenon HID 35/35 and deal with a few other glitches of its own. You can check out my ex-35w 3000k HID against a 60/55 (post No. 4738) :- www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/4803-let-there-light-bike-lighting-hid-etc-474.html
Another option would be, get a LED of 20-35W 6000k and stick on a fog lamp yellow filter on the headlight(may be completely or partially) so as to make the 6000k into a 3000k. I'm not sure if LED H4 have dipped and high beams.

HID would be a direct fit without mods? Mine is not the ABS variant so it doesn't hav DC

I got your post finally

**kdevdatta** · 04-20-2015, 12:43 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

I have a 6500km old Apache RTR 160. Got the 7th servicing done recently. The mechanic said that I should replace the chain set on next servicing.

As my bike is not that old, is it really possible that the chain set get damaged this early?

He also replaced the air filter and spark plug this time. He said that it should be replaced on 7th service.

After I came home, I checked the manual and it says that spark plug should replaced every 15000km. It is mentioned in the service schedule to inspect and replace it on 6th service/12000-15000km. So was it actually necessary to replace it since its only been 6500kms on odo or spark plugs also need replacement with time just like engine oil?

**sanjaynk15** · 04-20-2015, 08:28 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Changed front tyre to REMORA!

Braking performance has improved drastically!

**srinath2494** · 04-20-2015, 08:30 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by sanjaynk15 View Post

Changed front tyre to REMORA!

Braking performance has improved drastically!

only one question. WHY?

**sanjaynk15** · 04-20-2015, 09:00 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by srinath2494 View Post

only one question. WHY?

Got some good feedback from friends buddy.. And i was told that michelin pilot sporty didn't have much wet grip..
Couldn't source fy1 too

I was not left with many options.. By the way you were about to change your tyres if i'm not wrong? Which one did u decide upon?

**prateek2210** · 04-20-2015, 10:54 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by sanjaynk15 View Post

Got some good feedback from friends buddy.. And i was told that michelin pilot sporty didn't have much wet grip..

Is your friend's buddy riding your bike?? Michelins are far better than remora.

**sanjaynk15** · 04-20-2015, 11:06 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

Is your friend's buddy riding your bike?? Michelins are far better than remora.

I'm sorry my bad!
I read that Remora is developed in collaboration with michelin so i thought it would be a better choice..
I meant i received good feedback about remora from my frnds who ride rtr.
Michelins are better i agree!

**Mr_Many_Places** · 04-20-2015, 11:17 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by sanjaynk15 View Post

I'm sorry my bad!
I read that Remora is developed in collaboration with michelin so i thought it would be a better choice..
I meant i received good feedback about remora from my frnds who ride rtr.
Michelins are better i agree!

I feel remora is good. Better than crappy srichakras. But not good as michelins. But no tire squels though.

**Mr_Many_Places** · 04-20-2015, 11:26 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by kdevdatta View Post

I have a 6500km old Apache RTR 160. Got the 7th servicing done recently. The mechanic said that I should replace the chain set on next servicing.

As my bike is not that old, is it really possible that the chain set get damaged this early?

He also replaced the air filter and spark plug this time. He said that it should be replaced on 7th service.

After I came home, I checked the manual and it says that spark plug should replaced every 15000km. It is mentioned in the service schedule to inspect and replace it on 6th service/12000-15000km. So was it actually necessary to replace it since its only been 6500kms on odo or spark plugs also need replacement with time just like engine oil?

I suppose you do not need to change the spark plug at 6000odd kms. And that chain stuff its not neccesary to get the set changed so early. Usually the are replaced at around 25000+ kms. Get ur chain checked by your local mechanic. I dont think its damaged. How old is your bike ?

**kdevdatta** · 04-20-2015, 11:44 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by Mr_Many_Places View Post

I suppose you do not need to change the spark plug at 6000odd kms. And that chain stuff its not neccesary to get the set changed so early. Usually the are replaced at around 25000+ kms. Get ur chain checked by your local mechanic. I dont think its damaged. How old is your bike ?

Thanks for your reply. My bike is 1.5yrs old.

**srinath2494** · 04-20-2015, 11:50 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by sanjaynk15 View Post

Got some good feedback from friends buddy.. And i was told that michelin pilot sporty didn't have much wet grip..
Couldn't source fy1 too

I was not left with many options.. By the way you were about to change your tyres if i'm not wrong? Which one did u decide upon?

you should have waited for BETTER feedback. Never mind, don't try to push the bike to its limits with this one. I am planning to change the tyres after all my free services get over just to avail them and also to avail warranty till that period. Although I have shortlisted a few, I will go on for serious hunting only then. Till then, I will commute with remora. Trust me, ABS prevents skidding of the front wheel when I brake hard on sandy surfaces in slow moving traffic. And also prevents skidding and hitting the vehicle before :P But this will last long and has lesser affinity to punctures.

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