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**svjhonda** · 08-31-2010, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by Parth View Post

Lol running train!! :P......maybe they should've used an R15 in burning train

Originally posted by ezy_rider View Post

Parth.... We had discussed about i had an accident last week. I need to change the Outer panel with R15 decal, the inside panel with grill on it and the front headlight cowl. My bike is Yellow color. You have mentioned the Price of the parts. Need to clarify it one more time. So please

Approximation:
Outer panel (with R15 decal): 500
Inner panel: 300+
Front cowl: 700

**painreloaded** · 08-31-2010, 11:19 PM

It can easily beat the running train as most of the trains run at 80-90 kmph...

**sheelpriye** · 08-31-2010, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by Nilay View Post

as far as rear is concern, I am not fool to use only front break. I used both the break. It is not the same time but alternatively. It is the technique in which you have to entered the corner with fast speed with some angle so that u can easily overtake the person front of you. This practice is strictly limited to Race track though i am not a track rider but an engineer.

Nilay, for your safety, I would advise you to go through the link which I am posting below, shall be of help to you.

xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/art-safe-riding/10780-braking.html

How to increase rear wheel traction? Better Braking - Motoroids Forums

Originally posted by painreloaded View Post

It can easily beat the running train as most of the trains run at 80-90 kmph...

Trains top out at 110kmph as per R15's speedo. Have raced with one for over 30kms, over 110, i used to gain, below 105, I could see more than the engine.

Originally posted by Nilay View Post

Ok.....then tell me why the Kawasaki Ninja 250 beat the R15 on track while the it has the wheelbase of 1400mm (R15=1290mm) even longer than the Royal Enfield bikes......I am asking Why.....??

Can't believe such a question can be asked?

Do you believe the 250R beat the R15 just because of a longer wheelbase? wow, you are not serious are you?
If this would be the case, 'busa would be beating the crap outta 600's on a race-track, which isn't the case.
250R retails for 2.8L, R15 for ~1L, why?
The frame of R15 is more rigid & advanced, but however modern it may be, it can't match for a missing pot & almost the same ps more.

**digislayer** · 08-31-2010, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by Nilay View Post

Ok.....then tell me why the Kawasaki Ninja 250 beat the R15 on track while the it has the wheelbase of 1400mm (R15=1290mm) even longer than the Royal Enfield bikes......I am asking Why.....??

Would you even consider the extra 100CC plus the extra cylinder with DOHC before comparing the both? Please, both the bikes are entirely different. They have entirely different weight distributions, engine frames, suspension gemotries and wheelbase to swingarm ratios. If you want what the Ninja 250 offers, it's what you'd want to buy. Buying an R15 and extending the wheelbase will not give you a Ninja. Plus, if you really think the deltabox is "ill-engineered" ompared to a regular "diamond tube" chassis, we respect your belief, but don't try to make us believe the same here. We believe the R15 is only limited by its engine. If argument about other bikes is all you want, look out for another thread, this thread is limited to only YZF R15 and its discussions.

**pranjalshukla** · 08-31-2010, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by ezy_rider View Post

Parth.... We had discussed about i had an accident last week. I need to change the Outer panel with R15 decal, the inside panel with grill on it and the front headlight cowl. My bike is Yellow color. You have mentioned the Price of the parts. Need to clarify it one more time. So please

it would be around some 1800

**nirav_j** · 08-31-2010, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by Nilay View Post

Ok.....then tell me why the Kawasaki Ninja 250 beat the R15 on track while the it has the wheelbase of 1400mm (R15=1290mm) even longer than the Royal Enfield bikes......I am asking Why.....??

Do engine specs/capability/output mean anything to you ?

Using your longer(=better handler) wheelbase analogy, one can deduce that the Bajaj Avenger would easily beat Kawasaki Ninja AND R15 on track.. As it has got a wheelbase of 1475mm !

On a serious note- I really would like to see a review of the handling of a longer wheel based R15 ..
Do let us know how it fares, if you do it on your bike .. I wouldn't want to discourage you from doing it. Your feedback would be valuable and help us all learn a thing or two ...

**jd666** · 08-31-2010, 11:54 PM

one question... why are we banging heads against a wall??

**Parth** · 09-01-2010, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by Nilay View Post

Ok Bro......How can you say that it struggle to reach 125-130 kmph even though bike is capable of 136 Kmph and mind well the R125 has 125cc engine and 15 PS of power while with additional 25cc of R15 has only 17 PS. In those sense the R125 is well engineered. Here question is why the bike has increment of only 2PS while the engine is so much capable to handle extra power also R15 is not the fastest Bike nor the quickest acceleration bike from competition and one more thing compare the R125 swing arm to rectangle section of R15 and you will noticed that how well engineered the R15 than the R125.

as far as rear is concern, I am not fool to use only front break. I used both the break. It is not the same time but alternatively. It is the technique in which you have to entered the corner with fast speed with some angle so that u can easily overtake the person front of you. This practice is strictly limited to Race track though i am not a track rider but an engineer.

Buddy, If I've offended you then I'm sorry. But if you're intent on believing that longer wheelbase = better engineered bike, then you might want to sell off your R15 and get a custom made chopper. Some choppers have wheelbase that is twice the length of a hatchback, so maybe then you'll be happy.

Originally posted by Nilay View Post

Ok.....then tell me why the Kawasaki Ninja 250 beat the R15 on track while the it has the wheelbase of 1400mm (R15=1290mm) even longer than the Royal Enfield bikes......I am asking Why.....??

33bhp vs 17bhp

Originally posted by painreloaded View Post

It can easily beat the running train as most of the trains run at 80-90 kmph...

Tu toh serious ho gya re :P

Originally posted by jd666 View Post

one question... why are we banging heads against a wall??

Hmm good question

Originally posted by ezy_rider View Post

Parth.... We had discussed about i had an accident last week. I need to change the Outer panel with R15 decal, the inside panel with grill on it and the front headlight cowl. My bike is Yellow color. You have mentioned the Price of the parts. Need to clarify it one more time. So please

Wow a question asked directly to me

. That feels nice. About the prices :
1. Outer fairing (with the decal) 575
2. Inner fairing (mesh walli) Sorry I forgot about this one but It should be around Rs300
3. Headlight cowl : Rs 380.

Also, do remember that the svc will charge you for the labour involved in installing the new plastics on your bike. It would be around Rs 200-300. If you can do the installation yourself then you should be able to save around 5 liters of fuel for your bike

**Rajesh Mudaliar** · 09-01-2010, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by svjhonda View Post

If you mean grinding the disc surface so that it gets smooth once again, I'd recommend you don't do it, because if the thickness isn't even all around, you'll be in a hell lot more trouble than now. Also the process would be too tedious and expensive.

Simple, use this disc, till it reaches the minimum thickness (3.5mm, over a few different spots) and replace it. And henceforth maintain the disc brake, as in, clean the disc surface if its been ridden through dusty places. Especially during monsoons.

Thank You... but what will be the rate of the disk.. and just for the info that what about the daytona Disk for R15 ?

**svjhonda** · 09-01-2010, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by jd666 View Post

one question... why are we banging heads against a wall??

'Coz we love head bangin'.

Originally posted by Rajesh Mudaliar View Post

Thank You... but what will be the rate of the disk.. and just for the info that what about the daytona Disk for R15 ?

I think there are two discs. One for the pre-racing colour models (which have engines made in Indonesia) and one for the newer ones.

The old ones cost some 1200, and the newer ones cost about 800-900. So when did you buy the bike?

Also the Daytona kit has 3 parts, and the brake kit is a part of the body kit, which includes the steel braided hose, the master cylinder, the adjustable brake lever, the caliper extension bracket, the massive 292mm disc and the adjustable footpegs. Some svc's might sell you just the brake related parts, but its anybody's guess how much it might cost...

**digislayer** · 09-02-2010, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by jigar2speed View Post

You are required in DIY thread, post explanation and some pics and we are happy ducks

Lol, sure dude..soon!

Originally posted by Parth View Post

Yes a DIY thread would be highly appreciated

Soon!

Originally posted by svjhonda View Post

Where to get Wurth's lube? Sorry, totally didn't know about this...

DIY! We want!

Man, this is quite serious. Would love to take mine apart and check... But only after you post a DIY. Even a rough one will do.

Well, writing is what keeps me away from making a DIY. Got too much overhead these days, my final year project, the yamaha webblog that I made(updating it is not easy..plus it helps me gain knowledge of Web Technologies, one of my curriculum subjects!

). Since you say even a rough one would be fine..will do it for you guys soon

And about Wurth chain lube, it costs around 650 or something from Wurth dealers. It's extremely penetrative compared to Motul, and I totally loved it. Even lasts through the usual rains and water splashes, waterwashes(company claimed to be splashproof). Wurth even has dry type chain lube for O-rings, but I preferred the wet type since my links need to be repaired first..

**R@jesh** · 09-02-2010, 11:31 PM

Rattling sound from exhaust

Guys, I have this strange problem, there is a rattling sound coming from the uppermost end of the exhaust. The SVC guys told me that there seems to be a small stone or something in the exhaust pipe (courtesy: my building kids), and I've been told that it may not be possible to remove it. I really need to get it out. Please help !

**Nilay** · 09-03-2010, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post

Nilay, for your safety, I would advise you to go through the link which I am posting below, shall be of help to you.

xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/art-safe-riding/10780-braking.html

How to increase rear wheel traction? Better Braking - Motoroids Forums

Trains top out at 110kmph as per R15's speedo. Have raced with one for over 30kms, over 110, i used to gain, below 105, I could see more than the engine.

Can't believe such a question can be asked?

Do you believe the 250R beat the R15 just because of a longer wheelbase? wow, you are not serious are you?
If this would be the case, 'busa would be beating the crap outta 600's on a race-track, which isn't the case.
250R retails for 2.8L, R15 for ~1L, why?
The frame of R15 is more rigid & advanced, but however modern it may be, it can't match for a missing pot & almost the same ps more.

Hey......sheelpriye.....If you read my previous discussion on page no 1148.....you will understand what i am trying to say. I am only comparing the R15 and R125 (sold in uk) because i felt that if R15's engine put in to underpowered R125 chassis (that has 1355mm wheelbase) then it will be breeze to ride R15 but these guys did not understand the question properly and comparing 250R to R15 is no no no no.........

and Thank you very much for the Link.......you are the only one who replied rear wheel traction.............thanks once again........

**Nilay** · 09-03-2010, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by digislayer View Post

Would you even consider the extra 100CC plus the extra cylinder with DOHC before comparing the both? Please, both the bikes are entirely different. They have entirely different weight distributions, engine frames, suspension gemotries and wheelbase to swingarm ratios. If you want what the Ninja 250 offers, it's what you'd want to buy. Buying an R15 and extending the wheelbase will not give you a Ninja. Plus, if you really think the deltabox is "ill-engineered" ompared to a regular "diamond tube" chassis, we respect your belief, but don't try to make us believe the same here. We believe the R15 is only limited by its engine. If argument about other bikes is all you want, look out for another thread, this thread is limited to only YZF R15 and its discussions.

Hey....digislayer plz. read the previous discussion on page 1147, 1148 and the respond......

**Nilay** · 09-03-2010, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by Parth View Post

Buddy, If I've offended you then I'm sorry. But if you're intent on believing that longer wheelbase = better engineered bike, then you might want to sell off your R15 and get a custom made chopper. Some choppers have wheelbase that is twice the length of a hatchback, so maybe then you'll be happy.

33bhp vs 17bhp

Tu toh serious ho gya re :P

Hmm good question

Wow a question asked directly to me

. That feels nice. About the prices :
1. Outer fairing (with the decal) 575
2. Inner fairing (mesh walli) Sorry I forgot about this one but It should be around Rs300
3. Headlight cowl : Rs 380.

Also, do remember that the svc will charge you for the labour involved in installing the new plastics on your bike. It would be around Rs 200-300. If you can do the installation yourself then you should be able to save around 5 liters of fuel for your bike

Hey....parth u r unable to answer my Question........

as you said longer wheelbase R125 is underpowered, Thats why i am asking you what happen when comparing to 33bhp (250R) to 17 bhp (R15) to 15 bhp (R125).............

I ride My R15 mostly on twisty road with lots of Experiment and the i find that R15 is not matching up with my riding style or habit. So in regard of that i asked some help from knowledgeable Friends and they said only thing is to alter the wheelbase to some extent so that it can match with ur riding habit and then i search lot of things on net and i have come to know that R125 is selling in UK and then i saw a lot of review on YouTube and amazed that company like Yamaha selling the R15 is not that much of Internation standard. If you look at the R125 and you will noticed how well is fit and finish etc......

Also the Specific Output of R125 is aroun 120 ps/liter and R15 has around 113 ps/liter..........So even the Power efficiency of R125 is better that the R15.

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