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**Giftonsamuel** · 03-24-2013, 11:21 PM

What is this?

i opened up the battery compartment to check for the signs of rust and found a green color plug without any connection.
what is that?

Also when i started the bike at midnight after some 3hrs of lying idle the bike started at first crank and i waited for 20 sec for oil to spread at idle.
Even after this when i tried accelerating fastly after some 300m to escape from chasing dogs the bike was at 3rd gear at 25kph the bike STALLED and i was crying for mercy and after 2 sec the bike picked up pace and i escaped.what could be the reason?never ever happened in any other bike to me even at low temperature

and some testimonies about SYSTEM G used in cars

The Fuel Additives Thread

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/technical-stuff/18742-system-g-d-iftex-yes-no-fuel-additives-thread-32.html

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**B7ACKTHORN** · 03-25-2013, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by Giftonsamuel View Post

i opened up the battery compartment to check for the signs of rust and found a green color plug without any connection.
what is that?

Also when i started the bike at midnight after some 3hrs of lying idle the bike started at first crank and i waited for 20 sec for oil to spread at idle.
Even after this when i tried accelerating fastly after some 300m to escape from chasing dogs the bike was at 3rd gear at 25kph the bike STALLED and i was crying for mercy and after 2 sec the bike picked up pace and i escaped.what could be the reason?never ever happened in any other bike to me even at low temperature

and some testimonies about SYSTEM G used in cars
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...thread-32.html

Considering yours is an Fi my DTSI chucks such, but I guess it has to do with ECU diagnosis or some sort of connector port such a device to plug in, I might be wrong, but I can only speculate. Perhaps Praful can chime in too.

Cheers!
VJ

**Giftonsamuel** · 03-25-2013, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Considering yours is an Fi my DTSI chucks such, but I guess it has to do with ECU diagnosis or some sort of connector port such a device to plug in, I might be wrong, but I can only speculate. Perhaps Praful can chime in too.

Cheers!
VJ

thanks for the reply.yeah waiting for praful ana reply.
@ VJ what about the engine stalling matter?have you experienced it bro?

**Praful** · 03-25-2013, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by Giftonsamuel View Post

i opened up the battery compartment to check for the signs of rust and found a green color plug without any connection.
what is that?

Also when i started the bike at midnight after some 3hrs of lying idle the bike started at first crank and i waited for 20 sec for oil to spread at idle.
Even after this when i tried accelerating fastly after some 300m to escape from chasing dogs the bike was at 3rd gear at 25kph the bike STALLED and i was crying for mercy and after 2 sec the bike picked up pace and i escaped.what could be the reason?never ever happened in any other bike to me even at low temperature

IIRC that green plug connects that black capacitor. That capacitor is linked to the ignition circuit of your bike, I am surprised that the bike is starting despite that being connected.

BTW, change that black capacitor ASAP, its pretty badly rusted.

Too high gear at too low a speed that's why it stalled.

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Considering yours is an Fi my DTSI chucks such, but I guess it has to do with ECU diagnosis or some sort of connector port such a device to plug in, I might be wrong, but I can only speculate. Perhaps Praful can chime in too.

Cheers!
VJ

Little knowledge is a dangerous thing!

The ECU diagnostic port is placed elsewhere.

**Praj zm** · 03-25-2013, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by Giftonsamuel View Post

No but knew people who have tried this and they are satisfied .
Actually we had an lab experiment about injector cleaning and its quite simple so if SVC is not helping then takeit to an car or lorry garage they might help you.its like taking the injector out and placing it in an machine and give some pressure and fuel to it and check th output for fine spray

Originally posted by Praful View Post

All fuel injected vehicles need injector cleaning.

On the 220 its anywhere from 10-20K.
Yes tried it.

No positive effects noticed.

Infact I felt the bike ran a little rough, but that could be due to any issue.

can you please guide me how can i convince the svc people to do this job or any alternative place
do i have to get the fuel filter also cleaned in a regular interval of time is it
thanks for your input

**B7ACKTHORN** · 03-25-2013, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by Praful View Post

Little knowledge is a dangerous thing!

The ECU diagnostic port is placed elsewhere.

Yea mate, I was unsure, so tagged you along. Good to learn new things daily right

@Gifton, mine is a DTSI mate.

Cheers!
VJ

**Praful** · 03-25-2013, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by Praj zm View Post

can you please guide me how can i convince the svc people to do this job or any alternative place
do i have to get the fuel filter also cleaned in a regular interval of time is it
thanks for your input

Not sure about the ZMR, what does the manual say ? Does it not specify any injector cleaning and fuel filter replacement interval?

On the 220, Fuel filter replacement interval is 5K kms (lesser if you have been filling bad quality fuel)

**Giftonsamuel** · 03-25-2013, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by Praful View Post

IIRC that green plug connects that black capacitor. That capacitor is linked to the ignition circuit of your bike, I am surprised that the bike is starting despite that being connected.
BEING CONNECTED OR NOT BEING CONNECTED?

BTW, change that black capacitor ASAP, its pretty badly rusted.

Too high gear at too low a speed that's why it stalled.

Little knowledge is a dangerous thing!

The ECU diagnostic port is placed elsewhere.

CANT GET YOU.rep in BOLD
What is the purpose of the capacitor?
And what is the function of the green plug if connected?
And at what speed you change gears ?for me its
upto10@1st
10 to 20@2nd
20 to 30 @3rd
30 to 40 @4th
because if i take the rpm upwards it starts vibrating and being a previous winged rider i hate it.

Originally posted by Praj zm View Post

can you please guide me how can i convince the svc people to do this job or any alternative place
do i have to get the fuel filter also cleaned in a regular interval of time is it
thanks for your input

check your service manual.
If its mentioned there then show it and force them or shoot out a complain to HERO.
for fuel filter replace it if available or clean it by blewing compressed air(found it some where in this thread).
And try changing the SVC as they may not be familiar with FI bikes.

**Praful** · 04-01-2013, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by Giftonsamuel View Post

CANT GET YOU.rep in BOLD
What is the purpose of the capacitor?
And what is the function of the green plug if connected?
And at what speed you change gears ?for me its
upto10@1st
10 to 20@2nd
20 to 30 @3rd
30 to 40 @4th
because if i take the rpm upwards it starts vibrating and being a previous winged rider i hate it.
.

I am not aware of the exact function of the capacitor but my bike went dead once because that capacitor had rusted off. That green plug is the connector for the capacitor.

I change gears based on RPM not speed. And depending on mood/road/traffic I shift anywhere from 4K-9.5K RPM. Its a Pulsar, vibrations are a part and parcel of life.

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**Praj zm** · 04-01-2013, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by Praful View Post

Not sure about the ZMR, what does the manual say ? Does it not specify any injector cleaning and fuel filter replacement interval?

On the 220, Fuel filter replacement interval is 5K kms (lesser if you have been filling bad quality fuel)

Originally posted by Giftonsamuel View Post

check your service manual.
If its mentioned there then show it and force them or shoot out a complain to HERO.
for fuel filter replace it if available or clean it by blewing compressed air(found it some where in this thread).
And try changing the SVC as they may not be familiar with FI bikes.

missed the post
i will check it today, did not think about this
thanks for the input praful and samuel

**krish2778** · 04-01-2013, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by Praful View Post

I am not aware of the exact function of the capacitor but my bike went dead once because that capacitor had rusted off. That green plug is the connector for the capacitor.

I change gears based on RPM not speed. And depending on mood/road/traffic I shift anywhere from 4K-9.5K RPM. Its a Pulsar, vibrations are a part and parcel of life.

Now this is some co-incidence, had a small problem with the engine heat sensor breaking off and the auto choke to get engaged every time when i crank the bike, and trust me when the engine is hot you don't want the auto choke to kick in , that too with a RC FFE in place. And I every smartly unplugged the green plug thinking it was the auto choke sensor still the problem prevailed, only to find out that it was the wrong green sensor i was pulling at and this one was of the capacitor, on enquiring i was told that this helps in starting the bike when the battery is dead or low on charge, don't know if i should believe that. Well the thing is with it unplegged the bike din't behave any different and mine had been broken for God knows how long, which too i got to know only today. :-/

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

**B7ACKTHORN** · 04-01-2013, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Now this is some co-incidence, had a small problem with the engine heat sensor breaking off and the auto choke to get engaged every time when i crank the bike, and trust me when the engine is hot you don't want the auto choke to kick in , that too with a RC FFE in place. And I every smartly unplugged the green plug thinking it was the auto choke sensor still the problem prevailed, only to find out that it was the wrong green sensor i was pulling at and this one was of the capacitor, on enquiring i was told that this helps in starting the bike when the battery is dead or low on charge, don't know if i should believe that. Well the thing is with it unplegged the bike din't behave any different and mine had been broken for God knows how long, which too i got to know only today. :-/

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Indeed you echo what Gifton Samuel's case was. His was too unplugged but I guess it didn't have any effect on him. If a battery is dead, it is dead at least I reckon. Perhaps it might help is the so called "spring effect" power effect helping conserve the current and then letting it go off at that third crank stop feature. But the dhakka for auto choke is on the left side.

Cheers!
VJ

**krish2778** · 04-01-2013, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Indeed you echo what Gifton Samuel's case was. His was too unplugged but I guess it didn't have any effect on him. If a battery is dead, it is dead at least I reckon. Perhaps it might help is the so called "spring effect" power effect helping conserve the current and then letting it go off at that third crank stop feature. But the dhakka for auto choke is on the left side.

Cheers!
VJ

Interesting. Need to know more about this stuff.

Cheers
Ride safe
Krishna

**B7ACKTHORN** · 04-01-2013, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Interesting. Need to know more about this stuff.

Cheers
Ride safe
Krishna

Indeed. Though it's small nitty-gritty, that drag on much they seem too big, but ultimately not so much to be significant.

Cheers!
VJ

**Praful** · 04-02-2013, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Now this is some co-incidence, had a small problem with the engine heat sensor breaking off and the auto choke to get engaged every time when i crank the bike, and trust me when the engine is hot you don't want the auto choke to kick in , that too with a RC FFE in place. And I every smartly unplugged the green plug thinking it was the auto choke sensor still the problem prevailed, only to find out that it was the wrong green sensor i was pulling at and this one was of the capacitor, on enquiring i was told that this helps in starting the bike when the battery is dead or low on charge, don't know if i should believe that. Well the thing is with it unplegged the bike din't behave any different and mine had been broken for God knows how long, which too i got to know only today. :-/

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Post a picture of your battery compartment please.

I don't remember seeing this capacitor on the Dtsi, or maybe I'm really going old

Folks, who have had their fuel pumps replaced. Please let me know what were the symptoms you were facing before the pump gave up.

In other news, I finally changed my tyres. For the first I'm changed both front and back tyres on the same day. Also for the first time running the front tyre with a tube.

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