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  • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

    Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
    So afterall it was just a false alarm..!! Haha..!!

    Cheers
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    Krishna
    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    After all the motor needs to pump to spray the fuel right, it is indeed supposed to run with that low humming -- not humming, but that's a sexy sound FI start up is always cool. The reason I was misleaded because of your stating the pump goes on and on and on right from the ignition on.

    So here is Praful in Ooty.

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    • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

      was jus lookin at a new p220f the other day...was quite amazed with how Bajaj has drastically improved the quality of parts used.... :O
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      • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

        Originally posted by fernsruben View Post
        was jus lookin at a new p220f the other day...was quite amazed with how Bajaj has drastically improved the quality of parts used.... :O
        Which parts ?

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        • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

          Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
          Which parts ?

          Cheers
          Ride safe
          Krishna
          With a Pulsar you will never know what all gets changed every few months!

          Bajaj works on continual improvement of all its bikes, that's why the bikes are pretty low on quality at the start of their lifecycle i.e. the P220 Fi, and now at the end of its life the P220 Dts-i speed lines , feels way better on quality over (my) first gen 220 Fi.

          Most of the types the parts are not interchangeable and need complete component changes.
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          • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

            Originally posted by Praful View Post
            With a Pulsar you will never know what all gets changed every few months!

            Bajaj works on continual improvement of all its bikes, that's why the bikes are pretty low on quality at the start of their lifecycle i.e. the P220 Fi, and now at the end of its life the P220 Dts-i speed lines , feels way better on quality over (my) first gen 220 Fi.

            Most of the types the parts are not interchangeable and need complete component changes.
            An observation I made. Mine is a may 2010 model 220F and post crash 2012 i had the rear cowl and fairing changed and the quality of the fiber parts i felt was inferior, kinda flimsy and paint quality was a let down too. The finished product was not as smooth as you would expect. So for me the experience was opposite.
            But the headlight unit had some changes and I liked that, but not sure how much it attributes towards it's quality.



            Cheers
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            Krishna
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            • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

              Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
              An observation I made. Mine is a may 2010 model 220F and post crash 2012 i had the rear cowl and fairing changed and the quality of the fiber parts i felt was inferior, kinda flimsy and paint quality was a let down too. The finished product was not as smooth as you would expect. So for me the experience was opposite.
              But the headlight unit had some changes and I liked that, but not sure how much it attributes towards it's quality.



              Cheers
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              Krishna
              The tail lamp holders on the rear cowl would break on the 220 Fi's within a few months or earlier if you ride on bad/off roads.

              The dtsi one does not break that easily, mine was replaced in 2010 with the Dtsi one and its broken now after years.

              Fiber quality in my books has gone up, don't have data but the metallurgy seems to have improved too.
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              • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                I guess they should, after all with big partners, they do learn some good skills from KTM especially from metallurgy and quality fiber parts, and if this know-how is dripped down to the street level, then Bajaj has got even more happy customers.

                But definitely the parts that come from factory have their standards as opposed to the same getting replaced with their "BAJAJ genuine parts". For the most part, it's more or less the same, IMHO, but yes, in Bajaj anything, can happen, any friggin time.

                Cheers!
                VJ
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                • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                  Originally posted by Praful View Post
                  The tail lamp holders on the rear cowl would break on the 220 Fi's within a few months or earlier if you ride on bad/off roads.

                  The dtsi one does not break that easily, mine was replaced in 2010 with the Dtsi one and its broken now after years.

                  Fiber quality in my books has gone up, don't have data but the metallurgy seems to have improved too.
                  The rear cowl mount points in mine had broken after 2 years of useage. So i guess you sre right there. And it broke du to excess trbelling in broken roads which was the case till sometime back.


                  Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                  I guess they should, after all with big partners, they do learn some good skills from KTM especially from metallurgy and quality fiber parts, and if this know-how is dripped down to the street level, then Bajaj has got even more happy customers.

                  But definitely the parts that come from factory have their standards as opposed to the same getting replaced with their "BAJAJ genuine parts". For the most part, it's more or less the same, IMHO, but yes, in Bajaj anything, can happen, any friggin time.

                  Cheers!
                  VJ
                  I did have the same feeling, that the spares we get from bajaj are pretty much lesser quality or lasts lesser than the stock parts did. And the main part i feel is the rear brake pads. Those buggers just eat their way out much faster than the front one's and i hardely use the rear pads..!!!

                  Cheers
                  Ride safe
                  Krishna
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                  • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                    My taillight mounts broke after 3 years of very rough use....i never slow down on hills...ehh...speedbreaker hills......and bike just makes a noise....though I do not care much....i ride into potholes....though have tried to rectify my habits....but would say from my experience pulsar fiber parts quality has gone up.....also in a crash..my crashbar bent completely and even handlebar weights were damaged..but the rear and front coul are intact..even though they still show the glory of my stupid cornering with that friggin center stand :P
                    I escaped scratchless.. Just that my thigh bone remained to pain for a few days....hehe

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                    • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                      iv actually noticed that factory assembled bikes hav grt quality parts .....not the same with the replacement spares ....price reduction id guess...individual spares cost more to produce....so..therefore the inf quality.......but everythin of the latest 220f....is silky smooth...n premium...(factory assembled)
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                      • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                        Originally posted by fernsruben View Post
                        iv actually noticed that factory assembled bikes hav grt quality parts .....not the same with the replacement spares ....price reduction id guess...individual spares cost more to produce....so..therefore the inf quality.......but everythin of the latest 220f....is silky smooth...n premium...(factory assembled)
                        Well...feels nice to know that they have increased the quality of the bike. Goes a long way in increasing the sales figures.

                        Cheers
                        Ride safe
                        Krishna
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                        • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                          Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                          Well...feels nice to know that they have increased the quality of the bike. Goes a long way in increasing the sales figures.

                          Cheers
                          Ride safe
                          Krishna
                          agree...but they've kept the price quite reasonable...p220f sells at 81k on road..

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                          even the wiring is of excellent quality....the gold powder coating on the engine...the metal braided hydraulic cables....more durable plasto,..
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                          • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                            Originally posted by mav1234 View Post
                            1. After the ride from Munnar, last weekend, there is some regular sound coming from the Sliencer assembly. The PBK guys told that whole Setup needs to be changed ( that means New Silencer what i came to know ). Although this can be claimed by Insurance, but my point is, is there anybody who can think of any other solution other than going for new one.

                            Its not 220, but just want you people to know from where the sound is coming.



                            2. Is there a possibility of putting Second disc brake on P220...(just wanna know).

                            Link for the thread wherein one FZ guy has put the second Disc Brake and a few modification :

                            http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/pit-stop...ation-124.html
                            that's the entry/exit point fr the exhaust-tec chamber...so I will produce swirling sounds..
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                            • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                              Originally posted by fernsruben View Post
                              that's the entry/exit point fr the exhaust-tec chamber...so I will produce swirling sounds..
                              Can you please explain, what's swirling sounds of exhaust tec and the effects of it.

                              Cheers!
                              VJ

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                              The girl said, 'NO!'


                              And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


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                              • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                                Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                                Can you please explain, what's swirling sounds of exhaust tec and the effects of it.

                                Cheers!
                                VJ

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                                well...the chamber connected below is a connected by a l-shaped pipe.....basically the box/chamber is a resonator unit which is electronically tuned before fitting it on the silencer/exhaust pipe/assy....since its a rectangular box and flat...the exhaust produces a lean sound compared to free flow exhausts...while the engine is running and u put ya hear chose to the unit(without burnin ya face) ul hear mild sounds.....similar to what u hear when u put a shell to ya ear.....that's the swirling ...since its a resonator...it has to make sounds...this in turn changes the entire function n flow of the emission...so since the gas is trapped in the chamber and manipulated vis-a-via swirl characteristics...it provides a pull torque....by which the engine does not need to provide that certain torque to move...therefore great movement at low speeds on high gears....its not exactly a pre-exhaust chamber....but its a resonator...a tuning unit(not electronic.....but analog{obviously!!}).....................

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                                By the way...was riding to the main city....a 20 mins ride...when the bike suddenly stopped and wouldn't start again....the ignition would crank up but wouldn't start the bike....then realized that the fuel pump wasn't working...so I checked the spark plugs.....tried shorting off the starter relay...still no progress...this was at 9:00 am...(and at that time...in goa...there aint a single shop open) ...waited till 9:40...walked the bike to the village market.......spoke to local mechs....well..they readily denied to try their skills on a 220...(I was both happy{THESE ANADI'S AND TOUCH MY BIKE??} at the same time exhausted and dismayed....plus pushin the bike took its toll on me....) then called my friends to pull the bike to the Bajaj workshop(more of garage) close to where I live....was a 15 min ride...friends come by 11:30 am.....and they tried "dhakka" starting the bike....but whell....still no progress....then reached the Bajaj mech....he tried all he could....realized the starter relay was not supplyin current.....had to be changed....but didn't have the part...went to a friend's garage....local one..they had the avenger relay...which is a single socket...and apparently the same fit for p220 too.........ignition was a bit better....but still no progress with the bike...I kept tellin the mech to check the pump and the injector...but well..........."nahi saab....aapko kya pata hain?? who problem nahin hai...." then I called the senior Bajaj engineer from the north region of goa....and he told me that...there are 11 sensors for a 220 fi.....so even if a single sensor has gone kaput due to water or anything(note...I had washed my bike the prev day) the ecu senses a engine failure...n to protect the engine from further damages....shuts down the startup thru other methods.....then the mech gave up sayin tellin me to take it to the workshop or the bigger outlet of theirs.....then by the time it was 4 :30 pm...we had to take the bike back to the city...so another half an hour ride thru "dhakka" movement...(can u believe...a cd dawn could pust athe p220 to 60 speeds?? wow :P ) ....on reachin the centre.....got a job card done...n now the bike lies there like a cancer patient for its mri scan n further diagnosis....................... ...ps....the display console kept displaying " ecu 3.9" any idea bout this??
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