Engine Oils for R15

Hi guys, Just thought I will pen down my experience of using 4 different engine oils on my bike so far (16k Kms on odo). I will rate the oils on a scale of 5, with a score of 5 being the best.

Oil - Price - Rating
Yamalube Mineral SG (15W40) - Rs. 185 - 3 (used 5k Kms)
Yamalube Mineral SL (15W40) - Rs. 220 - 3 (used 4k Kms)
Yamalube Semi Synthetic (15W50) - Rs. 415 - 3.5 (used 6k Kms)
Motul Semi Synthetic 5100 (15W50) - Rs. 450 - 4.5 (used 50 Kms)

I have not run the bike much on the Motul SS yet as I got the bike serviced only yesterday, but it feels miles better than any of the oils I have used till date.
The gearshifts are butter smooth with this oil, & the engine sounds way smoother & comfortable at all revs.
I think I have finally found the right oil for the bike now, and need to look no further.

IMO, a fully synthetic (FS) oil is not required, unless you redline the bike consistently (like using the bike say on a trackday). I don't plan to switch to FS anytime soon, unless a trackday is lined up sometime.

I hope this small review helps.

Good stuff there Tibby!
Will surely help the others around.
I used Yamalube SS for 5000Kms and then shifted to Motul 300V FS 15W50. Using it since past 12000Kms. Changed twice. I know it isn't necessary, but there is nothing wrong in giving your engine a Better oil right?

Oh, I do have a small doubt- Is it true, that you cannot shift to SS once FS has been put in?

Guys.... A valuable information about a very hot discussion we had earlier. That is about cleaning and lubing our bike's chain... Had a chat with representatives of our bike's chain manufacturer Rolon. As a dealer of automobile spares, I went for a spares exhibition. Thus got a chance to see the company personals.
As per their instruction there is no need for very expensive methods.
To clean the chain, make a cleaner by mixing kerosene and engine oil by 1;1 ratio and use a nylon cloth to wipe the chain gently. The dust and debris inside in between the links can be cleaned using a tooth brush. DO NOT use cotton waste to clean it coz it will get clogged in the links.
SAE 90 gear oil is recommended to lube the chain. We don't need oil can to pour as we did on our old X-ring chains. Just pour some gear oil in a nylon cloth and gently wipe it with on both sides.That is all... There is grease applied inside the rollers by default. So there is no need of applying much lubricants inside. Just a small amount will work to move freely.
Lube it when ever there is need. Means.. after ride in rain.. Do this as frequent as possible. The chain life lasts longer.

The gearshifts with motul 5100 are truly a bliss. Also the improvement in engine refinement at high revs is very noticeable. I'd recommend the motul to all who've been using yamalube ss as motul is definitely worth spending 20 bucks more than yamalube ss.

Hmm hows many km's does the fully synthetic oil last sir?

I replied to this question in this thread 3-4 pages back, Don't remember if it were you that I replied to. Yes it is true that you should not shift to ss after you've put in FS oil. (Or for that matter of fact, Mineral -> SS -> FS. You should not go right to left, only left to right should be done.)

Hmm, Not me I guess. Yea, I Won't ever do that, It was just a Question. Thanks! Motul/Shell Advance, in Kuwait in SBKs are used for 8000Kms. I change at every 5000-5500Kms.
And, SIR? Don't make me feel like an Old man!

Oh, Yeah! SAE 90 is always recommended. YES YES!
Didn't know about the grease inside. Thanks for the info!

I'd be glad if it can help anyone out here.
Logically, I don't see any harm in moving back from FS to SS. I think an oil filter change while making the switch is required though.
I remember Parth also mentioning this, but I want to read up the technical reason behind it, if true.

Yes, gearshifts are slotting in perfectly, & the refinement at high revs is to eb felt to believe. Really worth the extra 35 bucks.

But isn't the SS Yamalube repackaged Motul?

Yes! Thats what we have heard.

My POV for the difference in performance is that SS being a mix of Mineral & FS oils, Yamaha might be blending them in a ratio different from the one sold by Motul.

Also, I discussed this difference in performance of Motul SS vs. Yamalube SS with the Service Engineer, Bangalore, & he told me that Yamaha add some additives to the Yamalube engine oils. I don't know how far this is true, but Motul is definitely better.
I stuck to Yamalube SS for another 3k Kms based on your suggestion, but it turned out to be the same bad oil.
Motul is way better man. Highly recommended for superior performance & smoothness (compared to Yamalube SS).

Thats good, either ways you benefited.
Anyway, is the greasing of mono suspension links a very laborious job? I heard the swingarm has to be dismantled for that&all the SVCs refuse to do it. I think mine needs it, as it wasn't done at the end of the 1st year.
What do you say-have you got it done to your bike?

I haven't got it done either! Bike is at 16k right now, after 17 months!
I checked with the service manager at the SVC regarding the swingarm greasing, & monoshock greasing. He said he'd charge 250 for the swingarm greasing, & regarding monoshock greasing, he said its no major thing & they will do it once they are greasing the swingarm (with no additional charge for it) as they would have removed the rear tyre for it.

What the service manager said makes it sound like a not so complicated thing, so I'm not sure how complicated it is. Maybe someone else can chip in.

BTW, I will get it greased at the next service.

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folks!!!!just wanna know are there any r15rs from jaipur here on xbhp????i have posted this question many times in different sections but havent got a rply,so it would be very kind if people living in jaipur can post a rply on this....thanks

[QUOTE=tibby;504466]Hi guys, Just thought I will pen down my experience of using 4 different engine oils on my bike so far (16k Kms on odo). I will rate the oils on a scale of 5, with a score of 5 being the best.

Oil - Price - Rating
Yamalube Mineral SG (15W40) - Rs. 185 - 3 (used 5k Kms)
Yamalube Mineral SL (15W40) - Rs. 220 - 3 (used 4k Kms)
Yamalube Semi Synthetic (15W50) - Rs. 415 - 3.5 (used 6k Kms)
Motul Semi Synthetic 5100 (15W50) - Rs. 450 - 4.5 (used 50 Kms)

^^helped a lot..btw dont remember exactly but when is the second oil change supposed to be??first one was at 943kms (1st servicing)..when is the next due???btw i am not at all satisfied with the yamalube ss oil that the svc guys put in..at first the gear-shifts were smooth but not anymore..when i told those guys about this, they fiddled with the clutch and then it was awesome for a while, but now its hard again..
i was thinking of changing to the motul ss as you said..but when??? is my question..

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go for the oil change in 3rd svc...I poured Yamalube SS in my 1st svc and in the 2nd it was fine and the mechanic recommended not to change it...As for your clutch is concerned, they have tightened it which will result in earlier damage of clutch plates...

1st service is due at 1k Kms. 2nd at 3k Kms.
Using SS, its not really required to change the oil at 3k. Use it till about 4k Kms, unless the oil level/ performance really deteriorates earlier.

Do switch to Motul SS 5100 (15W50) for next oil change. You will find it better than the Yamalube, for sure.

mmm, I redline my bike a lot. I mean it when I say A LOT. Only when I'm insanely low on fuel and on my way to the fuel station that I dont redline it. It somehow doesn't feel right to be under 7k RPM.

So, Motul FS for me, right? I'm at 4.8k KMs and havn't changed oil after the first service at 1k