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  • #3406
    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Or Mr. Sibun, can I ride it till the engine blows off? I think, the rings and piston has some more juice left.
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    • #3407
      Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

      Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View Post
      Or Mr. Sibun, can I ride it till the engine blows off? I think, the rings and piston has some more juice left.
      Poor pick up/economy could also be due to worn out clutch plates. When was the last time the clutch pates were replaced ?
      Also as someone mentioned, get a compression test done if possible.

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      Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View Post
      Or Mr. Sibun, can I ride it till the engine blows off? I think, the rings and piston has some more juice left.
      Poor pick up/economy could also be due to worn out clutch plates. When was the last time the clutch pates were replaced ?
      Also as someone mentioned, get a compression test done if possible.

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      • #3408
        Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

        Originally posted by s1d View Post
        Poor pick up/economy could also be due to worn out clutch plates. When was the last time the clutch pates were replaced ?
        Also as someone mentioned, get a compression test done if possible.
        The clutch plates has never been changed/replaced. It is the one which came when we bought the vehicle and not even touched it.
        What are the symptoms of worn out clutch plates?
        Last edited by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy; 02-05-2015, 06:03 PM. Reason: Grammatical Error.
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        • #3409
          Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

          Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View Post
          The clutch plates has never been changed/replaced. It is the one which came when we bought the vehicle and not even touched it.
          What are the symptoms of worn out clutch plates?
          Kick would slip, lower acceleration and top end, Higher rpm but lower speed. Diagnosis is gear-rpm-speed matching but since tacho isn't there we observe by kick slip or lower acceleration

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          • #3410
            Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

            Originally posted by RohIIT View Post
            Kick would slip, lower acceleration and top end, Higher rpm but lower speed. Diagnosis is gear-rpm-speed matching but since tacho isn't there we observe by kick slip or lower acceleration

            Sent from my C1904 using Tapatalk
            All symptoms/problems are there!!!
            So, what are all the things to change/replace/modify/tinker/anyother to rectify all the problems?
            For higher rpm but low speed, see, if i am riding at 30 kmph in 4th gear, leave the throttle and then give it a sudden high throttle, the bike will raise to higher RPM (say 5000) but still at 30 kmph!
            For Kick Slippage, if I try to start, the kicker will go limp(as when you hold the clutch and kick, but somewhat harder) at least for 2 times and then it will crank.

            A new problem: If you push the bike in neutral, the bike will move freely but if you slot in the first gear and then pull the clutch and push, it is difficult and it is harder to move. What is the problem?
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            • #3411
              Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

              Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View Post
              All symptoms/problems are there!!!
              So, what are all the things to change/replace/modify/tinker/anyother to rectify all the problems?
              For higher rpm but low speed, see, if i am riding at 30 kmph in 4th gear, leave the throttle and then give it a sudden high throttle, the bike will raise to higher RPM (say 5000) but still at 30 kmph!
              For Kick Slippage, if I try to start, the kicker will go limp(as when you hold the clutch and kick, but somewhat harder) at least for 2 times and then it will crank.

              A new problem: If you push the bike in neutral, the bike will move freely but if you slot in the first gear and then pull the clutch and push, it is difficult and it is harder to move. What is the problem?
              All indicates to worn out clutch plates.

              Change them and fit only OE.

              But let me tell you that the original that came with your bike is fiber plates and so lasted long. The fiber plates were stopped in 2004, and the last known cost was Rs. 680.

              Now the cork based plates are coming which cost Rs. 360. Will not last as long but still will run for 30-40k before needing replacement.

              Change the plates. My Joy had also come with those plates but had to be changed at 80k. This was because from new till 35k kms the bike was thoroughly abused by my idiots cousin brothers.

              Other wise they would have also lasted a minimum of 1.25-1.3 lacs kilometers.
              Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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              • #3412
                Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                Originally posted by sibun View Post
                All indicates to worn out clutch plates.

                Change them and fit only OE.

                But let me tell you that the original that came with your bike is fiber plates and so lasted long. The fiber plates were stopped in 2004, and the last known cost was Rs. 680.

                Now the cork based plates are coming which cost Rs. 360. Will not last as long but still will run for 30-40k before needing replacement.

                Change the plates. My Joy had also come with those plates but had to be changed at 80k. This was because from new till 35k kms the bike was thoroughly abused by my idiots cousin brothers.

                Other wise they would have also lasted a minimum of 1.25-1.3 lacs kilometers.
                Is there any way to source those fiber plates? Any unsold items? Am I fortunate enough to get those?

                So, what is the next report of your Joy? 8Lac Km Ownership Report???
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                • #3413
                  Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                  Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View Post
                  Is there any way to source those fiber plates? Any unsold items? Am I fortunate enough to get those?

                  So, what is the next report of your Joy? 8Lac Km Ownership Report???
                  No the fibre plates cannot be sourced from anywhere. If they could be sourced then do you not think that i would have sourced it. But the present plates are quite good.

                  My next report of Joy is at 4 lacs. If you all have such wish then 8 lacs kilometers is not far.
                  Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                  • #3414
                    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                    Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View Post
                    Is there any way to source those fiber plates? Any unsold items? Am I fortunate enough to get those?
                    Just have the clutch plates (both the friction and metal/pressure plates) replaced with whatever is available as oem now.
                    Then have the valve clearances adjusted to the correct specs.
                    Finally if possible get a compression test done.

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                    • #3415
                      Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                      I am a newbie when it comes to the parts and its functions of engine.
                      What I know is, petrol comes from tank, goes to carburetor, controls flow of intake, intake vale opens, fuel and air goes inside, compression stroke happens, the spark plug burns up the fuel which gets its power from CDI and the CDI which gets from the magneto coil(I am not sure), exhaust valve opens, gases go out through exhaust and one combustion finished.
                      What is valve clearance, compression test? How does clutch plates work?
                      Thank you!
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                      • #3416
                        Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                        Originally posted by sibun View Post
                        All indicates to worn out clutch plates.

                        Change them and fit only OE.

                        But let me tell you that the original that came with your bike is fiber plates and so lasted long. The fiber plates were stopped in 2004, and the last known cost was Rs. 680.

                        Now the cork based plates are coming which cost Rs. 360. Will not last as long but still will run for 30-40k before needing replacement.

                        Change the plates. My Joy had also come with those plates but had to be changed at 80k. This was because from new till 35k kms the bike was thoroughly abused by my idiots cousin brothers.

                        Other wise they would have also lasted a minimum of 1.25-1.3 lacs kilometers.
                        My dad recently got the clutch plates of our Splendor changed and he told OE was used which costed only around 350.
                        I remember replacing it 10 years back with Bosch ones, and the cost was around 500! May be the Bosch ones were fiber plates (It lasted a good 70k kms).

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                        • #3417
                          Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                          Just now, repainted engine (crankcase, bore, head) , frame, silencer (silencer and the guard near cylinder) , gear lever, brake lever (rear), front visor, Swing arm(both sides), foot rest holders, foot rests(not the rubber, only painted the iron rod inside), Kick lever.
                          Colour is MATTE BLACK

                          This is the colour:
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                          Will post more pics ASAP!

                          EDIT:
                          It looks stunning!

                          EDIT 2:
                          After a short ride, the silencer got hot and there happened chipping of paint, the nearest part to the cylinder of the silencer.
                          Last edited by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy; 02-06-2015, 09:27 PM.
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                          • #3418
                            Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                            Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View Post
                            !

                            EDIT 2:
                            After a short ride, the silencer got hot and there happened chipping of paint, the nearest part to the cylinder of the silencer.
                            sigpic

                             Who needs a stereo when you've got a throttle ? :p

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                            • #3419
                              Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                              So, enquired for 'Splendor Clutch Plates' in my regular spare parts shop and he said it costs Rs. 150! I was like
                              As you guys said about Rs. 350, How and when the price came down to Rs. 150?
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                              • #3420
                                Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

                                Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View Post
                                So, enquired for 'Splendor Clutch Plates' in my regular spare parts shop and he said it costs Rs. 150! I was like
                                As you guys said about Rs. 350, How and when the price came down to Rs. 150?
                                OE plates cost 335/- last time i bought in april 2014. It cannot get that low, or it might be fake
                                Carb Tuning made easy (Thanks Sibun !)

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