Disconnect the TPS in ZMA and find out for yourself.> There are three wires from ZMA TPS and connects through a connector under Petrol tank
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Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View PostOriginally posted by asif View PostOriginally posted by Vishakh View PostI had taken the pain to write about a loose contact problem in my ZMA TPS ,and how I found,what effect it had....Please go back a few pages and see.Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
Disconnect the TPS in ZMA and find out for yourself.> There are three wires from ZMA TPS and connects through a connector under Petrol tankLast edited by psr; 09-12-2011, 06:03 PM.When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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Hehe,Now i remember the effects.Originally posted by psr View PostI had taken the pain to write about a loose contact problem in my ZMA TPS ,and how I found,what effect it had....Please go back a few pages and see.
Disconnect the TPS in ZMA and find out for yourself.

Went to svc to enquire about parts,everything is out of stock,So will be ordering parts,and today found that 2011 Karizma-R electricals sockets are different from the older Karizma-R model,So I cannot use 2011 Karizma-R's Ignition key in my Karizma,I have to buy the older Karizma-R's ignition key.
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sir saw your posts related to loose contact of TPSOriginally posted by psr View PostI had taken the pain to write about a loose contact problem in my ZMA TPS ,and how I found,what effect it had....Please go back a few pages and see.
Disconnect the TPS in ZMA and find out for yourself.> There are three wires from ZMA TPS and connects through a connector under Petrol tank
. But is there any advantages disconnecting the TPS even if there is no problem with it? Aneesh posted about the increase in mileage, anything other than that? Also want to know the disadvantages as well
. From the posts here i think disconnecting it is a bit complex and technical job for me
so dont want to take a risk on fiddling with the TPS
Last edited by Vishakh; 09-12-2011, 06:18 PM.Cheetahs are faster but the lion is still the KING
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Was unable to find your post @PSR.Originally posted by psr View PostI had taken the pain to write about a loose contact problem in my ZMA TPS ,and how I found,what effect it had....Please go back a few pages and see.
Disconnect the TPS in ZMA and find out for yourself.> There are three wires from ZMA TPS and connects through a connector under Petrol tank
Haven't till date tried doing this, but will shortly try it cause i see no harm being done.
Also read someone on the forum had upgraded the carb on the ZMA and in that case he would have had to take care of the TPS also. In that case how were the connectors matched and the TPS still retained.

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The TPS in Karizma is continuously variable , unlike in other bikes like Pulsar..This means the ignition timing is linear and not in steps,and removing will make the bike run very poor...Try it and find out for yourself..
When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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I think guys here are confusing TPFC with TPS.
AFAIK.
TPFC's an additional cable going from the throttle to the carb, its job is to activate the choke according to throttle position. Its present is CBZ classic, to disable you'll have to remove the plastic carb cover on the side and then remove the TPFC cable from the holder/tensioner.
TPS's present on ZMA's that varies the spark intensity based on the throttle position, I havent yet tried to disable it, so am not sure how to.
After effects, after disabling.
TPFC - Mileage increase of upto 50%(sounds crazy but thats how much the original poster of this mod claimed. but from an old friends practical experience theres a 25% gain in mileage.) Not much difference in acceleration and surprisingly the bike'll be abit vibe free at higher rpm's. Almost every CBZ owner I know's had his disabled either due to mileage issues or due to the rpm issue.
TPS - Not much info on the above, cause I've not tried it. But theoretically disabling this'll give comparatively less mileage and you'll loose the ROCKET part of ZMA that comes after 4.5~5k. Psr sir, correct me if im wrong.Motorcycling Experience:
2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!
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Yeah. I too have Nissin written at the bottom. But Vaishaks and Jerin bro's bikes have it written at the front of the cylinder and by front I mean, if you stand in front of the bike you'll be able to see it.Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View PostNot 2011 model though,i have it below the Fluid Tank,Have a look at the picture taken from the bottom.
@ Ashwin
Why is it fake?
BTW I've also got an 'N' with a circle around it on top of the cylinder, wher the instructions are written.
@Sriram - Sir, please post a pic of your's.Motorcycling Experience:
2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!
The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
Adios Comrades!
A.P. 2018
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replies in boldOriginally posted by ashwinprakas View PostI think guys here are confusing TPFC with TPS.
AFAIK.
Absolutely Correct
TPFC's an additional cable going from the throttle to the carb, its job is to activate the choke according to throttle position. Its present is CBZ classic, to disable you'll have to remove the plastic carb cover on the side and then remove the TPFC cable from the holder/tensioner.
It acts more like the cold choke,or accelerator pump,so disconnecting it will save Petrol.
TPS's present on ZMA's that varies the spark intensity based on the throttle position, I havent yet tried to disable it, so am not sure how to.
The ZMA TPS does not vary spark intensity, but where it occurs during Crank rotation and hence Piston's relative position Before Top Dead Center..ie., Ignition Timing
TPS - Not much info on the above, cause I've not tried it. But theoretically disabling this'll give comparatively less mileage and you'll loose the ROCKET part of ZMA that comes after 4.5~5k. Psr sir, correct me if im wrong.
Yes you are correct...ZMA will loose mid to high pull if TPS is disconnected...When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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Wow!!! Can'nt believe im right.... Sir, guess am not a bad student after allOriginally posted by psr View Postreplies in bold
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And sir, My bike's recently been producing the chil-chil sound when hot, I believe its not the tensioner since I've had it replaced @ 2k.(Now completed 4k)
The SVC guys after their 2sec examination said it was valve noise and said they'll clear it at next service. I dont know why, but I believe they said so to shoo me off...
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So sir, is valve noise harmfull??? And can you give me a differential diagnosis if any????
Motorcycling Experience:
2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!
The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
Adios Comrades!
A.P. 2018
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It is the tappet noise..It occurs on engine which are young and when the engine is ripped for long periods of time.Originally posted by ashwinprakas View PostWow!!! Can'nt believe im right.... Sir, guess am not a bad student after all
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And sir, My bike's recently been producing the chil-chil sound when hot, I believe its not the tensioner since I've had it replaced @ 2k.(Now completed 4k)
The SVC guys after their 2sec examination said it was valve noise and said they'll clear it at next service. I dont know why, but I believe they said so to shoo me off...
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So sir, is valve noise harmfull??? And can you give me a differential diagnosis if any????
When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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Oh..."Engines which are young" meaning that it'll go away eventually. RightOriginally posted by psr View PostIt is the tappet noise..It occurs on engine which are young and when the engine is ripped for long periods of time.
Guess that's why Aneesh's bro said that it'll go away after a while.
Motorcycling Experience:
2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!
The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
Adios Comrades!
A.P. 2018
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Yes by young I meant New engines..but the noise cannot go away permanently...even in older bikes ,an occasional hard ripping can bring the noise back...so be gentle with your acceleration and timely change of engine oil...Originally posted by ashwinprakas View PostOh..."Engines which are young" meaning that it'll go away eventually. Right
Guess that's why Aneesh's bro said that it'll go away after a while.
When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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Guess I'll ignore it then.. And just to quench my curiosity.Originally posted by psr View PostYes by young I meant New engines..but the noise cannot go away permanently...even in older bikes ,an occasional hard ripping can bring the noise back...so be gentle with your acceleration and timely change of engine oil...
Sir, can you tell me what causes valve noise?? And what are its after effects too...
Motorcycling Experience:
2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!
The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
Adios Comrades!
A.P. 2018
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I do have NISSIN embossed on the side wall near front brake lever of my 2011 zma same as in a pic posted by Aneesh!!Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View PostNot 2011 model though,i have it below the Fluid Tank,Have a look at the picture taken from the bottom.

@ Ashwin
Why is it fake?
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but my bike is younger than ashwin's but no such problem and when i compared the engine sound to a 1.5k km old zma of my friend's my engine was making a deeper growl where as his was a bit pitchy guess its because of oil (20w 40 thanks to PSR sir and other experts hereOriginally posted by psr View PostIt is the tappet noise..It occurs on engine which are young and when the engine is ripped for long periods of time.
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And i met ashwin yesterday and i think the bike was making noise like that not because of ripping, i strongly feels like its wrong valve setting not sure though
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