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**Sahil Shah** · 01-07-2011, 01:41 PM

Hi...!!

I wanted to know that if i want to change the color scheme for fz16 from SVC,which colors are available to change it..???I wanted to change fz16 to white and black(Special edition Carbon Fiber imported White)...will the SVC will change it for me,and if no then which color is avaliable..??

**jacob** · 01-07-2011, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by Sahil Shah View Post

I wanted to know that if i want to change the color scheme for fz16 from SVC,which colors are available to change it..???I wanted to change fz16 to white and black(Special edition Carbon Fiber imported White)...will the SVC will change it for me,and if no then which color is avaliable..??

Go to the SVC and check with them which colors are available and yes they will change it for you...

It would take less than an hour to change the whole thing....

**shv18** · 01-07-2011, 02:09 PM

Off roading rear tyres

Hi,

i guess this thread has been bombarded many times with queries about tyres.

The primary reason why i am asking this is for my preparation for Leh trip '11 (fingers crossed to get leaves from work this time atleast!!

).

As we are all aware that the OEM tyre is good for roads but absolutely useless for serious off-roading which i am bound to encounter in Leh... so needed some advice regarding the same. In such conditions i assume PSDs for rear are also not up to the task.

As per my conversation with one of our XBHP member:trustvishwas, he has done Leh on FZ fitting rear tyre with TVS 120/80-17 PANCER. However, he had to completely remove the rear tyre hugger which is a whole set with the chain cover to accomodate the tyre. I am not soo keen with TVS as a brand so was looking for some suggestions.

So far only MRF Zapper Q with 140/70-17 seems to fit the bill according to me but i am not sure whether this tyre has got off-roading capabilities and secondly it is not tubeless if i am not wrong.

Your suggestions are most welcome

**sandeepcf** · 01-07-2011, 02:46 PM

Remove the chain

Hi,
Is there no master link for the chain on Fazer/FZ?
I want to remove the chain and clean it...Help me

Also the bike is emitting smoke at high revs and the service centre guy said its normal for all the FZs and showed the same with 3 brand new
Fz's. The factory setting of the fuel screw is 4 3/4 turns out, I made it 3 3/4 and now the smoke is vanished. Is it OK to run with this setting?
Thank you

**Nandyfz** · 01-07-2011, 03:48 PM

Bike not starting

Guys,
Again problem with my starter

.
Yesterday i stopped at a signal and turned of my engine. Later when i tried starting it the bike refused to start

. I tried starting it but it just simply refused.
I had to use the push and start method then it started. It was so embarassing

to push my 5months old bike to push and start.
What might be the problem guys?
Later when i tried with starter it started.
Just not getting what the problem is? Battery? or starter?

**RAK** · 01-07-2011, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by Nandyfz View Post

Guys,
Again problem with my starter

.
Yesterday i stopped at a signal and turned of my engine. Later when i tried starting it the bike refused to start

. I tried starting it but it just simply refused.
I had to use the push and start method then it started. It was so embarassing

to push my 5months old bike to push and start.
What might be the problem guys?
Later when i tried with starter it started.
Just not getting what the problem is? Battery? or starter?

If there is a problem with your starter motor or relay then the bike wont start at all with the self start. But that is not the scenario in your case. As you told the bike started after some time with self start then its definitely not the issue with Starter Motor / Relay.

Get your battery checked from a Battery shop. Check the water level and the carbon deposits on the electrodes. It is definitely an issue with the battery.

**Nandyfz** · 01-07-2011, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by sandeepcf View Post

Hi,
Is there no master link for the chain on Fazer/FZ?
I want to remove the chain and clean it...Help me

Also the bike is emitting smoke at high revs and the service centre guy said its normal for all the FZs and showed the same with 3 brand new
Fz's. The factory setting of the fuel screw is 4 3/4 turns out, I made it 3 3/4 and now the smoke is vanished. Is it OK to run with this setting?
Thank you

Originally posted by RAK View Post

If there is a problem with your starter motor or relay then the bike wont start at all with the self start. But that is not the scenario in your case. As you told the bike started after some time with self start then its definitely not the issue with Starter Motor / Relay.

Get your battery checked from a Battery shop. Check the water level and the carbon deposits on the electrodes. It is definitely an issue with the battery.

Hi Rak,
Thanks for the quick reply. I too had a doubt that its a battery problem, but if its a battery problem then how come the headlight glow without any dimness??
Thats wat made me think about the starter

**kinshuk.arya** · 01-07-2011, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by Nandyfz View Post

Hi Rak,
Thanks for the quick reply. I too had a doubt that its a battery problem, but if its a battery problem then how come the headlight glow without any dimness??
Thats wat made me think about the starter

the current taken by the headlight is very low as compared to the starter....

**nand15** · 01-07-2011, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by Nandyfz View Post

Guys,
Again problem with my starter

.
Yesterday i stopped at a signal and turned of my engine. Later when i tried starting it the bike refused to start

. I tried starting it but it just simply refused.
I had to use the push and start method then it started. It was so embarassing

to push my 5months old bike to push and start.
What might be the problem guys?
Later when i tried with starter it started.
Just not getting what the problem is? Battery? or starter?

I have had this problem too ... And yet there is no permanent solution that I could find out , it's not a battery issue that much is for sure , coz I have had that checked multiple times ... The problem is with the relay I am told ... I believe its connected directly , to what i'm not sure

, thats what the mech told , so if it senses a problem it will shut itself down ...

Don't use the engine kill switch very often or shut the bike in transmission .. these can also cause the thing to malfunction .

**dude_phenom** · 01-07-2011, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by Nandyfz View Post

Hi Rak,
Thanks for the quick reply. I too had a doubt that its a battery problem, but if its a battery problem then how come the headlight glow without any dimness??
Thats wat made me think about the starter

Originally posted by kinshuk.arya View Post

the current taken by the headlight is very low as compared to the starter....

Some electrical fundas below.
The headlight requires steady current. In case of default bulbs it is 12V 35W which is about 3A. battery is 12V 5A rating. so the bulb takes a lot of current available. The starter on the other hand needs a lot more current in very short duration of time. more like 10-12A in less than a second to start. Kind of in a surge fashion.

Now most batteries can handle surge (even though they are higher than their rating). But you shouldnt stress it a lot. What is stressing? Starting the bike with the HL turned on is a good example. Bcoz from 10-12A you push it to 13-15A. That would deteriorate the life of a battery.

The fact that you said that pushing the bike started it, shows the battery does not have enuf current in it to support cranking. So you'll have to check the electrolyte levels in it and if necessary top it with distilled water. taking it to SVC or battery shop should do the trick. They might ask u to leave it for over night charging in which case you'll have a prob in bringing your bike back home in case of a battery shop.

**dude_phenom** · 01-07-2011, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by nand15 View Post

I have had this problem too ... And yet there is no permanent solution that I could find out , it's not a battery issue that much is for sure , coz I have had that checked multiple times ... The problem is with the relay I am told ... I believe its connected directly , to what i'm not sure

, thats what the mech told , so if it senses a problem it will shut itself down ...

Don't use the engine kill switch very often or shut the bike in transmission .. these can also cause the thing to malfunction .

the diff b/w your case and his nand, is that you could not push and start your bike. Where as he could.

**kinshuk.arya** · 01-07-2011, 10:44 PM

^^^^^ +1 to that...

**dude_phenom** · 01-07-2011, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by nand15 View Post

What grade of oil have you used ???

mineral will run for about 1500km , semi synth for 2.5k to 3k kms and synth about 6k+ kms ... so with 700-800 kms on the oil , you really needn't worry about it .

Originally posted by shv18 View Post

Please refer to the owner's manual once. You interval of changing oil is every 3000kms or a certain no. of days from the day of the last servicing. i can't recollect the exact figure right now.

That should help

+1 to both here. Even though the manual says 3k for oil change, I'm kinda unsure of keeping a mineral for that long unless you top it regularly. My vote would be to switch to SS or FS oils and like forget it for 6 months (SS) or 1 yr (FS). This is the interval at which you would have to change irrespective of whether you have done enough kms or not.

Also make sure you guys check the manf date on the oils. Coz sometimes when a oil is sold for less than usual, it could be old oil. Anything less than 1 yr is fine by me. Less than 3-6 months would be super

**deville_56** · 01-07-2011, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by dude_phenom View Post

+1 to both here. Even though the manual says 3k for oil change, I'm kinda unsure of keeping a mineral for that long unless you top it regularly. My vote would be to switch to SS or FS oils and like forget it for 6 months (SS) or 1 yr (FS). This is the interval at which you would have to change irrespective of whether you have done enough kms or not.

Also make sure you guys check the manf date on the oils. Coz sometimes when a oil is sold for less than usual, it could be old oil. Anything less than 1 yr is fine by me. Less than 3-6 months would be super

Mineral oil can last 2.5k km easily even without topup

. BTW SS and FS can last long, really long, tingtong, but still the debate is going on regarding its longevity.

**nand15** · 01-07-2011, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by dude_phenom View Post

the diff b/w your case and his nand, is that you could not push and start your bike. Where as he could.

bro , You've got me wrong , and i'm not blaming you as , well me being me , its hard to remember all my issues .... I'm not referring to my most recent issue ... I have had this very same issue sometime back , I have posted regarding this as well ... Just lazy to find out where in this huge thread ...

@deville_56: how long is long ... ???

, I have been running my FS for 6000km now , still got juice left ... I'm wondering whether i should change it ... been running so smooth , no interest to change it

For all those wondering , I have seen this problem as well

... here you go .

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...-16-a-596.html

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