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  • #16321
    Re: Karizma/Karizma R

    Originally posted by SparKot View Post

    1. I was in boarding school for 7 years, of which I stayed in hostel with asbestos sheet roof for 5 years.
    2. After schooling I was in rent house with asbestos sheet roof for 2 years.

    I'm still waiting for the manifestation of asbestosis; or I already have it without knowledge.
    Unless you damage the asbestos sheet by scraping/scrubbing, the fibers are unlikely to go airborne.
    These airborne asbestos fibers when inhaled can cause asbestosis over a period of time (under repeated exposure) .

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    • #16322
      Re: Karizma/Karizma R

      Hi Techies,

      I have got my zma's noisy tappets tightened 15 days back. I got it done from a local mechanic since the HH service in Thane is bad and they barely look after problems told by riders and also expensive. The mechanic adjusted with his bare hands. He said he has done it lot many times so knows how to set it to ideal.
      The noise is gone and engine is lot smoother now. However, I have noticed popping(no misfire) out of the exhaust recently. The sound appears when throttle closed at 40-60 kmph speed. Is it because the tappets are over tightened? Please suggest.

      The AFR is set at 3 turns and engine oil is fresh, Shell AX7.
      Last edited by PTushar; 05-27-2014, 02:46 PM. Reason: Update with more information

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      • #16323
        Re: Karizma/Karizma R

        I had this issue recently when my air filter was clogged and carb tuning not proper.
        Got a new airfilter and tuned the carb, problem vanished.
        Wait for our senior members' take on this as well.

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        • #16324
          Re: Karizma/Karizma R

          Originally posted by PTushar View Post
          Hi Techies,

          I have got my zma's noisy tappets tightened 15 days back. I got it done from a local mechanic since the HH service in Thane is bad and they barely look after problems told by riders and also expensive. The mechanic adjusted with his bare hands. He said he has done it lot many times so knows how to set it to ideal.
          The noise is gone and engine is lot smoother now. However, I have noticed popping(no misfire) out of the exhaust recently. The sound appears when throttle closed at 40-60 kmph speed. Is it because the tappets are over tightened? Please suggest.

          The AFR is set at 3 turns and engine oil is fresh, Shell AX7.
          You seem to be running a bit lean or there is a leak at the exhaust/exhaust gasket. Try adjusting the afr in increments on 1/4 turns and check.
          Or sometimes it could be bad fuel causing this.. try emptying your tank out and drain the carb and try with fuel from a different petrol bunk.
          Last edited by s1d; 05-28-2014, 02:23 AM.

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          • #16325
            Re: Karizma/Karizma R

            Originally posted by PTushar View Post
            Hi Techies,I have got my zma's noisy tappets tightened 15 days back. I got it done from a local mechanic since the HH service in Thane is bad and they barely look after problems told by riders and also expensive. The mechanic adjusted with his bare hands. He said he has done it lot many times so knows how to set it to ideal.The noise is gone and engine is lot smoother now. However, I have noticed popping(no misfire) out of the exhaust recently. The sound appears when throttle closed at 40-60 kmph speed. Is it because the tappets are over tightened? Please suggest.The AFR is set at 3 turns and engine oil is fresh, Shell AX7.
            First of all i would advice you to get the tappets checked as i think it is the tappets that is causing the problem.Most probably your intake tappets will have been tightened more than required which is causing the valve to remain open for longer duration causing the popping sound.Get both the tappets adjusted as per company specs.
            Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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            • #16326
              Re: Karizma/Karizma R



              Splendor Classic front brake pads, 119/- had bought it a month back for ZMA. Still need to source a few more parts to get the bike running, so thought once I set the internals right, I would just ride her to nearby mech and get all the remaining work like brake, suspension, swingarm bush etc done by mech.

              Sent from my SM-T211 using Tapatalk
              Motorcycling Experience:
              2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
              2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
              2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
              2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
              2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
              2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

              The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
              Adios Comrades!
              A.P. 2018

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              • #16327
                Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                Originally posted by PTushar View Post
                Hi Techies,

                I have got my zma's noisy tappets tightened 15 days back. I got it done from a local mechanic since the HH service in Thane is bad and they barely look after problems told by riders and also expensive. The mechanic adjusted with his bare hands. He said he has done it lot many times so knows how to set it to ideal.
                The noise is gone and engine is lot smoother now. However, I have noticed popping(no misfire) out of the exhaust recently. The sound appears when throttle closed at 40-60 kmph speed. Is it because the tappets are over tightened? Please suggest.

                The AFR is set at 3 turns and engine oil is fresh, Shell AX7.
                Popping sound from Exhaust in ZMA is invariably caused by failure of the Vacuum actuator in the SAI unit. Due to frequent movement the rubber skirt ,bonded to the Fresh Air plunger , the skirt and plunger separate and SAI no longer works. This leads to the Popping sound in Exhaust....If you are DIY then you can open the unit and stick the rubber skirt back with Fewi-Quick .... The unit is bolted to chassis under the Petrol tank on the gear shifter side..

                Click image for larger version Name: SAI.JPG Views: 1 Size: 55.6 KB ID: 1882203
                When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                • #16328
                  Re: Karizma/Karizma R



                  Got one of them as well.

                  Sent from my SM-T211 using Tapatalk
                  Motorcycling Experience:
                  2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                  2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                  2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                  2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                  2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                  2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                  The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                  Adios Comrades!
                  A.P. 2018

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                  • #16329
                    Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                    Mods, sorry for cross posting but I need some urgent reviews on this tyre.
                    Tyres - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community
                    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/4805-tyres-626.html#post1066954
                    The thing that keeps us rolling - deserves a separate corner of its own!


                    Guys, I require urgent inputs on this tyre. Birla Firemaxx 100/90-18 tubeless
                    My First post on xBHP!
                    Adjust Tappets on Hunk/Xtreme
                    Riding Through Maoist Territory!
                    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...in-review.html

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                    • #16330
                      Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                      Originally posted by psr View Post
                      Popping sound from Exhaust in ZMA is invariably caused by failure of the Vacuum actuator in the SAI unit. Due to frequent movement the rubber skirt ,bonded to the Fresh Air plunger , the skirt and plunger separate and SAI no longer works. This leads to the Popping sound in Exhaust....If you are DIY then you can open the unit and stick the rubber skirt back with Fewi-Quick .... The unit is bolted to chassis under the Petrol tank on the gear shifter side..

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                      Thanks PSR sir. The mech didn't touch the SAI unit since it was evening and getting dark yesterday. However, he has slightly loosened the tappets and asked me to monitor differences. If it doesn't help, we'll check out the actuator. Will update you.

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                      • #16331
                        Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                        Originally posted by PTushar View Post
                        Thanks PSR sir. The mech didn't touch the SAI unit since it was evening and getting dark yesterday. However, he has slightly loosened the tappets and asked me to monitor differences. If it doesn't help, we'll check out the actuator. Will update you.
                        You can check SAI unit working by temporarily disabling SAI ,.... by removing the SAI inlet which is connected to the AIR BOX ( Part No 6 in Pict )and put a tight rubber plug to close either the Air Box outlet or the SAI inlet tube and then check.If you are closing the SAI unit inlet tube, Remember to close the Air Box tube also, otherwise dust will get in to the Air Box
                        Remember the SAI unit is there to keep the Pollution under control, and removing/or bypassing will increase the Exhaust Pollution level...
                        When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                        • #16332
                          Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                          Originally posted by psr View Post
                          You can check SAI unit working by temporarily disabling SAI ,.... by removing the SAI inlet which is connected to the AIR BOX ( Part No 6 in Pict )and put a tight rubber plug to close either the Air Box outlet or the SAI inlet tube and then check.If you are closing the SAI unit inlet tube, Remember to close the Air Box tube also, otherwise dust will get in to the Air Box
                          Remember the SAI unit is there to keep the Pollution under control, and removing/or bypassing will increase the Exhaust Pollution level...
                          Hello PSR sir,

                          Checked by closing the SAI inlet as well as bypassing the SAI to the engine, the popping sound still appears. Also checked the plunger and rubber valve, it is intact and operating very well. However, after loosing the tappets, the popping sound somewhat reduced but not gone completely. The air filter is also recently changed. Probably my zma gotta live with it, hope she does not create any harm to my pocket in future.
                          Any more inputs from you are welcome. Thanks for your prompt help.

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                          • #16333
                            Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                            Hi Guys,

                            Having a problem in my ZMA. Its 8K Kms, 8 month old now, done 4 free service.
                            For last 2-3 days bike is jerking/missing for a moment on accelerating and while shifting gears upward.
                            Bike is also not pulling smoothly.
                            There is no jerking/missing while riding at constant speed.
                            Checked with SC today, mechanic first changed the spark plug but problem persist, now he is saying he has to check wiring.
                            I am assuming carburretor or petrol quality issue.
                            Pl help.

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                            • #16334
                              Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                              Originally posted by ankit.traveller View Post
                              Hi Guys,

                              Having a problem in my ZMA. Its 8K Kms, 8 month old now, done 4 free service.
                              For last 2-3 days bike is jerking/missing for a moment on accelerating and while shifting gears upward.
                              Bike is also not pulling smoothly.
                              There is no jerking/missing while riding at constant speed.
                              Checked with SC today, mechanic first changed the spark plug but problem persist, now he is saying he has to check wiring.
                              I am assuming carburretor or petrol quality issue.
                              Pl help.
                              Check for Carb slide free movement...Does your bike go above 60 Kmph on top gear ?if engine struggles to accelerate beyond 5 K RPM on top gear, then suspect throttle slide stuck...otherwise check for adulterated Petrol or Water in Petrol...

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                              Originally posted by PTushar View Post
                              Hello PSR sir,

                              Checked by closing the SAI inlet as well as bypassing the SAI to the engine, the popping sound still appears. Also checked the plunger and rubber valve, it is intact and operating very well. However, after loosing the tappets, the popping sound somewhat reduced but not gone completely. The air filter is also recently changed. Probably my zma gotta live with it, hope she does not create any harm to my pocket in future.
                              Any more inputs from you are welcome. Thanks for your prompt help.
                              If the engine is running very lean then this problem is likely to occur...though invariably it is the SAI unit malfunction 98% of the time. I have no clue what else may be the problem, since I am doing remote trouble shooting....
                              Good Luck...
                              When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                              • #16335
                                Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                                Originally posted by PTushar View Post
                                Hello PSR sir,

                                Checked by closing the SAI inlet as well as bypassing the SAI to the engine, the popping sound still appears. Also checked the plunger and rubber valve, it is intact and operating very well. However, after loosing the tappets, the popping sound somewhat reduced but not gone completely. The air filter is also recently changed. Probably my zma gotta live with it, hope she does not create any harm to my pocket in future.
                                Any more inputs from you are welcome. Thanks for your prompt help.
                                Clean up the fuel tank and drain carb.. try with fresh fuel from a different bunk. And as i mentioned you can also slightly richen the mixture by 1/4th turns and lastly replace the exhaust gasket and check.
                                If its not the SAI , its probably one of these.. not expensive but just need to spend a little time to do them one by one and check

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