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**Prakritij** · 02-26-2010, 07:01 PM

hi!

hello brothers of XBhp,
this is my first post in this thread. Read all the 86x pages of it.
I'm planning of buying the R15 within 3-4 months' time GOD willing

In this thread, someone mentioned that the bike's engines are now made locally instead of importing from Indonesia. My query is : if the engines are locally made, why hasn't the price of the bike reduced as there will be no import taxes and customs?
P.S.: hope this is not an O.T.

**svjhonda** · 02-26-2010, 07:29 PM

^No, not an OT.

If the engine's are being made in India, Yamaha must be making profits. Nice ones...

**jd666** · 02-26-2010, 07:59 PM

@akhilmuraldhar - get your bike checked. i believe there are some bikes which get issues of not adequate oil flow to the head, Which causes the bike to overheat.

**Prakritij** · 02-26-2010, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by svjhonda View Post

^No, not an OT.

If the engine's are being made in India, Yamaha must be making profits. Nice ones...

That must be it.....but I think its not a good move by Yamaha.

**Addy43** · 02-26-2010, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Prakritij View Post

That must be it.....but I think its not a good move by Yamaha.

Ya i too heard this same line by my friend..

BUT NEVER KNOW HOW FAR ARE THEY AUTHENTIC

**abhimanyu31** · 02-27-2010, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by jd666 View Post

@akhilmuraldhar - get your bike checked. i believe there are some bikes which get issues of not adequate oil flow to the head, Which causes the bike to overheat.

Hence, higher viscosity oil will compound the problem.

Originally posted by akhilmuraleedhar View Post

the over heating problem seems to have started all over again....................... i started the bike the engine felt rough. after a couple of kms the petrol tank started feeling hot as before. i am set for a trip tomorrow morning.

Once again I will ask you the same idiot question (that you didn't answer the last time); does the temp idiot light come on?

**abhimanyu31** · 02-27-2010, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by GP_freak View Post

Two special head screws are what holding the lock assy. You unscrew them, then your side lock is open. Then you can short the wires.

So how do we secure our bikes??? Any ideas??? I have a disc lock which I use every night at home. But it is too heavy to carry around.

**abhimanyu31** · 02-27-2010, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by Prakritij View Post

My query is : if the engines are locally made, why hasn't the price of the bike reduced as there will be no import taxes and customs?
P.S.: hope this is not an O.T.

The reason why the prices are not coming down has nothing to do with Yamaha pocketing any savings. India and Indonesia have a free trade agreement. The only savings will be in terms of labor of assembly of engine and I personally doubt that there will be any savings in labor. Remember Indonesia has plenty of cheap labor. Most if not all of the parts will be still imported. The volumes are too low to justify building and duplicating the vendor/supplier base over here for the same parts that are currently being made in volumes in Indonesia and Malaysia.

All of this is assuming that the engine is now being assembled in India. Yamaha has said nothing to that effect till date and the volumes of R15 have not dramatically increased to justify a move to local assembly of the same.

**Amrit** · 02-27-2010, 01:44 AM

Originally posted by Hersch View Post

Hi to all fellow riders! I am a new xBHPian and a big biking enthusiast. Having gone through a lot of blogs on this platform, I like the spirit of camaraderie and respect the fellow xBHPians have for each other. My cheers to all! This is actually my first post here and I am really excited about becoming a part of the community.

Born and brought up in Delhi, I have been biking for over 11 years now and have visited quite a few places on different machines that I've rode all through these years. The machines I have owned include a 2001 CBZ (Black), a 2004 Karizma (Black), a Bullet Electra (Red with loads of chrome), and my most recent buy - the 2009 Yamaha R15 (Yamaha Blue). I never realized that my latest purchase would also become my most eventful purchase ever. So here I am, sharing the experience with you all.

I bought my R15 on the Sunday preceding Diwali last year from a company owned and operated Yamaha showroom at Select City Walk, Saket in Delhi. With Diwali approaching, this was the best way my folks could treat me, gifting me something that I loved the most - a good bike, in this case a Yamaha R15. Excited to the core, I rode my machine back home with the people actually turning back heads to watch me ride my gorgeous piece of contraption. I couldn't sleep the entire night out of sheer excitement waiting for the sun to rise and getting ready to take her for a ride. I woke up and took my baby to work to show it to a couple of my friends who were equally eager to catch a glimpse.

Upon further interrogation, the two thieves gave whereabouts of several other vehicles they had stolen. Numerous video clips of them performing stunts on stolen vehicles were also recovered from their cell phones. And yes, they had some of the really expensive cell phones with them. In total, the police recovered 16 stolen motorcycles from them some of which were parked in really desolate places on Gurgaon-Faridabad road. There was an article on page four of The Times of India too about this entire incident. I was happy that I caught thieves and more than that, I was happy that I got my new baby back.

Happy Riding!

Phew!!!! I could imagine as while reading i was like .... no what!! now what!!
Great.....
Phaadoo work yaar.
Happy & peaceful riding...

**akhilmuraleedhar** · 02-27-2010, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post

Hence, higher viscosity oil will compound the problem.

Once again I will ask you the same idiot question (that you didn't answer the last time); does the temp idiot light come on?

no.no.no.no.no.no light has come up. happy?i do not suspect motul. the yamalube i was using was also 15w50.the problem started when the yamalube was in use. one reason i shifted to motul is overheating. does any of motul 15w50 uses ever experienced such problems?i think jd666 uses motul. did you had any such problems man?

**praveenrdesai** · 02-27-2010, 09:58 AM

Problem with engine heating up in Heavy Traffic

Hello all,
I have experienced a problem with Yamaha R15 of mine ... I did not use the bike for a week and then rode on it from my home to office. My home is at Vijayanagar and my office is in ITPL(White Field) ...

Forward journey was fine.. but while returning, the YELLOW light(engine heat up signal) turned on. There was terrible traffic on the way back, and I had to travel in 1st gear / 2nd gear for the most part. The engine had heated up big time. I thought I should allow it cool down. I waited until the yellow warning light went off. I reached home somehow. One day later, I again went to work and while coming back, I experienced the same problem.

This time, the electric start went for a toss... no warning lights,.. the entire console was off... I had to push down and start the vehicle in 1st gear.

Did any of you guys had similar problem with BIKE? Please share your thoughts .. I am going to Orion motors (kormangala) on this sat to get this fixed.

Cheers !
Praveen (Bangalore)

**jd666** · 02-27-2010, 10:02 AM

^^ could be overheating.

@akhil - no issues with motul man.

Please get your bike checked for adequate oil flow to the head of the engine.

**Prakritij** · 02-27-2010, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post

The reason why the prices are not coming down has nothing to do with Yamaha pocketing any savings. India and Indonesia have a free trade agreement. The only savings will be in terms of labor of assembly of engine and I personally doubt that there will be any savings in labor. Remember Indonesia has plenty of cheap labor. Most if not all of the parts will be still imported. The volumes are too low to justify building and duplicating the vendor/supplier base over here for the same parts that are currently being made in volumes in Indonesia and Malaysia.

All of this is assuming that the engine is now being assembled in India. Yamaha has said nothing to that effect till date and the volumes of R15 have not dramatically increased to justify a move to local assembly of the same.

Thank you brother for clearing my doubt:-)

**akhilmuraleedhar** · 02-27-2010, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by praveenrdesai View Post

Hello all,
I have experienced a problem with Yamaha R15 of mine ... I did not use the bike for a week and then rode on it from my home to office. My home is at Vijayanagar and my office is in ITPL(White Field) ...

Forward journey was fine.. but while returning, the YELLOW light(engine heat up signal) turned on. There was terrible traffic on the way back, and I had to travel in 1st gear / 2nd gear for the most part. The engine had heated up big time. I thought I should allow it cool down. I waited until the yellow warning light went off. I reached home somehow. One day later, I again went to work and while coming back, I experienced the same problem.

This time, the electric start went for a toss... no warning lights,.. the entire console was off... I had to push down and start the vehicle in 1st gear.

Did any of you guys had similar problem with BIKE? Please share your thoughts .. I am going to Orion motors (kormangala) on this sat to get this fixed.

Cheers !
Praveen (Bangalore)

yes i have problem with over heating of late. go a few pages back and read my posts and the replies i got in this thread. a week of no use and a flurry of problems!i am planning to do an m.tech in iit-m. then i ll have to leave it back for months . what would happen then. will the bike explode or something?the over heating problem is getting common now. praveen i think we need to keep in touch till the problem gets done. please give me a pm if orion corrects the problem. my svc is all confused as to what to do.

**abhimanyu31** · 02-27-2010, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by akhilmuraleedhar View Post

no.no.no.no.no.no light has come up. happy?i do not suspect motul. the yamalube i was using was also 15w50.the problem started when the yamalube was in use. one reason i shifted to motul is overheating. does any of motul 15w50 uses ever experienced such problems?i think jd666 uses motul. did you had any such problems man?

Ok. Relax, didn't mean to rattle your cage man. If the light comes on within 5 mins of your starting to ride you have serious cooling system problems. I would suggest that you take it to the service center and insist that they open up the bike right in front of you. Mind you, it may take the whole day, therefore go early and sit on their heads. Don't take their word for it that they will check everything, insist on being there and knowing what is wrong with the bike. If I recall, they didn't give you any explanation last time. Also once your bike overheats, it is advisable to change the oil, even thought it may look good.

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