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  • @ ACS, nothing FAR fetched about it. One of my friend's electro coil had gone kaput last year. We had to source another one thru a mechanic. Got a second hand from a accident ZMA for Rs.1200. New one costs around 2900 you see
    ***Correct me if I am wrong :)

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    • Originally posted by ZMAtic View Post
      @ ACS, nothing FAR fetched about it. One of my friend's electro coil had gone kaput last year. We had to source another one thru a mechanic. Got a second hand from a accident ZMA for Rs.1200. New one costs around 2900 you see
      What is it that you're replying to ? Is it about the TPS ?
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      • Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
        OK . You fix the TPS at WOT . What happens ? The timing is at one end . Then you adjust the AFR for the normal ride . Means you have to ( most probably ) enrich the AFR ratio . And enriching the ratio does lead to fall in FE ,right ? But then , still , you have an un-obedient student at mid-range . What can you do about that ? I think it brings up more complications than you'll need . Unless you're planning on 'Joel'ing your bike , leave that part alone .
        Yes agreed to some extent
        Reading more on this i have realised that any thing to do with the carb will only make the engine breath more easily and not much gain on the output and that's at the cost of mid-range.

        Though i have not concluded anything here, i might still try it once.
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        • Originally posted by asif View Post
          Yes agreed to some extent
          Reading more on this i have realised that any thing to do with the carb will only make the engine breath more easily and not much gain on the output and that's at the cost of mid-range.

          Though i have not concluded anything here, i might still try it once.
          Please try to understand what a TPS does and what AFR does....The TPS is for varying the Ignition Timing in requirement with throttle position ,while the AFR is for setting the best possible air fuel ratio.
          How can Variable Ignition Timing be compensated ,with Air Fuel Ratio ?
          One is Electronic Control of Ignition TIMING and the other Fuel Metering Control.
          Last edited by psr; 09-15-2011, 03:58 PM.
          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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          • Jet size in karizma, both main and pilot ????
            Down the GEAR and DISAPPEAR

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            • Originally posted by acs1207 View Post

              AFAIK rpm meter is driven electrically . If your odometer display is visible but that and the speedo is not working , it should mean something wrong with the cable . Or the electronics which convert the cable turns to electronic signal might be gone - but I think it's far fetched . Remove the cable at the speedo end and check whether it turns when the front wheel turns . . .

              odo is visible but still, figures not changing; clock and fuel meter working fine. Lets see more, not getting time to open it up

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              • Originally posted by prakhararya View Post
                Jet size in karizma, both main and pilot ????
                Karizma Keihin carburetor main jet 125 pilot jet 35.
                When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                • Originally posted by sunny_ View Post
                  odo is visible but still, figures not changing; clock and fuel meter working fine. Lets see more, not getting time to open it up
                  could be happening due to moisture condensation.
                  When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                  • experts, I face an issue with my 2011 zma. in lower gears say 1&2 when I twist the throttle harshly, I can clearly hear knocking sound from the engine. very soundy and it is annoying. but the sound disappears gradually when the rpm increases and in higher gears. what might be the issue?? I am with the stock settings.
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                    Also, in the play portion, the throttle is not coming back to its initial position on its own. it is like, there is no springy action/response in the play portion of the throttle. dont know which throttle cable went kaput. A or B?? please help guys!?
                    "safety will be the sturdy child of terror, and survival the twin brother of annihilation"

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                    • Originally posted by psr View Post
                      Please try to understand what a TPS does and what AFR does....The TPS is for varying the Ignition Timing in requirement with throttle position ,while the AFR is for setting the best possible air fuel ratio.
                      How will you compensate for Variable Ignition Timing with Air Fuel Ratio ?
                      One is Electronic Control of Ignition TIMING and the other Fuel Metering Control.
                      I understand what TPS does.
                      My question is if the TPS is adjusting ignition timing and in that case if the TPS is set to a WOT position shouldn't it also give a better ignition timing (considering its at WOT).

                      Its only a question.
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                      • Originally posted by psr View Post
                        could be happening due to moisture condensation.
                        Really? Speedo needle also might stop working due to moisture condensation?


                        Squeaking noise, gharr gharr frequently from the disc brake...when not applied or applied slightly(no sound when applied hard), how to check whether it is only due to the dust or mud particles or needs a pad replacement? A slight pulsation is also felt when applied very little.

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                        • Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
                          If your odometer display is visible but that and the speedo is not working , it should mean something wrong with the cable . Or the electronics which convert the cable turns to electronic signal might be gone - but I think it's far fetched . Remove the cable at the speedo end and check whether it turns when the front wheel turns . . .

                          Do that .
                          Was referring to this... This coil like thing sits just below the ODO which connects the cable to odometer.

                          the TPS is hot topic so my reply may have seemed irrelevant
                          ***Correct me if I am wrong :)

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                          • Originally posted by sunny_ View Post
                            Really? Speedo needle also might stop working due to moisture condensation?


                            Squeaking noise, gharr gharr frequently from the disc brake...when not applied or applied slightly(no sound when applied hard), how to check whether it is only due to the dust or mud particles or needs a pad replacement? A slight pulsation is also felt when applied very little.
                            There are grooves on pads which indicate wear .check it,if no grooves are visible than its time to replace the pads.

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                            • Originally posted by sunny_ View Post
                              Really? Speedo needle also might stop working due to moisture condensation?
                              The whole console in Karizma is Electronic,and the Speedo and RPM Meters are motors driven by discrete circuit components.If you go back a few pages, I had removed my console and shown Pics of what it looks like....



                              Squeaking noise, gharr gharr frequently from the disc brake...when not applied or applied slightly(no sound when applied hard), how to check whether it is only due to the dust or mud particles or needs a pad replacement? A slight pulsation is also felt when applied very little.
                              Like @Curse had said there are vertical grooves in the pads both sides..if the grooves are used up and pads are without it,then it is time you changed it...to check for dust, spray water under pressure on to the disc pads and rotate and apply disc brake a few times.Repeat the water jet cleaning two times and see...A slight pulsation on the brake lever denotes a warped(bent) Disc.
                              repliws in bold.
                              Last edited by psr; 09-15-2011, 06:56 PM.
                              When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                              • @psr Sir, thank you very much
                                @Curse, thanks

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