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  • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
    In the current economic scenario its good to have alternate career options!



    5th tank full, I assume you have done about 2.5K till now! Thats good, if my riding was limited to that much I could definitely afford to use Speed97, not with the current 2K/month running!

    My bike is doing fine, Bangalore climate doesn't seem to suit it. Even after tuning for Bangalore thrice, the bike still ran better in Chennai. Apart from a general loss of power the bike's running fine. It needs a new set of shoes ASAP. Which it will get around its first Bday which is 10 days from now!
    @Praful: I have 5 two wheelers and a car that I can use one by one This limits my run on the 220. Yes, its done 1900 KM with the 5th tankfull still in (filled it in today mornin).

    What power starvation are you talkin off? Any serious issue?
    Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

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    • Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View Post
      @Praful: I have 5 two wheelers and a car that I can use one by one This limits my run on the 220. Yes, its done 1900 KM with the 5th tankfull still in (filled it in today mornin).
      WoW!

      Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View Post
      What power starvation are you talkin off? Any serious issue?
      There is a altitude difference of 3000 Ft. between Blore and Chennai, plus the air over here is a lot more cooler. So the tuning that was running perfectly fine in Chennai was no longer perfect. So it has to be re-tuned for the colder climate, but even after 3 attempts at tuning it the bike is running pretty lean.

      The loss in performance is visible in terms of outright accleration which has definitely come down, then the bike looses too much power when riding with a pillion. Worst affected is the part where the bike just cannot pull in at a lower speed in a higher gear, I just have to down shift to get power back!

      Infact I made a trip to Chennai last weekend, and even after the 3 tune-ups for Blore the bike was back to its old performance once in Chennai.

      I don't know when these guys will get it right!
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      • My friend was going to buy a FZ160. But i gave him a ride of my babe. Told him to rip her in 3rd gear.....

        Now Yamaha have one customer less.... Sorry Yamaha!
        oh and did i mention? it has fresh motul 300v in it.

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        • Whoa, my clever bro! Are the service guys capable of doing this?
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          • Very well written Sirjee !! I think every single point has been covered on this topic..!

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            • @Praful: wat exactly do u mean by tuning ? is it the CO settings ?
              I mean things done with ECU unit ?
              Also isnt cooler temp better for engine and so will perform better ?
              Aprilia RS 125 or Honda CB400 Vtec ..... which one will it be ??? I think its gonna be NINJA ZX 6R :-)

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              • Originally posted by chilled_fire View Post
                @Praful: wat exactly do u mean by tuning ? is it the CO settings ?
                I mean things done with ECU unit ?
                Also isnt cooler temp better for engine and so will perform better ?
                Adding to that, isn't the ECU supposed to adjust settings as the ambient air condition demands?
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                • Originally posted by chilled_fire View Post
                  @Praful: wat exactly do u mean by tuning ? is it the CO settings ?
                  I mean things done with ECU unit ?
                  Also isnt cooler temp better for engine and so will perform better ?
                  even i want to know this praful.

                  Went to pbk today.Changed the fuel filter,cleaned the air filter,lubed amd adjusted the chain, again!
                  cudnt check the co%,they were repairing the tool.
                  Still the bike is doing 54 at 4k rpm and 92 at 7k rpm.
                  Bought a starter relay and relay head upon service manager's advice.
                  bought tubeless tyre puncture kit for 350 buks.
                  Im all set for a 800+ km trip.will leave tomorrow morning!
                  This will be my longest trip on my 4 month old 220.will try to post the logs too.But the problem will be a headache!
                  INWILDERNESS.IN

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                  • Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View Post
                    Yes, it should take around a day for this.

                    BTW, the PBK here operates on a FIFO basis. You can try taking your 220 there on a Monday early morning at 8:00 AM (PBK here opens at 8:30 AM) to ensure that you are the first person in the list. Normally they do not keep backlogs for the weekend and they try to finish all the jobs by Saturday; in which case, you would be the first one there on Monday with a lesser workload.

                    This may then be over in half a day itself.

                    Regarding your balancer loading, the PBK here did a decent job with Chetan's 220. He now enjoys the bike a lot
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                    Ideally it should take 1-2hrs, if ur giving the bike only for that work. And mind that they(the PBK guys) need to remove the oil and will need to pour in new oil (so if u have some costly synthetic oil.... make sure the PBK guys pour out the oil in a clean container and refill it back).
                    When they go in for 'balancing' the balancer shaft, they need to remove the plates (clutch+pressure), actually they remove the whole of clutch assembly, coz the balancer is placed behind it. So changing plates and overloading the balancer should not take much of time.

                    And ya, am really enjoying the smoothness now (touchwood).... I was really frustrated with the roughness ..... it was very similar to what Chilled mentioned.... I was also using 300v then... and now too.

                    @A n i: All the best for ur long ride.... ride safe
                    Last edited by chetanpulsar; 11-07-2008, 12:20 AM.
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                    • I owned a Red Pulsar 220.

                      Odo Reading - 25000kms

                      Changed - Disc pads rear , Filter , and regular servicing.

                      Problems - Nothing except the availability of tiny petrol filter jammer ring. It got brokenwhile the little boys are playing cricket around our colony and one hit the ball right to ma bike , nothing happened but suddenly all boys start to hang on ma bike (little boys) neverminded , but ma bike fall due to hangup loads of boys and my oil filter got break.

                      I call showroom - Khamla (Arun Automobiles ) Nagpur , the staffs didnt respond good and didnt care for my problem , its sick - , I go to local garage and just use to cut off the filter and got the oil pipe direct fitted just to move to showroom , then , they replaced it , but - Holy sick , they dont have the screw ring to keep it tight , the oil still goes leak from the pipe , so I ask solution , they said , jmust tie a wire , man - such unprofessional answer from them, Now , I called another of my friend to solve the issue - By luck I got the ring from my friend who owned a service shop.

                      Till then its ok now.

                      The bike is running smooth , but I think time came to change the cluth plates.

                      Overall experience - Great Bike.

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                      • Originally posted by chetanpulsar View Post
                        Ideally it should take 1-2hrs, if ur giving the bike only for that work. And mind that they(the PBK guys) need to remove the oil and will need to pour in new oil (so if u have some costly synthetic oil.... make sure the PBK guys pour out the oil in a clean container and refill it back).
                        When they go in for 'balancing' the balancer shaft, they need to remove the plates (clutch+pressure), actually they remove the whole of clutch assembly, coz the balancer is placed behind it. So changing plates and overloading the balancer should not take much of time.

                        And ya, am really enjoying the smoothness now (touchwood).... I was really frustrated with the roughness ..... it was very similar to what Chilled mentioned.... I was also using 300v then... and now too.

                        @A n i: All the best for ur long ride.... ride safe
                        Spot ON ...

                        Nice to know that your Beast is rockin
                        Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

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                        • Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post
                          My friend was going to buy a FZ160. But i gave him a ride of my babe. Told him to rip her in 3rd gear.....

                          Now Yamaha have one customer less.... Sorry Yamaha!
                          oh and did i mention? it has fresh motul 300v in it.
                          Ha Ha Ha....ishmart boi...

                          Originally posted by chilled_fire View Post
                          @Praful: wat exactly do u mean by tuning ? is it the CO settings ?
                          I mean things done with ECU unit ?
                          Also isnt cooler temp better for engine and so will perform better ?
                          Tuning = CO setting + Airscrew setting

                          Cooler air better, coz its more dense than hotter air. But then there is a 3000 Ft altitude difference between Chennai and Bangalore. And they higher up we go, the air gets less dense. Coupled with a drop in atmospheric pressure. The tuning that I was running in Chennai was perfect to the T, the bike was a rocket and Chennai xBhpian's said the same after riding my bike post the 10K service. Here in Blore the tuning is leaned out to a great extent and performance is taking a beating, but I do get MUCH better mileage bcoz of that, its consistently around 37-38 here, whereas in Chennai I barely managed 30-32!

                          Originally posted by theslayer View Post
                          Adding to that, isn't the ECU supposed to adjust settings as the ambient air condition demands?
                          That my boy is misconception, there are primarily two types of ECU's one is open loop and the other is closed loop. The Closed loop sensors have a O2/Lambda sensor at the exhaust, which adjusts the tuning with change in O2 density. Ours is a Open loop with no such feature.

                          But, still the 220 is suprisingly able to cope with high altitude sickness with great ease.


                          Guy, my bike is in for its 10th service (5th paid), any pointers?
                          Last edited by Praful; 03-22-2010, 12:24 AM.
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                          • @Chetan : i am goin there tomorrow for checking the clutch plates and if required will change them and if tat happens will ask them to see the balancer shaft also..
                            Bout engine oil , i will b carrying Motul with me

                            @Praful : strangely thou , when the make CO chages to my ride they never touch the air screw.
                            Aprilia RS 125 or Honda CB400 Vtec ..... which one will it be ??? I think its gonna be NINJA ZX 6R :-)

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                            • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                              ...there are primarily two types of ECU's one is open loop and the other is closed loop. The Open loop sensors have a O2/Lambda sensor at the exhaust, which adjusts the tuning with change in O2 density. Ours is a closed loop with no such feature.

                              But, still the 220 is suprisingly able to cope with high altitude sickness with great ease.


                              Guy, my bike is in for its 10th service (5th paid), any pointers?

                              Would like to check that out on a trip to LEH-LADDAKH (probably next year)..
                              Want to accompany..??



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                              • Originally posted by payeng View Post
                                Would like to check that out on a trip to LEH-LADDAKH (probably next year)..
                                Want to accompany..??


                                Leh Laddahk has already been by 2 220's that I know, and from what I've heard they performed pretty well. Much better than their carb counterparts.

                                Would love to accompany you though!

                                As long as I figure a way to transport the bike to Delhi and back with peace of mind. :x
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