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  • Originally posted by sk8er_joe View Post
    Also please tell how to decipher the code from the light duration???
    Digit of 10 - Slow flashes.... (1 second each)
    Digit of 1 - Fast flashes.... (0.5 second each)

    So when you get 3 slow and no Fast flash, thats equal to 30 - Lean Angle sensor error... and so on...
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    • Hi Guys, I am bit confused regarding the engine oil change intervals. The manual says "2000km after the initial 1000km and every 3000kms there after". Does that mean we have to change the engine oil at 2000km (after the first oil change at 1000 km) and then at every 3000 kms thereafter ? (ie. 5000,8000,11000...and so on).
      Or does it mean 2000 km after the first 1000 km? ie at 3000 km and then every 3000km there after. If thats the case they could have simply mentioned it as "tick" marks under the normal 3000km service intervals. Instead they have given it as the above mentioned sentence. Please throw some light on this.
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      • Originally posted by SiD13 View Post
        Hi Guys, I am bit confused regarding the engine oil change intervals. The manual says "2000km after the initial 1000km and every 3000kms there after". Does that mean we have to change the engine oil at 2000km (after the first oil change at 1000 km) and then at every 3000 kms thereafter ? (ie. 5000,8000,11000...and so on).
        Or does it mean 2000 km after the first 1000 km? ie at 3000 km and then every 3000km there after. If thats the case they could have simply mentioned it as "tick" marks under the normal 3000km service intervals. Instead they have given it as the above mentioned sentence. Please throw some light on this.
        Okay got the answer from service manual (for mechanics) it says at 1000 and then at 3000km and then at every 3000km interval. Don't know why they have not mentioned it in the similar simple fashion in service manual for customers also.
        Ride swift, ride safe...
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        • Guys, seems like my issue got solved. cam e back from office . switched on the key . the led was still blinking. i just tried Starting the engine.. and wolla it started, and the light went off. so do i need to go the service center again with no symptoms to showcase? i took the bike for a ride and it felt good no noticeable issues

          hope the issue is solved
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          • Originally posted by santoosh View Post
            @tijojoy

            Open the seat , Remove the ECu and Fit it back again , two min job no tools needed . Dont worry nothing's gonna happen.If still continues , Check all the six sensors on the bike.
            WIll be a malfunction on any one of them.

            Santa
            hey can u tel me what the 6 sensors are and how do u check them and how can u tel whether one is not working properly. It would be really useful. Thanks.

            @all: guys can u tel me do we have to and if so how to clean the fuel injectors?
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            • Originally posted by HotAntivirus View Post
              I am drive normally at 60 and the current ODO reading is 530. Before 500 Kms I used to shift at 4-5 RPM. but after service was done and 500 kms were touched I shift at 6-7 also sometimes when I dont feel the need to use throttle while moving on a busy street, I pull the clutch fully and let the bike move (RPM 1k. Idle). Does that matter too?
              Don't pull the clutch and roll the vehicle. Use clutch only to go up and go down the gearbox. And when you come to a dead stop. Check tire pressure. And the fuel meter isn't accurate when you ride the bike. When the fuel level comes down to approx 2l, the console starts showing the reserve trip meter. If you stop, stabilize the bike, switch off and switch on again, it will show you 2 bars. So don't go by the reserve indicator.
              Originally posted by chiragh View Post
              Dude i know FI runs by itself ... but for your info we can tune the AFR ratio , am just asking here can service guys can do it or not !!!
              See my post for which you posted the above reply. I sad you can change the CO value. Which basically means altering the AFR. As for the svc, depends whether they have an FID or not. Stop biting heads off. Take it easy.
              Originally posted by TijoJoy View Post
              Guys, seems like my issue got solved. cam e back from office . switched on the key . the led was still blinking. i just tried Starting the engine.. and wolla it started, and the light went off. so do i need to go the service center again with no symptoms to showcase? i took the bike for a ride and it felt good no noticeable issues

              hope the issue is solved
              It might be a faulty speedo sensor. I dunno the flash count, but my friend actually rode the bike to the svc with the indicator blinking and speedo going berserk occasionally (showing 171kmph at times. ).
              You get the point?? :D
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              • Calculating FE simply

                Originally posted by HotAntivirus View Post
                To calculate FE I fill the tank fully and then reset the trip meter. is this way wrong?
                I presume this is not the correct way to calculate the correct FE which is not an issue with most of the owners but just in case some one needs to calculate its,then this is how it should go.
                Drive the Bike until the fuel in the fuel tank is so low that the "F-0.00 Km" appears on the odo meter . This simply means that the fuel in the fuel tank is left with 1.9 Ltrs and needs a refill. Meanwhile the figure in front of the "F" indicates the kilometers you have ridden after the sign "F- 0.00Kms" fig appeared on the odometer. Now this is the right time to put your one of the trip meters to 0.00 Kms. I prefer trip 02 since i use trip 01 as my main trip meter that way i remember it correctly.

                Now , when you fill the fuel tank next time just remember the figure.Now let us suppose that you filled "X" ltrs of fuel.

                Then ride your bike (up to your hearts content) and when the fuel guage starts to flash , now we know that the " F 0.00 Kms " is come up anytime soon. So when the " F 0.00 Kms "trip appears on the odometer just check the trip 02( what ever trip meter you chose for fuel effici. purpose)
                let say it says "Z Kms"

                so here comes your Fuel Efficiency (FE) figure.

                FE= (Z kms- seen on trip meter 02)/divided by (X ltrs- qty of fuel you filled when F-0.00 flashed on odo meter) = the resultant figure is in "Km/Ltrs"

                I hope you got the way or rather a better way to get the FE correctly, correct me if I have some things wrong. Which I may
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                • @ Pratik 322 - The method that you sugegsted makes sense when you have to manually turn the knob (like on the Pulsars) to move from the main to reserve. However with the R15 (and I assume other bikes for which there is no such knob) there is no exact point at which it moves to reserve.

                  Try this experiment, when the F - 0.0 starts blinking, ride the bike for some time and then switch it off. Later on when you restart the bike you might find that it shows that its still running on the the main supply and not the reserve as indicated earlier. Hence it isnt the most accurate method. Stick to the tank full to tank full process for accurate mileage calculations.
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                  • Originally posted by TijoJoy View Post
                    Guys, seems like my issue got solved. cam e back from office . switched on the key . the led was still blinking. i just tried Starting the engine.. and wolla it started, and the light went off. so do i need to go the service center again with no symptoms to showcase? i took the bike for a ride and it felt good no noticeable issues

                    hope the issue is solved
                    I guess you battery is dying Were you able to count the number of flashes?
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                    • Both methods have their shortcomings. Tank full method can give variation of upto half a litre, believe me or not, I have squeezed 13 lts.of fuel into my tank once! You can go way above the filler cap.
                      In the other method, as Neil says, once the bike is switched off the F meter goes away&it shows 1 or 2 bars again. So again not totally reliable.
                      My method is a combination of the two. What I do is, I fill an even 10 litres of fuel, reset trip A&when the F sign comes up in running, I reset trip B, so that even if it goes away, I can remember when the bike came to reserve&calculate accordingly.
                      For example, I fill 10 litres, reset trip A to 0.0
                      After riding for 418kms., F comes up in running, so I reset trip B to 0.0, A is still running.
                      I find a petrol pump within 6 kms. Trip A now shows me 424 kms., trip B shows me 6 kms.
                      So now the mileage is trip A-B/no.of litres
                      which is 424-6/10=41.8kms.
                      I find this method more reliable as I can also use it like a distance to empty indicator, since the F meter goes away whenever we stop&restart. From the time I reset trip B, I know that I have 2 litres&approximately 80 kms.to go!
                      In this method, the faster you fill fuel when the bike comes to reserve, the lesser variation is there.
                      Last edited by Sarvajit; 07-07-2010, 03:11 PM.
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                      • Originally posted by svjhonda View Post
                        Don't pull the clutch and roll the vehicle. Use clutch only to go up and go down the gearbox. And when you come to a dead stop. Check tire pressure. And the fuel meter isn't accurate when you ride the bike. When the fuel level comes down to approx 2l, the console starts showing the reserve trip meter. If you stop, stabilize the bike, switch off and switch on again, it will show you 2 bars. So don't go by the reserve indicator.

                        See my post for which you posted the above reply. I sad you can change the CO value. Which basically means altering the AFR. As for the svc, depends whether they have an FID or not. Stop biting heads off. Take it easy.

                        It might be a faulty speedo sensor. I dunno the flash count, but my friend actually rode the bike to the svc with the indicator blinking and speedo going berserk occasionally (showing 171kmph at times. ).

                        Dude that is what am asking whether YAMAHA provides dealers with FID ... and better keep shut if you don't know how to reply correctly !!!

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                        • Originally posted by chiragh View Post
                          Dude that is what am asking whether YAMAHA provides dealers with FID ... and better keep shut if you don't know how to reply correctly !!!
                          Take a chill pill... svj is a known senior helpful member around.....

                          Your answer: Yamaha doesnt force any dealers to buy a FID. Its the dealers prerogative.
                          So like he said 'ask' your dealer
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                          • @ satyenpoojary: No i was not able to count it as i turned the key on and Started the bike.
                            Yeah even i have a doubt about my battery, sometime while in the signal when i try to fire the engine it is very sluggish and it will reset the whole speedo meter again.
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                            Max Speeds : 85 KMPH - (Kinetic Honda - 1998)
                            Max Speeds : 115 KMPH - (Bullet 350 - 1999)
                            Max Speeds : 142 KMPH - (R-15 - 2010)
                            Max Speeds : 170 KMPH - (Ford Fiesta - 2010)
                            Still in Hot Pursuit...

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                            • Originally posted by TijoJoy View Post
                              @ satyenpoojary: No i was not able to count it as i turned the key on and Started the bike.
                              Yeah even i have a doubt about my battery, sometime while in the signal when i try to fire the engine it is very sluggish and it will reset the whole speedo meter again.

                              Replace it and Hurry if you are in warranty...

                              PS: When did you buy the bike?

                              Everyone else on the thread whose 'MF' Battery died in a year or so, do let us know when did you buy the bike!
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                              #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
                              #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
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                              #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
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                              • @TijoJoy

                                If the problem condition is not clear, the next time you switch on the ignition the SVC light would blink again. It switches off when you start the engine.

                                Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                                Your answer: Yamaha doesnt force any dealers to buy a FID. Its the dealers prerogative.
                                So like he said 'ask' your dealer
                                But the Yamaha Regional Offices / Regional Service Head (person) seem to carry the FID tool with them that is supplied to the service center upon request. At least, that's how it is working in Hyderabad. Try it. In fact, you can demand that. But again, if the service light is not blinking, I don't think the FID tool can find the error. And, if the lights are blinking, you can make out the error from the manual.

                                Attached is an extract from the service manual - first 4 pages of FI diagnostics telling what error for what. For more details please refer the service manual (link given a few posts above this one) - page 288 to 307.

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