@theguitarfreak: Yes i have it. it serves it purpose well and mine is a REd R15 so it looks good in it.

I completely agree with your opinion. People are searching for magic bullets where there are none. There is no voodoo magic method whereby your bike will develop more power by some running in method being purported by someone on the Internet.

If the companies that design and make these engines thought that such purported methods work then they would themselves recommend the same. Think about it.... the company that designs and makes these engines have to not only standby your bike's engine but thousand of others like yours and that is not something that any reputed company will take lightly....

So time for you (i.e. whoever is contemplating using such methods) to decide.... whom would you believe... someone claiming to know an obscure way of running in an engine who has no stake whatsoever in your bike's wellbeing or the company that has to standby and guarantee the product they have their name and reputation on...

I agree that u should run in the bike as per the manual. There may be some little bit increase in power or the smoothness in the bike if we do not follow the procedure as mentioned in the book and take the rpm to a high level. But it will ruin the fuel efficiency of the bike for the rest of its life..

Further to my post above; how does one know that such methods increase power output.... has anyone put these bikes on a dynometer to check the output vis-a-vis the bikes that have been run in as recommended by the manufactures... what about the service life of the internals.... has anyone studied what is the effect of such methods on the service life of the engine and its components... what is the amount of wear and tear on the engine by these methods or is it just seat of the pants feedback and claims????

It may not always be due to the tappets. I had some vibes due to a cracked fairing (usually comes free with small spills) which I hadnt noticed. Also get them to tighten the screws in the fairing the next time you give the bike for servicing. The screws for the screen could also work themselves loose over time.

^^^ in addition to the above please check if all the engine mount fasteners are torqued to the correct specifications.

company also give thin tyres saree guard rear view mirrors etc. normal air filters, mineral oil recomendation, etc etc that doesnt mean they are the best for the bike.....

Guys you wont believe what happened today. I went to the showroom from where i bought my bike to take the manual. I saw the showroom manager busy showing the showroom and workshop around to two Chinese or Japanse ( i dont know how to differentiate between them ) people. Then when i asked the manager she told me those are guys from Yamaha Japan R&D. She asked me to talk to them and bring out my queries. So i said Hi and started talking to them asking them about the engine oil. I couldnt really make out what they replied back in English. It was in a Japanese accent. Then they asked me how is the performance of the bike. I told them that the handling and feedback is just brilliant. Especially on corners. You woudnt believe it but they felt as happy as a 2 year old child would be if you give him a chocolate. I never expected Yamaha Japan R&D engineers (this is the same team that also designed the R1 if im not wrong) to be so down to earth and to get happy just by listening to a few good words about their quality product. I thought they already knew how good the bike was. They were thanking me a lot and then they asked me to provide some feedback on the bike. I said it could do a little more with low end power and a more powerful low beam light. To this they nodded in agreement and talked in Japanase for a moment amongst themselves and they also noted it down in their notepad. Then came one of the best moments of my life. They asked me if they could take a photo of me standing beside my R15. I never expected something like this to happen in my wildest dreams. I think you people can already guess the feeling reading my post.

Whatever.... I could give you an answer for each and everything that you have pointed out in your post... but it will only degenerate into an argument which will have no head or tail.... so... to each his own... peace brother

they came here in hyderabad at pearl yamaha too when i had my fz a year back..they gave me a yamaha pen and took some survey

Run-in in any kind of way be it company or custom,would never increase a bike's power above the figure claimed by the company.I simply said that custom run-in method helps the bike to access its full potential,which means a Bike with an output of 17bhp would extract its total output at its optimum rev range.
The run-in provided by the company are meant for hassle free and least of worries for the company who are reluctant to sweat it out most of the time after the bike has been sold...........

People with guts can do the custom run-in,at least I can guarantee one thing it wont hurt the bike,as in my case.Also in my case if the bike is hurt,i wont go for under warranty parts,I would buy them new.

Pointing a finger at a person by mentioning his work or advice implies more than naming the person,basic civil behaviour is hard to find nowadays.
My custom run-in method was free for all,who will go by it shall go,who wont ,shall not go for it............its simple,I never forced or influenced anybody,I am not gonna make money out of that,it was just a part of discussion and I shared my part.

Criticism is good,pointing fingers and crossing other's believe takes it to a new low. I don't enjoy the privilege of being fed or taken care of by someone,that they would feel free to imply whatever they feel like.

My most sincere apologies for any of my comments that have across as negative or pointing fingers... never meant that and would never want to do that... so my apologies without any attempts to justify the same...

you sound like you are hurt. dude take my opinion as just an opinion. the problem i find with many guys these days is that no one is willing to take criticism. every one is too formal. dude ,me and you belong to one family-the r15 family. in a family difference in opinions are likely to occur. that dosen't mean we hate each other. i am a frank guy and tells what ever i have in mind openly though i know where i have to stop. i have already got 2 warnings from the moderators in the past due to this "quality". i am an honest guy and speaks out my mind . but i have no intention of hurting any one. even if i am thrown out of x bhp for this i just don't care. when we discuss about our bikes in this thread ,naturally opinion differences are likely to happen. just don't take it seriously. healthy debates will only make us think and grow as a person. hey man,i did you a favour-because of my opinions on your run in methods i have some what popularised your theory-like movie stars doing publicity stunts to popularise their upcoming ventures. he he. i am going OT . sorry moderators.

I was going to a friends home and I tried to start my bike but there was no display at all, tried horns, lights everything.. nothing worked.. I tried to push start the bike but it wont start as my central locking was on and without disamring it it wont start the bike. It just gave a beep.

What should I do guys?

I checked the fuse and its fine, not blown.

Edit: SVC guys came and checked the bike, it seems there is a wiring problem.. I'll have to take the bike to SVC tomorrow. What could be the problem? The bike was running fine till last night, it rained today, can that be a issue?

@mach50 - The figure of 17 bhp by the company is attained on a set of test rigs ( read engines ) If you read the manufacturers submission documents for approval ( which i have ), It will give an indication of what the tolerance is, and how many engines are gonna be tested out of a batch.

Generally the power produced is given a 10% tolerance. Which means, in case of the R15 it can be 15.3 bhp to 18.7 bhp even!

10 out of a batch of 100 engines are tested to within these tolerances, and yes, the lower out put ones are also installed, unless there is something drastically wrong with the engine performance.

So if you are running in your bike using a varied method, yes there will be a difference in the power output after the running in has been completed.