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**veryhiphop** · 11-19-2012, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by Above_All View Post

Seems something wrong which the guys not able to find & solve . Give update when they work on it .

Great , i thought i might be the first to get it

Is part number same as i given ?
Post pics once sticked . Are you planning clear coat on it to stick better ?

These SVC are of no use...not able to resolve a major problem...i can't understand when HM provides training to them to handle a Fi bike...what do they learn?...really frustrating....

They even don't know what is an ECU...when i take bike for delivery...they are saying EPS instead of ECU...and they don't know what it does...

Yes the Part no you have given me is same...check the images i post....

not sure on clear coat...check the sticker when you view it...it has thickness...so may not require a costing...

Also, had received your PM and mail...will send the message to seller...actually due festivals not able to check mails properly...

**Above_All** · 11-19-2012, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by Mzee_Maverik View Post

i want the white one asap

but i dont think ill be getting it here anytime soon

Order them at ASC Spare Shop , just change "ZAS" to "ZBS" (i.e. last three alphabets) of part number as you see in image posted by veryhiphop .

Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post

These SVC are of no use...not able to resolve a major problem...i can't understand when HM provides training to them to handle a Fi bike...what do they learn?...really frustrating....

They even don't know what is an ECU...when i take bike for delivery...they are saying EPS instead of ECU...and they don't know what it does...

Yes the Part no you have given me is same...check the images i post....

not sure on clear coat...check the sticker when you view it...it has thickness...so may not require a costing...

Also, had received your PM and mail...will send the message to seller...actually due festivals not able to check mails properly...

Seen 2 cleaning diagrams for ZMR in wiring diagram album at ASC here , don't remember exactly of which part they are , but i guess 1 is about injector cleaning . Will try to snap it on next visit . Maybe that would be something helpful . As these guys get training but forget it fast

I have seen the Tank Strips on ZMR at SVC all 4 colors bike available at that time . They are thick , even the sells guy told they will reduce heat . Check if you feel that or not ?
Clear coat is just to ensure it will stick well . Give me update about seller when you get any .

**antan_shank** · 11-19-2012, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by padfootmoony2006 View Post

Guys finally made up my mind regarding new tyres....id be going for Michelin M62 front and MRF zapper q rear....!!!I dont opt for PSD as its a little heavier and would effect my pick up and top speed....:-(

Are you using these tyres as tubeless or tube type?? As far as I know both are tube type...

**Mzee_Maverik** · 11-19-2012, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by Above_All View Post

Order them at ASC Spare Shop , just change "ZAS" to "ZBS" (i.e. last three alphabets) of part number as you see in image posted by veryhiphop .

Seen 2 cleaning diagrams for ZMR in wiring diagram album at ASC here , don't remember exactly of which part they are , but i guess 1 is about injector cleaning . Will try to snap it on next visit . Maybe that would be something helpful . As these guys get training but forget it fast

I have seen the Tank Strips on ZMR at SVC all 4 colors bike available at that time . They are thick , even the sells guy told they will reduce heat . Check if you feel that or not ?
Clear coat is just to ensure it will stick well . Give me update about seller when you get any .

actually im a little skeptical about those tank pads...
will they create problem for sticking my cramster tank bag to the tank???

cleaning the fuel injector is an easy task. every one can do it and the good part is you dont need any special tool for that

**veryhiphop** · 11-20-2012, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by antan_shank View Post

Are you using these tyres as tubeless or tube type?? As far as I know both are tube type...

Zapper Q is Tubeless tyre..

Originally posted by Mzee_Maverik View Post

actually im a little skeptical about those tank pads...
will they create problem for sticking my cramster tank bag to the tank???

cleaning the fuel injector is an easy task. every one can do it and the good part is you dont need any special tool for that

I Don't think tank bag will have problem with the tank side strip...you can check the new zmr for your doubt

How to clean a fuel injector?

**Divya Sharan** · 11-20-2012, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by vickyraj82 View Post

thanks for u reply

i forgot to mention my riding style i used to ride daily in city where 40 % of traffic is there for 60kms of my route and i use mostly the rear disk like 60 % and 40 %(<40) front disk as someone told that using front disk more may leads to accidents and it is used only to slow down the bike don't know if its correct and i dont overspeed my bike

went to hh service center yesterday and they checked the rear caliper and the mechanic told that pads is worn out one side because of the disk plate scratches and need to change both of them and there is no other problem that causes repeated pads worn out.

it good to see your still on stock rear pads and changed front pads @15k kms

, can i know your riding style and tips so that i can avoid this worn out prblme

.

brake pistons checked.//
is brake pistons and caliper the same ?
Bleed the brakes every time you change pads//
what is meant by bleed the brakes ?

Please use the front brake MORE than the rear. I follow a 70:30 (front:rear) ratio. In rainy season, its more like 60:40, but we must always use the front more than the rear.
Ask yourself, the front has got a 276mm disc for some reason, right? The rear's a puny 230mm disc.
Use the rear only to control the bike, ie; say if you're braking from 60 to 0, use the front brake to slow down from 60 to around 30ish and then apply both brakes to stop.

Please go through - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/art-safe...0-braking.html thread.

Bleeding in layman terms means replacing the brake fluid.

Originally posted by antan_shank View Post

Are you using these tyres as tubeless or tube type?? As far as I know both are tube type...

Satyajit da used M62 as TL, no idea about MRF.

**padfootmoony2006** · 11-20-2012, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by antan_shank View Post

Are you using these tyres as tubeless or tube type?? As far as I know both are tube type...

Il be using them as tubeless....The zapper Q comes in both tubeless and tubetype...but the tube less is a little rare to get....!! if i dont fine the TL...il get the tyres fitted by using a tuff up....Its a tube kinda thing which has a gel in it...called slime...and which makes your tube type tyre a tube less one...!! There have been senior member on the ZMR thread who have been using their M45 for over 5 years as TL with the help of Tuff Ups....and the Tuff ups are easy to get in Mumbai atleast...!!!

Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post

Zapper Q is Tubeless tyre..

How to clean a fuel injector?

Here is how i clean the fuel injector brother....very easy...but beware..!!! Orelse come down to Mumbai from delhi..il do it for you!!
Check this link:

Hero Honda Karizma ZMR - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcycle-ownership-experiences/10257-hero-honda-karizma-zmr-679.html#post884992

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**Praj zm** · 11-20-2012, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Please use the front brake MORE than the rear. I follow a 70:30 (front:rear) ratio. In rainy season, its more like 60:40, but we must always use the front more than the rear.
Ask yourself, the front has got a 276mm disc for some reason, right? The rear's a puny 230mm disc.
Use the rear only to control the bike, ie; say if you're braking from 60 to 0, use the front brake to slow down from 60 to around 30ish and then apply both brakes to stop.

i was wrong about braking all this time but everyone insists on not applying only the front brakes
besides which svc do you give your bike for service dude

Originally posted by padfootmoony2006 View Post

Il be using them as tubeless....The zapper Q comes in both tubeless and tubetype...but the tube less is a little rare to get....!! if i dont fine the TL...il get the tyres fitted by using a tuff up....Its a tube kinda thing which has a gel in it...called slime...and which makes your tube type tyre a tube less one...!! There have been senior member on the ZMR thread who have been using their M45 for over 5 years as TL with the help of Tuff Ups....and the Tuff ups are easy to get in Mumbai atleast...!!!

dude, you are changing because your stock tires are not good anymore or for good grip
give a ride review soon

**psr** · 11-20-2012, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post

These SVC are of no use...not able to resolve a major problem...i can't understand when HM provides training to them to handle a Fi bike...what do they learn?...really frustrating....

They even don't know what is an ECU...when i take bike for delivery...they are saying EPS instead of ECU...and they don't know what it does...

It is indeed painful to see you struggling to get your bike fixed properly at SVC..Do get the Rocker arm, cam and timing chain tensioner checked.....I had seen a few ZMA/ZMR having problem of wear in this area...I am presuming that there is no problem with either the injector of Fuel Pump...

**veryhiphop** · 11-20-2012, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by padfootmoony2006 View Post

Il be using them as tubeless....The zapper Q comes in both tubeless and tubetype...but the tube less is a little rare to get....!! if i dont fine the TL...il get the tyres fitted by using a tuff up....Its a tube kinda thing which has a gel in it...called slime...and which makes your tube type tyre a tube less one...!! There have been senior member on the ZMR thread who have been using their M45 for over 5 years as TL with the help of Tuff Ups....and the Tuff ups are easy to get in Mumbai atleast...!!!

Here is how i clean the fuel injector brother....very easy...but beware..!!! Orelse come down to Mumbai from delhi..il do it for you!!
Check this link:

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post884992

Thanks for link...

Also, post some images of Zapper Q...i think its a 110...right?

Originally posted by psr View Post

It is indeed painful to see you struggling to get your bike fixed properly at SVC..Do get the Rocker arm, cam and timing chain tensioner checked.....I had seen a few ZMA/ZMR having problem of wear in this area...I am presuming that there is no problem with either the injector of Fuel Pump...

During the last service ; they found cylinder, values and cam faulty...which they have changed...rocker arm, fuel pump is fine...injector has been replaced...

waiting for a HM engineer to inspect my ZMR...not sure when they will arrive at SVC...

**Divya Sharan** · 11-20-2012, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by Praj zm View Post

i was wrong about braking all this time but everyone insists on not applying only the front brakes
besides which svc do you give your bike for service dude

Its as per your comfort bro.... I for myself used 100% front brakes only for my initial part of the touring in Chennai. I was still experimenting then. I guess I followed the ONLY front procedure for at least 3k kms. Contrary to what people preach, it was not (so) dangerous. But yes, I locked my front wheel a few times, never fell though.
Then, increased the input from rear too. Till recently, I followed 80:20 front:rear ratio, but finally settled at 70:30.

Make sure that you use the front more than the rear. Use those large discs.
I service my bike myself. I visit the SVC once in 6 months just for regular check up. Never visited an SVC in Bangalore yet. Shall do so in Jan/Feb. BTW, Swastik Motors in Mathikere is good I heard.

dude, you are changing because your stock tires are not good anymore or for good grip
give a ride review soon

I guess paddy bhai needs better grip. I don't think that the rear (or front for that matter) would wear out in 14k. Great choices I must say.

**Mzee_Maverik** · 11-20-2012, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post

Zapper Q is Tubeless tyre..

I Don't think tank bag will have problem with the tank side strip...you can check the new zmr for your doubt

How to clean a fuel injector?

it is simple:
1: open the tank screw (located under seat)
2: pull the tank slightly up and insert something under it so that it retain its position.
3: now that the throttle body is exposed, open two screws on top which holds the injector from o-ring spanner (it was 6no but not sure).
4: pull out the injector from throttle body, disconnect the wire from its socket and then the injector from its socket(at this point some petrol will fall from the back of the injector but dont worry its ok).
5: clean it with petrol and pressurized air so that all the 12 holes are visible clearly.
6: now for fitting it back follow the above steps in reverse.

if you are cleaning it by yourself then after getting the injector fitted back in the throttle body, be sure to switch on and off ignition atleast 3 times without starting bike so that fuel pump creates the fuel pressure at the injector.
secondly do not install the injector back until all the 12 holes are clearly visible otherwise bike will run sluggish.

the latest word of advice from my mech: "do whatever you like but make sure ignition is off"

**vickyraj82** · 11-20-2012, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Please use the front brake MORE than the rear. I follow a 70:30 (front:rear) ratio. In rainy season, its more like 60:40, but we must always use the front more than the rear.
Ask yourself, the front has got a 276mm disc for some reason, right? The rear's a puny 230mm disc.
Use the rear only to control the bike, ie; say if you're braking from 60 to 0, use the front brake to slow down from 60 to around 30ish and then apply both brakes to stop.

Please go through - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/art-safe...0-braking.html thread.

Bleeding in layman terms means replacing the brake fluid.

i wil try and follow this 70 30 r 60 40 ratio but using more front brakes causes worn out of front pads faster ,?

u seem to be tourer , can i know how do u brake in slow speeds like in traffic jams where you are on low gears do u use only front or only rear ?
and i am aware that front disc is larger than rear but if i apply more front disk the bike either suddenly stops or gives jerks does that happen to u ever or u have over come it ?

and is this 70 front 30 rear technique is applicable to bikes which have disc at front drum brakes at rear and because what i have observed is they only use the rear drum brakes more and slightly the front brakes ,

Bleeding in layman terms means replacing the brake fluid.//

the mechanic always topup the liquid in hh svc never seen replacing the brake fluid whats the use of this one ?

**padfootmoony2006** · 11-20-2012, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by Praj zm View Post

dude, you are changing because your stock tires are not good anymore or for good grip
give a ride review soon

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

I guess paddy bhai needs better grip. I don't think that the rear (or front for that matter) would wear out in 14k. Great choices I must say.

Yeps...aint changing coz they have worn out...the tyres are in perfect shape and condition...!!! its just that off lately ive been riding a lot on weekends....almost everyweekend i atleast do a 300kms round trip.....so in search of good rubber...!! The stock zappers arent bad anyway....but if i get something better i would not mind...:-)....but bad news..cannot find the M62 in Mumbai.....they have stopped the distribution coz of the ISI mark issue.......even when i had thought of changin to M45...the M45 has stopped being sold in Mumbai....!! AArrrghh......Horribly unstable on my mind now....coz if i have to stay stock on my front tyres...id rather be stock on my rear also till i wear them out..:-) and change them before my leh ladakh ride in April-May 2013...!!

But as of now....two chages that im going to make for sure.....Oil to Motul 7100 10W40 FS and spark plug to g power..!!!

**Divya Sharan** · 11-20-2012, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by vickyraj82 View Post

i wil try and follow this 70 30 r 60 40 ratio but using more front brakes causes worn out of front pads faster ,?

Yes, front pads will wear out but not as fast as the rear ones because the pads are larger for front. Owners may confirm this.
Also, check if the pads are constantly touching the disc, maybe that's why they're wearing off fast.

u seem to be tourer , can i know how do u brake in slow speeds like in traffic jams where you are on low gears do u use only front or only rear ?
and i am aware that front disc is larger than rear but if i apply more front disk the bike either suddenly stops or gives jerks does that happen to u ever or u have over come it ?

In heavy traffic, I use only front.... In traffic when I can't move >20 kmph or 2nd gear; I rely only on front. For sudden jerking/stopping-with-the-front-disc-phenomenon; you need practice, that's all.

and is this 70 front 30 rear technique is applicable to bikes which have disc at front drum brakes at rear and because what i have observed is they only use the rear drum brakes more and slightly the front brakes ,

Applicable to ALL bikes, both drums as well.

the mechanic always topup the liquid in hh svc never seen replacing the brake fluid whats the use of this one ?

Why do you replace the engine oil at specified intervals? Same is the case here as well brother!

Originally posted by padfootmoony2006 View Post

But as of now....two chages that im going to make for sure.....Oil to Motul 7100 10W40 FS and spark plug to g power..!!!

Wow.... Again, awesome set of choices! You may try Mobil1 as well.

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