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**fernsruben** · 04-21-2013, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Glad to know that you are ok. To prevent road rash, please use gloves and jackets. Will be worth it.
And the crash guard indeed is a guardian angel.

Please stay away form mechanical ABS, no solid reviews have been noted till date and it is really a gamble. So it's your call. You wouldn't want the mechanical abs to fail and cause some nasty adventure , do you ?

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Thanks a lot Krishna....soon as I reached home..i removed the damaged guard...went to the lathe and got the damaged part straightened out....... so I should avoid these mechanical abs rite? would agree..since they'r aftermarket...no guarantee..thanks anyways....

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Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Clean the oil with kerosene or diesel, ride the bike a few more kms and if there is fresh deposit then yes, gasket leak. There are temporary solutions though, Anabond being the most famous one. Apply a layer of anabond, should plug the leak, and get the gaskets changed when you go in for the next service.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Krishna...do u know any alternative to anabond...? cause we don't really get it in goa.....red rtv is easily available...any alternative in araldite?

**krish2778** · 04-21-2013, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by fernsruben View Post

Thanks a lot Krishna....soon as I reached home..i removed the damaged guard...went to the lathe and got the damaged part straightened out....... so I should avoid these mechanical abs rite? would agree..since they'r aftermarket...no guarantee..thanks anyways....

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Krishna...do u know any alternative to anabond...? cause we don't really get it in goa.....red rtv is easily available...any alternative in araldite?

Please get a new guard, don't risk it with an already impact taken one, the joints and all will be pretty weak as it had taken a structural damage. New one costs very less somewhere below the 250rs mark i guess. Don't compromise on that.

And alternative to anabond. hmm..let me see, will post back in a few hours. Araldite is an industrial grade adhesive, but how well will it serve in high operating temprature is something I cannot comment about.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

**B7ACKTHORN** · 04-21-2013, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by fernsruben View Post

Met with an accident.....this carriage rickshaw driver tries to overtake while there was traffic in the other lane.....so seeing him come towards me....I braked...not realising I had to dampen the lever softly...wheel locked....bike skid....and......"grrrshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"....the next thing I know is that im lying on the ground.....had some people come to lift me n the bike...I was up by then already...n started checkin theb bike...some taxi drivers around were like..... "leave the bike....check yoursely"lol....only the engine/tank/led guard was smashed..took all the impact....left footped is damaged too....fairing got scratched....n I got some bruises n a sprained arm..!!! pulsar...u saved me.... with God's grace...

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Guys...do u think aftermarket ABS/mechanical ABS is advisable to be installed on my p220?

Oh happy for you you're safe. Regarding the ABS I reckon it can't because there is a lot that goes into making an ABS for a specific motorcycle.

But yes if it had ABS the price would have been definitely higher which is not one of Bajaj's corporate laws. (pun intended) :banghead:

Anyway ride safe,

Cheers!
VJ

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**Praful** · 04-21-2013, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by metaphoric.el View Post

Does a DTS-Fi give better mileage than DTSi?
What are the advantages of DTS-Fi over Carb DTSi? ( Tried to search for this, but I did not find the right answers)
If one had to buy a second hand 220F, at the same price and same condition, what would be recommended? DTS-Fi? or a Carb DTSi ?

'Better' is relative

The range of variance in the Dts-i's mileage is far more compared to the Fi. The lowest of the Dts-i is lower than the Fi, also the highest of the Dts-i is higher than the Fi.

So on the whole, Dts-i will reward you for riding well, and rob you for riding harshly. On the other hand Fi whatever you do, the variance in mileage will be minimal. But, for both the Fi and Dts-i weirdly there is no consistent mileage figure, it varies from bike to bike

All said and done, in today's market you are better off buying a Dts-i. The Fi's disadvantages far outweigh the advantages today.

Originally posted by fernsruben View Post

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Guys...do u think aftermarket ABS/mechanical ABS is advisable to be installed on my p220?

I would rather install a ABS in my right hand and foot

.. if you get what I mean

**B7ACKTHORN** · 04-21-2013, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by Praful View Post

'Better' is relative

The range of variance in the Dts-i's mileage is far more compared to the Fi. The lowest of the Dts-i is lower than the Fi, also the highest of the Dts-i is higher than the Fi.

So on the whole, Dts-i will reward you for riding well, and rob you for riding harshly. On the other hand Fi whatever you do, the variance in mileage will be minimal. But, for both the Fi and Dts-i weirdly there is no consistent mileage figure, it varies from bike to bike

All said and done, in today's market you are better off buying a Dts-i. The Fi's disadvantages far outweigh the advantages today.

It can be justified by none other than you. :thumbup: No more facepalm photo please.

Originally posted by Praful View Post

'Better' is relative

I would rather install a ABS in my right hand and foot

.. if you get what I mean

LOL

:thumbup:

Cheers!
VJ

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**Praful** · 04-21-2013, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

It can be justified by none other than you. :thumbup: No more facepalm photo please.

LOL

:thumbup:

Cheers!
VJ

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Wasn't me dude.. Someone posted a similar pic on another thread in another forum just seemed apt for all the praising

**B7ACKTHORN** · 04-21-2013, 03:20 PM

:banghead:

Cheers!
VJ

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**fernsruben** · 04-21-2013, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Please get a new guard, don't risk it with an already impact taken one, the joints and all will be pretty weak as it had taken a structural damage. New one costs very less somewhere below the 250rs mark i guess. Don't compromise on that.

And alternative to anabond. hmm..let me see, will post back in a few hours. Araldite is an industrial grade adhesive, but how well will it serve in high operating temprature is something I cannot comment about.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Even my dad was tellin me the same.....to get a new guard....will do that...have to get my engine oil changed....fork washers checked too....so will accumulate all my needs and get it done at once...250 is the price?? seriously?? gosh..these pbk guys are cheatin us in Goa...statin it to be somewhere bout 600...will check it wid em..

by the way...i bought a tube of m-seal red rtv.....cleaned the leak with wd-40..wiped off the slick of oil...n evenly coated the joint with the silicon gasket maker...will post pics....have to wait till i take it fr a ride now

....i guess araldite will be too hard...n not heat proof....gasket sealants are the only efficient adhesives for the job due to the heat bearance...

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Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Oh happy for you you're safe. Regarding the ABS I reckon it can't because there is a lot that goes into making an ABS for a specific motorcycle.

But yes if it had ABS the price would have been definitely higher which is not one of Bajaj's corporate laws. (pun intended) :banghead:

Anyway ride safe,

Cheers!
VJ

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Thanks thorn....still remember the days when everyone called pulsar the "accident bike" realising now...that it was the first bike to sport a disk brake and a powerful 150 cc engine...both first intro's for indian riders...for which indian riders still had to learn the nuances of avoiding wheel lockups.... bout abs..im still havin second thoughts bout saferide abs...

**fernsruben** · 04-21-2013, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by Praful View Post

'Better' is relative

The range of variance in the Dts-i's mileage is far more compared to the Fi. The lowest of the Dts-i is lower than the Fi, also the highest of the Dts-i is higher than the Fi.

So on the whole, Dts-i will reward you for riding well, and rob you for riding harshly. On the other hand Fi whatever you do, the variance in mileage will be minimal. But, for both the Fi and Dts-i weirdly there is no consistent mileage figure, it varies from bike to bike

All said and done, in today's market you are better off buying a Dts-i. The Fi's disadvantages far outweigh the advantages today.

I would rather install a ABS in my right hand and foot

.. if you get what I mean

lol...agree ...hehe....

**krish2778** · 04-21-2013, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by fernsruben View Post

Even my dad was tellin me the same.....to get a new guard....will do that...have to get my engine oil changed....fork washers checked too....so will accumulate all my needs and get it done at once...250 is the price?? seriously?? gosh..these pbk guys are cheatin us in Goa...statin it to be somewhere bout 600...will check it wid em..

by the way...i bought a tube of m-seal red rtv.....cleaned the leak with wd-40..wiped off the slick of oil...n evenly coated the joint with the silicon gasket maker...will post pics....have to wait till i take it fr a ride now

....i guess araldite will be too hard...n not heat proof....gasket sealants are the only efficient adhesives for the job due to the heat bearance...

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Thanks thorn....still remember the days when everyone called pulsar the "accident bike" realising now...that it was the first bike to sport a disk brake and a powerful 150 cc engine...both first intro's for indian riders...for which indian riders still had to learn the nuances of avoiding wheel lockups.... bout abs..im still havin second thoughts bout saferide abs...

The crash guard is available as 2 pieces i think for our bikes, so you might only need to get one side. So half the cost .And yes, use m-seal. I asked a friend, he said to stay away from araldite, not good to use as the industrial grade adhesive will be hard to remove the parts once it has been fixed with araldite.

Cheers
Ride safe
Krishna

**B7ACKTHORN** · 04-21-2013, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

The crash guard is available as 2 pieces i think for our bikes, so you might only need to get one side. So half the cost .And yes, use m-seal. I asked a friend, he said to stay away from araldite, not good to use as the industrial grade adhesive will be hard to remove the parts once it has been fixed with araldite.

Cheers
Ride safe
Krishna

The advantage of the crash beams on our bike is the sides are independent of each other. So I think per side costs some 250 odd bucks, darn costly. I've changed the left side once and it costed the same.

Cheers!
VJ

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**fernsruben** · 04-21-2013, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

The crash guard is available as 2 pieces i think for our bikes, so you might only need to get one side. So half the cost .And yes, use m-seal. I asked a friend, he said to stay away from araldite, not good to use as the industrial grade adhesive will be hard to remove the parts once it has been fixed with araldite.

Cheers
Ride safe
Krishna

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

The advantage of the crash beams on our bike is the sides are independent of each other. So I think per side costs some 250 odd bucks, darn costly. I've changed the left side once and it costed the same.

Cheers!
VJ

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@ Krishna:I applied a thin layer of m-seal red rtv....in the mornin...took the bike today eve for a ride...(felt nice to be on my buddy pulsar after the accident...he saved me after all) and...rechecked the engine...the layer of silicon rtv seems to have plugged the leak...n with the engine heat...seems to have formed an even better seal...after all its a gasket maker....so...worked awesome...only thing now is that...i wanna remove the red rtv ive applied and apply a blue or white rtv....the red one makes it look like its experienced the "jugaad" hands of its owner :P plus like its bleeding..or someone's spat paan on it

lool.....

@krishna.... @thorn..: im gonna check the guards...dad met with an accident last year...right side guard was replaced.... realised that the new 220f guards a bit longer than the 220fi guards...gives it a bit of a bad eye candy for the admant observer and a obsessive owner like me...thanks anyways...indeed they are costly....frying pans are cheaper.... that too with teflon :P

**krish2778** · 04-21-2013, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by fernsruben View Post

@ Krishna:I applied a thin layer of m-seal red rtv....in the mornin...took the bike today eve for a ride...(felt nice to be on my buddy pulsar after the accident...he saved me after all) and...rechecked the engine...the layer of silicon rtv seems to have plugged the leak...n with the engine heat...seems to have formed an even better seal...after all its a gasket maker....so...worked awesome...only thing now is that...i wanna remove the red rtv ive applied and apply a blue or white rtv....the red one makes it look like its experienced the "jugaad" hands of its owner :P plus like its bleeding..or someone's spat paan on it

lool.....

@krishna.... @thorn..: im gonna check the guards...dad met with an accident last year...right side guard was replaced.... realised that the new 220f guards a bit longer than the 220fi guards...gives it a bit of a bad eye candy for the admant observer and a obsessive owner like me...thanks anyways...indeed they are costly....frying pans are cheaper.... that too with teflon :P

Haha. getting the mseal off might be a task indeed. All the best with that.
Anyways the leak is plugged and that is good.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

**fernsruben** · 04-22-2013, 02:43 AM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Haha. getting the mseal off might be a task indeed. All the best with that.
Anyways the leak is plugged and that is good.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

It isn't exactly m-seal epoxy putty....its a silicon rtv......check this M Seal High Temperature Red RTV from Industrial Tools & Adhesive Co.,Pune,Maharashtra,India,ID: 3692213330 ...... shouldn't be that tough to get out..

**krish2778** · 04-22-2013, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by fernsruben View Post

It isn't exactly m-seal epoxy putty....its a silicon rtv......check this M Seal High Temperature Red RTV from Industrial Tools & Adhesive Co.,Pune,Maharashtra,India,ID: 3692213330 ...... shouldn't be that tough to get out..

All is well then...!!! But don't forget to replace the gasket soon.

Cheers
Ride safe
Krishna

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