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  • Originally posted by te05 View Post
    Hi,
    Despite being an old member, I've hardly expressed myself on this lovely forum, while regularly browsing through the 'talkies'.

    I own a 2006 zma that has clocked 35K. Hardly using it for my daily commute to office for a long time now. I've been living with a long list of issues.

    Before I list down, I must let know here that during all my long rides, these issues hardly bother me, only for the fuel consumption - just 25kmpl(It used to be better earlier despite all the ripping sessions)

    Yesterday, I rode out to the market and was mightily pissed! and now I'm forced to write

    I've been trying to figure out the cause of all these issues with my humble mechanic, but in vain...

    1. Idling not constant - The idling has a lot of variation and many times the bike stalls suddenly while running on decent idle speeds(on all of the signals). I have not been able to identify a typical pattern when the engine stall during idling.
    Note that I make sure the engine is warmed for a couple of minutes before I ride.

    2. During a cold start, when the choke is used, the bike runs either with the choke completely ON or me throttling the accelerator.
    I mean, using choke while warming - say, decreasing the choke from ON or increasing the choke from OFF, has to be done instantly, like a switch - either ON or OFF, else the engine stalls halfway.

    3. All the revs below ~5K RPM sticks and the revs do not come down normally on deceleration. This, however, does not happen and the revs come down perfectly for anything above about 5K.

    4. Yesterday, after driving in the traffic, I sensed that there is a lot of jerking at slow speeds even with correct gear shifting. eg., even in first gear, the acceleration is not smooth and with a lot sudden jerks - add to it the very sticky revs not coming down.


    None of these issues are noticeable post 5K rpm.
    I'm not sure if all the issues here point at one single culprit or multiple sources.

    My mechanic has failed badly for a long time to identify the source for this issue. I tried ASC also, but I always knew they wouldn't be able to resolve and I was right.
    The carburetor was cleaned repeatedly and tuned but to no avail. We looked for air leaks - the insulator with the O-ring has been replaced.
    I'm always suspecting that there is some leak that has not been fixed due to which the engine should be running very lean - the cause of sticking revs.
    I'm contemplating on replacing the carb as a solution, but have still held on and not changed.
    My mechanic says it could be either of the carburetor or some electrical issue that is going unnoticed.

    One last, but important thing - The air-screw of carburetor was jammed a couple of years ago and was opened up by drilling and replaced. First, I felt the issue is because of tuning and got the air screw removed. Later any kind of tuning of the air screw has not helped, and I have sealed it with RTV Silcone sealant(Anabond 666T) in despair and that has not changed anything...

    Help me please


    Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
    You have not posted the performance of the bike . The speed of the bike in various gears at various RPMs would've been helpful . Also what's the current mileage ?
    I'm guessing that post 5k rpm it'll be WOT and regulated AFR doesn't play a part . If that's so then the prob should lie somewhere around the carb section . Look for air leaks - broken/disconnected pipes/tubes etc. Also check the spark plug .
    I'm not an expert in this section - so I'll wait with you to get result oriented replies .
    I will have to check the speeds in various gears at different rpms, can't recollect. Anything specific to look for? I will note down and let know.
    Correct, all the problems are below 5K RPM. Spark plug has been replaced and new.
    Any specific pipes that I should be looking at? Like I said, the insulator has been replaced.
    On highways, I'm mostly at the upper RPMs and am getting a figure of not more than 25kmpl.
    City riding should improve that by 3-4 is my guess, not checked though.
    Earlier, it was around 40 in the city and 30s on the highway.

    About performance, below 4.5k is jerky and sluggish, above that, tops at ~128



    Originally posted by psr View Post
    If You had removed the air screw please put it back with the "O"ring and set it to 3.5 turns anticlockwise from fully clockwise stop....go through the thread,and you will find the solution...
    PSR, I mean that the airscrew was opened up in first place because the mechanic said it was jammed and that caused the issue.
    Yes, after the air screw was drilled and removed, it was replaced with a new one. I'm not very certain on the 'O-ring' part though as it was a long time ago.
    Thanks, I will look out for a solution on the thread.
    Looking into the ocean, its very interesting and a whole new learning experiences.
    If you remember any post that could help me in specific, please direct me. Meanwhile I continue my search

    Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
    But he said he'd sealed the air screw spot . That's why I didn't mention it .

    And as psr sir said , the answer is in the thread - it's been discussed and has been successfully trouble-shooted .
    Yes, presently, I have it at 3 turns and sealed it, but to no avail.


    I'll try to check for leaks, lets see if I hit upon anything.
    Should I look also be looking from the electricals point of view?

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    • Karizma Rear Tire Change!!

      I want to change the rear tire of Karizma-R.
      Right now its MRF Zapper with 100/90-18...but it skids as its not wide enough while applying brakes.
      I want to change it to 110/90 -18 on MRF....Do i need to do any alteration to the rim or anything else while replacing the tires?
      how is the dip in FE when the tire width change is just 10?

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      • Just for information's sake.

        CRF230F Instruction Manual.
        Motorcycling Experience:
        2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
        2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
        2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
        2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
        2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
        2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

        The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
        Adios Comrades!
        A.P. 2018

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        • Originally posted by abhilash17 View Post
          I want to change the rear tire of Karizma-R.
          Right now its MRF Zapper with 100/90-18...but it skids as its not wide enough while applying brakes.
          I want to change it to 110/90 -18 on MRF....Do i need to do any alteration to the rim or anything else while replacing the tires?
          how is the dip in FE when the tire width change is just 10?

          approved and merged.
          (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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          • Originally posted by sunilg View Post

            approved and merged.
            Any tire will lock and skid if only rear brakes are used for stopping.
            Front brakes must be used more than the rear brakes.
            For proper braking procedure pls refer


            Regarding Tire replacement : Other experienced members will help you out.
            Last edited by shoeb2015; 01-17-2012, 02:50 PM.

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            • is it going to Fit?

              My ZMA's Right Side Rear View Mirror broke 5 days back.
              Its getting really tough for me to drive without the RVM's, as I am totally used to them.
              The RVM is not available to the Hero distributor and to the showroom from where I bought the bike. They are not sure when they will get it from Hero.

              Now I thinking of replacing the RVM of Apache to the ZMA's stock one.
              Problem is, I dont know whether it will fit on current ZMA lever assembly or not?

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              • Originally posted by Vijay1911 View Post
                My ZMA's Right Side Rear View Mirror broke 5 days back.
                Its getting really tough for me to drive without the RVM's, as I am totally used to them.
                The RVM is not available to the Hero distributor and to the showroom from where I bought the bike. They are not sure when they will get it from Hero.

                Now I thinking of replacing the RVM of Apache to the ZMA's stock one.
                Problem is, I dont know whether it will fit on current ZMA lever assembly or not?
                Honda Unicorn's should be compatible. Check!
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                • Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                  Honda Unicorn's should be compatible. Check!
                  Originally posted by Vijay1911 View Post
                  My ZMA's Right Side Rear View Mirror broke 5 days back.Now I thinking of replacing the RVM of Apache to the ZMA's stock one.
                  I am using Dazzlers mirror in my ZMA.
                  Cost:275RS for a pair.

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                  • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                    I am using Dazzlers mirror in my ZMA.
                    Cost:275RS for a pair.


                    Thanks a ton buddy! will head for Honda's showroom in few minutes...

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                    • Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                      Honda Unicorn's should be compatible. Check!

                      Thank you!!! ... will go for it then.

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                      • Got pair of RVM's from Honda which was used in earlier versions of Unicorn, as here Honda too was out of stock for new RVM's of Unicorn. It looks similar to the stock RVM's fof ZMA. Priced Rs. 252.

                        Kam se Kam ab piche se kaun aa raha hai woh thik se dikhega
                        Last edited by Vijay1911; 01-17-2012, 10:51 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by Vijay1911 View Post
                          Got pair of RVM's from Honda which was used in earlier versions of Unicorn, as here Honda too was out of stock for new RVM's of Unicorn. It looks similar to the stock RVM's fof ZMA. Priced Rs. 252.

                          Kam se Kam ab piche se kaun aa raha hai woh thik se dikhega
                          Good work!
                          Is the visibility range increased?

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                          • A problem with my ZMA-R. The odo/fuel meter resets continuously on application of brake/switching on headlight. The self start does not work. However, the bike itself runs fine (when started via kick). Does this point to a loose connection at battery terminal , fuse shorted or something else I need to check?

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                            • i have problem in my bike, the front of bike is no noisy the side panels and including head light was changed some days ago but the sound all comes...
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                              Search for the truth and you will find
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                              • Originally posted by jayaramk1983 View Post
                                A problem with my ZMA-R. The odo/fuel meter resets continuously on application of brake/switching on headlight. The self start does not work. However, the bike itself runs fine (when started via kick). Does this point to a loose connection at battery terminal , fuse shorted or something else I need to check?
                                yea same thing happened with me too the trip the watch all get reset when i self start.. but the problem got solved when i charged my battery..
                                i dont think there is problem with the fuse as if it would be with it odo/fuel meter wont show up,
                                so charge your battery or check the water level in it..
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                                *Well everybody would you focus your mind
                                Search for the truth and you will find
                                Good spirit and strength from within
                                That fights against all sin*

                                Jai Om Numah Shivaya

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