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**SiD13** · 03-25-2010, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by HydBiker View Post

Nothing much other than checking for a scratch-less bike. Tell them strictly that you need a 2010 made bike and it would be a big mess if the bike turns our to be a 2009 make. Before taking delivery, make sure the PDI is done properly. Check the engine oil level too (personally).

Bloody hell cheeky and good

Buddy why is it important that it should be a 2009 model? does it make any difference? although chances are less that in end March - Beginning of April they would be selling 2009 models (considering the low production numbers of R15)..But even if it is an End 2009 model does it make any difference?

Expecting to take delivery sometime in April..so curious

**HydBiker** · 03-25-2010, 11:13 PM

You should get a 2010 model and not a 2009 model. You never know, one bike may be left in stock somewhere. Sometimes they get damaged in transit and wait a long time in godown for parts. This way you not only make sure that you get a fresh bike but also factors such as resale value, battery life, tyre life is better. And, need I hint you abotu the possible scratches or rust that appear on bikes left in godowns for months?

And, if you are choosing a blue colour, you will get fresh stock with a different graphics. They are 2010 made. To my info, there were no Blue bikes made in 2009. Even when we bought a bike in about September/October 2009 we got a 2008 model. We still bought it because the whole engine was assembled in Indonesia.

**JitenMistry** · 03-25-2010, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by SiD13 View Post

Buddy why is it important that it should be a 2009 model? does it make any difference? although chances are less that in end March - Beginning of April they would be selling 2009 models (considering the low production numbers of R15)..But even if it is an End 2009 model does it make any difference?

Expecting to take delivery sometime in April..so curious

It's quite possible you will can 2009 model, I have with same experience. I purchase R15 blue in July 2009 and Engine made year was Nov 2008. so be clearful.

**SiD13** · 03-26-2010, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by JitenMistry View Post

It's quite possible you will can 2009 model, I have with same experience. I purchase R15 blue in July 2009 and Engine made year was Nov 2008. so be clearful.

I do understand the possibility of getting a 2009 model but I still don't understand why we are panicking about it..How much is the battery life going to be affected by it? that too a maintenance free battery? and is the tire life going to be hugely affected by a few months non usage? in that case the same would happen if i leave it unused for a few months. and regarding the scratches, we have to check it anyway. The old bike problem seems to be more psychological than anything else? Or am i just not understanding it?

And as far as I understand the engine is still done in Indonesia..and anyway, if they can make it there why do you guys think Yamaha would have to compromise on quality if at all they do it in India?

**JitenMistry** · 03-26-2010, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by SiD13 View Post

I do understand the possibility of getting a 2009 model but I still don't understand why we are panicking about it..How much is the battery life going to be affected by it? that too a maintenance free battery? and is the tire life going to be hugely affected by a few months non usage? in that case the same would happen if i leave it unused for a few months. and regarding the scratches, we have to check it anyway. The old bike problem seems to be more psychological than anything else? Or am i just not understanding it?

And as far as I understand the engine is still done in Indonesia..and anyway, if they can make it there why do you guys think Yamaha would have to compromise on quality if at all they do it in India?

As per my view and experience with my R15, there is no big impact (in my case, there was only one minor different in R15 is horn place).

There is no impact on battery [it will fix at the time of delivery], tires, not a single scratch.

This is only mind satisfaction, nothing else since there are no different on 2009 and 2010 model (as per I know)

**buggy** · 03-26-2010, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by deepu165 View Post

Guys!!
i've just acclaimed my free 2nd free service, bike has been little sluggish while applying front brake it seems the handle is loose. consult the service guy but he says everything is normal. but sumthing is wrong in it. the smoothness is gone. really pissed off. planning to go this weekend to the YMI

try riding the bike for a day or two and let the breaks heat up a bit coz after service they pressure wash it and sometimes it might take a day or two to dry completely if not used that is. it happened to me after a day it got better and back to normal check and see..

**buggy** · 03-26-2010, 03:20 AM

Originally posted by JitenMistry View Post

It's quite possible you will can 2009 model, I have with same experience. I purchase R15 blue in July 2009 and Engine made year was Nov 2008. so be clearful.

woha i dint know that mine too was bought about july....

**jd666** · 03-26-2010, 04:14 AM

i think, actually getting a older engine would be better.. now that the engines are being made locally.

**Parth** · 03-26-2010, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by jd666 View Post

i think, actually getting a older engine would be better.. now that the engines are being made locally.

Would there be any reduction in the reliability of the bike if the engine is locally made?? I ask this coz reliability is one of the contributing factors that's nudging me to get a R15 instead of a p220.

Also, I read some pages back that the newer R15s have the clutch assembly from the FZ series.......any decrease in performance/reliability due to that??

@ all...
Guys I'm thinking of going in for a limited edition R15. I think that that colour combo will definitely stand apart from the crowd(as if an r15 doesn't do that by itself

). I'm concerned about the spares being unavailable if I need them....i.e. the coloured spares(fairings etc) as I've read on this thread that many-a-times r15riders have faced issues of unavailability of spares on their "normal"-coloured bikes

Should I be concerned about this issue??

**SiD13** · 03-26-2010, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by Parth View Post

Would there be any reduction in the reliability of the bike if the engine is locally made?? I ask this coz reliability is one of the contributing factors that's nudging me to get a R15 instead of a p220.

Also, I read some pages back that the newer R15s have the clutch assembly from the FZ series.......any decrease in performance/reliability due to that??

@ all...
Guys I'm thinking of going in for a limited edition R15. I think that that colour combo will definitely stand apart from the crowd(as if an r15 doesn't do that by itself

). I'm concerned about the spares being unavailable if I need them....i.e. the coloured spares(fairings etc) as I've read on this thread that many-a-times r15riders have faced issues of unavailability of spares on their "normal"-coloured bikes

Should I be concerned about this issue??

The info about new R15 using the clutch assembly of FZ is just a wild guess work and not supported by any solid information.

And I really don't understand why people think that the quality will be compromised if the machine is made locally..the process should be the same the components should be same..now that many big time automobile manufacturers are turning India to a major export hub..its childish to think that an engine manufactured in India would be any less reliable than one made in Indonesia or Thailand. As if Indonesia equates to Germany or Detroit!

PS: still not sure if the engine is made locally. however, don't think it matters. (hopefully

)

**sakthi_nj** · 03-26-2010, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by JitenMistry View Post

As per my view and experience with my R15, there is no big impact (in my case, there was only one minor different in R15 is horn place).

There is no impact on battery [it will fix at the time of delivery], tires, not a single scratch.

This is only mind satisfaction, nothing else since there are no different on 2009 and 2010 model (as per I know)

There are 3 changes I noticed in the 2010 R15.
1. The Horn mounting and the Horn Loudness.
2. The Battery make.
3. Graphics in the Blue Machine.

**sheelpriye** · 03-26-2010, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by SiD13 View Post

The info about new R15 using the clutch assembly of FZ is just a wild guess work and not supported by any solid information.

True

And I really don't understand why people think that the quality will be compromised if the machine is made locally..the process should be the same the components should be same..now that many big time automobile manufacturers are turning India to a major export hub..its childish to think that an engine manufactured in India would be any less reliable than one made in Indonesia or Thailand. As if Indonesia equates to Germany or Detroit!

PS: still not sure if the engine is made locally. however, don't think it matters. (hopefully

)

The engine IS assembled locally now, but IMHO it is not a deterrent nor a concern,
Yamaha won't do something foolish by compromising on quality considering the fact that just ~1200bikes are sold on a monthly basis

Originally posted by sakthi_nj

There are 3 changes I noticed in the 2010 R15.
1. The Horn mounting and the Horn Loudness.

Horn's place and horn's loudness was already altered in '09, i.e. in the graphics edition
not sure about battery
graphics -i am not sure

**sakthi_nj** · 03-26-2010, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post

Horn's place and horn's loudness was already altered in '09, i.e. in the graphics edition
not sure about battery
graphics -i am not sure

Except blue all the Racing colours(black, yellow, red) underwent graphics and horn change.
Blue R15 is revised in 2010 with graphics, battery and horn change. Not sure about the Engine outsourcing in India. There was a rumor couple of months when the R15 production has stopped temporarily to meet the fazer demands.

**JitenMistry** · 03-26-2010, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by sakthi_nj View Post

There are 3 changes I noticed in the 2010 R15.
1. The Horn mounting and the Horn Loudness.
2. The Battery make.
3. Graphics in the Blue Machine.

Graphics for Blue color is same as previous, nothing change in 2010 too.

Yes, Horn mounting and their loudness is increase

I have Tata Green Maintain free battery, not know which brand right now they are using.

**R-series** · 03-26-2010, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by JitenMistry View Post

Graphics for Blue color is same as previous, nothing change in 2010 too.

Yes, Horn mounting and their loudness is increase

I have Tata Green Maintain free battery, not know which brand right now they are using.

Here's the graphic difference

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