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  • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

    Originally posted by Rajarshi View Post
    Thanks Divya..

    Howz the feedback of Apache RTR pads ..?
    I stay at BTM... for service i put my bike to Sri SaiRam Motors..(opposite to Gopalan Mall Banerghatta Rd.)
    Any other good & reliable service centers or mechanic in your knowledge ??
    a other alternative would be this brake pad from bachoo motors suggested by PSR

    Gold Fren 106 - Bachoo Motors

    got it for rs 1750 including deliver charges. the brake feel is good and stopping power is good. they worn out at 8k kms. i had ninja 250 pads in the past. the brakes were a different world but they lasted only for 6k kms.

    I am facing a issue. my bike has covered 80,000 kms. as i was riding the bike only in the city where i rarely take it past 4k rpm. now when i was out a on a highway trip, when i rode the bike between 4k and 5k rpm, the bike would stall like the fuel in not flowing or like a rev limiter cutting the accelration. there was lot of hiccups between 4k and 5k rpm, they were none below 4000 and above 5000 rpm. also when i slow down from high speed and when the rev falls in the 4k to 5k range, the hiccup is very huge and it take time to pick up speed.

    when i checked with few mechanics, they said cd unit is the problem. checked by connecting a ammeter. there was nothing such that. the electricals were checked.
    also the show room in the home town worked on the bike and said and checked everything.still the problem is there. carb and air filter cleand and everything was done.

    some said since the bike is 80,000 old it's time for engine works. but there is no smoke or any strange nosies or lack of accelration. the bike runs strong and returns a mileage that a karizma would return.

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    • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

      Originally posted by pravinan View Post
      a other alternative would be this brake pad from bachoo motors suggested by PSR

      Gold Fren 106 - Bachoo Motors

      got it for rs 1750 including deliver charges. the brake feel is good and stopping power is good. they worn out at 8k kms. i had ninja 250 pads in the past. the brakes were a different world but they lasted only for 6k kms.

      I am facing a issue. my bike has covered 80,000 kms. as i was riding the bike only in the city where i rarely take it past 4k rpm. now when i was out a on a highway trip, when i rode the bike between 4k and 5k rpm, the bike would stall like the fuel in not flowing or like a rev limiter cutting the accelration. there was lot of hiccups between 4k and 5k rpm, they were none below 4000 and above 5000 rpm. also when i slow down from high speed and when the rev falls in the 4k to 5k range, the hiccup is very huge and it take time to pick up speed.

      when i checked with few mechanics, they said cd unit is the problem. checked by connecting a ammeter. there was nothing such that. the electricals were checked.
      also the show room in the home town worked on the bike and said and checked everything.still the problem is there. carb and air filter cleand and everything was done.

      some said since the bike is 80,000 old it's time for engine works. but there is no smoke or any strange nosies or lack of accelration. the bike runs strong and returns a mileage that a karizma would return.
      ok bro before i give you what my guess could be ..can u please tell me about this issue in detail.like do u get this problem during the morning or when your bike is cold or only when the bike has ran a 5-10kms when the engine is hot ? . another question is do u feel a tak tak sort of metallic sound when u try reving your bike in lower gear during a speed beaker or any slow down pick up time when your engine is hot....

      ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
      What is the ODO reading? Possibly the camshaft. Make it a habit to get the tappets (valve clearance) adjusted every 6-8k km.
      Also, do not lug the engine (high gear at low rpm).
      hi thanks for your advice bro. the bike ran a 37k.as per your advice i took it again to the ASC , the mechanic there opened the engine head and inspected the camshaft,arms ,valves and found the valves one being in white color and other having a lot of carbon deposit on it. so he told me to get a pair of valves .i got them replaced and he did some grinding to them . and fixing them both in. he later re fixed the engine back to my bike .

      he tells me to drive the bike few days and put good petrol (which i am totally confused,since all bunks sell the same standard ) . hoping to not get it back.. will surely revert about the bikes functioning after a few days ... thanks bye

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      • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

        Originally posted by pravinan View Post
        a other alternative would be this brake pad from bachoo motors suggested by PSR

        Gold Fren 106 - Bachoo Motors

        got it for rs 1750 including deliver charges. the brake feel is good and stopping power is good. they worn out at 8k kms. i had ninja 250 pads in the past. the brakes were a different world but they lasted only for 6k kms.

        I am facing a issue. my bike has covered 80,000 kms. as i was riding the bike only in the city where i rarely take it past 4k rpm. now when i was out a on a highway trip, when i rode the bike between 4k and 5k rpm, the bike would stall like the fuel in not flowing or like a rev limiter cutting the accelration. there was lot of hiccups between 4k and 5k rpm, they were none below 4000 and above 5000 rpm. also when i slow down from high speed and when the rev falls in the 4k to 5k range, the hiccup is very huge and it take time to pick up speed.

        when i checked with few mechanics, they said cd unit is the problem. checked by connecting a ammeter. there was nothing such that. the electricals were checked.
        also the show room in the home town worked on the bike and said and checked everything.still the problem is there. carb and air filter cleand and everything was done.

        some said since the bike is 80,000 old it's time for engine works. but there is no smoke or any strange nosies or lack of accelration. the bike runs strong and returns a mileage that a karizma would return.
        Problem could be as simple as adulterated fuel or water contamination (water inside the petrol tank). Or my assumption is heading towards compression issue since the bike has been ridden under constant rpm regularly (mostly under 4k rpm as mentioned in the post). The last thing I can think of could be bike running lean (again debatable).
        Everybody has their own version of TRUTH!!!!!!

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        • over heated karizma r bike causing a lot of problems !!

          hi brothers.i too got an almost similar problem to what was being discussed in this thread here.

          my bike has no problems during the mornings when i start it starts just with a click of switch and after a minute of engaging my choke lever it gets a lil warm and all ready and set to go.. the pick up ,speed and smoothness is just awesome. But after a ride of say suppose a 10k or more the engine gets very heated up (dont know the reason) and then start the problems:

          1. Major problem- there is a metallic sound coming from the engine (which i think is mostly the crank rod) during my driving in traffic or revving in lower rpms.

          2. Engine gets very hot ...

          3. The pick up,sound of engine ,smooth ness all become worse .. its is as if the bike is indirectly telling me a no ....

          4. The gear box seems to be a harder..

          with regard to this i nearly spent a 2.5 k . i changed my valves,tightned my tappets,checked my piston and it was fine since no white smoke came. Also cleaned my carburetor.. also i asked the mechanic if there is any clutch bell issue he told nothing as such... the important point here is all these occurs as a result of engine being over heated ....

          i am really in a mess and fuzzed at the moment .. Felling very low esteem .. i need help . i stay in hyderabad .9032314437 . Please help me guys .....

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          • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

            Hello People.

            I have finally managed to scratch my 9 year old itch by acquiring a 2004 model Hero Honda Karizma. This is my first motorcycle!!

            I need support from you to maintain and ride responsibly. I am located in Bangalore, Banashankari. Please provide info regarding -
            1. Best mechanic/ service-centre.
            2. Spares and Accessories.
            3. Fuel, Oil, Maintenance improv utilities.

            Thank you all in advance.
            Tejasvi
            Jet. Set. Go.
            game for anything on wheels

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            • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

              Originally posted by pravinan View Post
              I am facing a issue. my bike has covered 80,000 kms. as i was riding the bike only in the city where i rarely take it past 4k rpm. now when i was out a on a highway trip, when i rode the bike between 4k and 5k rpm, the bike would stall like the fuel in not flowing or like a rev limiter cutting the accelration. there was lot of hiccups between 4k and 5k rpm, they were none below 4000 and above 5000 rpm. also when i slow down from high speed and when the rev falls in the 4k to 5k range, the hiccup is very huge and it take time to pick up speed.
              If you had read this thread, you could have identified it as a likely carb slide issue.

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              • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                Chain-Chain Sprocket.
                Tyres.
                Fibre welding.
                Front fork adjustment.
                Brakes - shoe.
                These are the Top 5 concerns that needs to be addressed. Guys please help me with availability and pricing of spares and repair.

                Will post detailed pics soon.
                Attached Files
                game for anything on wheels

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                • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                  Originally posted by zincha View Post
                  Chain-Chain Sprocket.
                  Tyres.
                  Fibre welding.
                  Front fork adjustment.
                  Brakes - shoe.
                  These are the Top 5 concerns that needs to be addressed. Guys please help me with availability and pricing of spares and repair.

                  Will post detailed pics soon.
                  Bro just one point to mention... What ever you do just don't buy any spare parts from Hero, its not worth it.

                  1. Chain sprocket you can get from any store.
                  2. If you want to upsize the rear tyre, then you have to take out the chain cover.
                  3. For fibre welding pls mention which end you require the work to be done.
                  4. Check for any oil leakage, or change the oil.
                  5. Breaks specially this part don't buy it from ASC you can get front brakes for 150/- rear almost same price.

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                  • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                    Originally posted by kety213 View Post
                    Bro just one point to mention... What ever you do just don't buy any spare parts from Hero, its not worth it.
                    Why do you say so?

                    Originally posted by kety213 View Post
                    5. Breaks specially this part don't buy it from ASC you can get front brakes for 150/- rear almost same price.
                    Pros of 150 rupees pads w.r.t 1200 rupees pads:
                    1. VFM.
                    2. Nothing else.

                    Cons of 150 rupees pads w.r.t 1200 rupees pads:
                    1. Reduced braking power (however not by dangerous amounts).
                    2. Scoring of rotors imminent (add Rs 1800 sooner than later for rotor replacement).
                    Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                    Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                    Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                    Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                    ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                    P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                    • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                      I have taken the bike to 2 well known mechanics here in BSK 2nd stage and 3rd stage. I am only aware of the above listed things to be re-conditioned and repaired.
                      Any info on pricing of spares Hero Honda OEM or OE would be fantastic.
                      Divya , please check PM bro!
                      game for anything on wheels

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                      • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                        Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                        Why do you say so?



                        Pros of 150 rupees pads w.r.t 1200 rupees pads:
                        1. VFM.
                        2. Nothing else.

                        Cons of 150 rupees pads w.r.t 1200 rupees pads:
                        1. Reduced braking power (however not by dangerous amounts).
                        2. Scoring of rotors imminent (add Rs 1800 sooner than later for rotor replacement).
                        Yes Divya you are right about the cons. But it all varies from person to person. For me i am using it from long time and my rotor is still pretty good.
                        Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                        Why do you say so?



                        Pros of 150 rupees pads w.r.t 1200 rupees pads:
                        1. VFM.
                        2. Nothing else.

                        Cons of 150 rupees pads w.r.t 1200 rupees pads:
                        1. Reduced braking power (however not by dangerous amounts).
                        2. Scoring of rotors imminent (add Rs 1800 sooner than later for rotor replacement).

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                        • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                          Originally posted by kety213 View Post
                          Yes Divya you are right about the cons. But it all varies from person to person. For me i am using it from long time and my rotor is still pretty good.
                          Hmm, I'd advise you to keep a caliper handy and keep measuring the rotor thickness from time to time. Any less than 3.5 mm at the center of the rotor surface (where pads touch, not the corner which is hardly used by the pads) would warrant change.
                          Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                          Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                          Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                          Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                          ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                          P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                          • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                            Thank you for the advice.
                            Point noted.

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                            • Re: over heated karizma r bike causing a lot of problems !!

                              Originally posted by Lakkakula Ravi Kiran View Post
                              hi brothers.i too got an almost similar problem to what was being discussed in this thread here.

                              my bike has no problems during the mornings when i start it starts just with a click of switch and after a minute of engaging my choke lever it gets a lil warm and all ready and set to go.. the pick up ,speed and smoothness is just awesome. But after a ride of say suppose a 10k or more the engine gets very heated up (dont know the reason) and then start the problems:

                              1. Major problem- there is a metallic sound coming from the engine (which i think is mostly the crank rod) during my driving in traffic or revving in lower rpms.

                              2. Engine gets very hot ...

                              3. The pick up,sound of engine ,smooth ness all become worse .. its is as if the bike is indirectly telling me a no ....

                              4. The gear box seems to be a harder..

                              with regard to this i nearly spent a 2.5 k . i changed my valves,tightned my tappets,checked my piston and it was fine since no white smoke came. Also cleaned my carburetor.. also i asked the mechanic if there is any clutch bell issue he told nothing as such... the important point here is all these occurs as a result of engine being over heated ....

                              i am really in a mess and fuzzed at the moment .. Felling very low esteem .. i need help . i stay in hyderabad .9032314437 . Please help me guys .....
                              hi guys. finally i got the reason for my issue . i managed to get in touch with a famous karizma mechanic and he took a ride on my bike with me on back and immideatly found the metallic sound coming out during rising in low rpms. After the ride he asked me about the petrol i used and i confirmed it is standard petrol .so he told me it a problem coming from the connecting rod and the bushes . he told me generally when the engine when gets hots there is a general metal expansion through out the engine and same is case within the crank so dude to this irregular movement of the crank connecting rod the piston is making this sound and there will be almost no pick up.... he told me he must remove the full engine and check the within and confirm . an estimate of 5k is told by him including his service charges....

                              will update soon with the pictures ..... thanks guys ...

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                              • Gear shift problem

                                Hi All,
                                I have 3 year old Karizma R with 20,000 kms done. Recently I had problems with my gear shifting, it was very hard so took the bike to the mechanic. I wanted to go to some good mechanic so after reading some reviews I approached Ahmad from Bike Guru in Pune and he suggested to change the Clutch plates and other parts of clutch assembly. But even after changing everything the gear shifts are still very hard. I told him about the same and he did some clutch adjusted but it didn't help. Showed the bike to another mechanic who also did minor adjustments but again of no use. The second mechanic also complained that the power output is not upto the mark.

                                I am really confused on what next should I be doing !!

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