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+1 to that! our bike may be darling to us not necessary for them, it is just another piece of metal to them.Originally posted by aargee View PostLol
Don't scold them; the mechanics over there, just work for money; most of them don't work out of passion; I would work for free at any HD outlet part time provided they give me ride different bikes; that's not the kind of spirit they have. And when the passion lacks, the quality is lost & when the quality is lost, the end output is affected.Explore the unexplored!
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Originally posted by aargee View PostLol
Don't scold them; the mechanics over there, just work for money; most of them don't work out of passion; I would work for free at any HD outlet part time provided they give me ride different bikes; that's not the kind of spirit they have. And when the passion lacks, the quality is lost & when the quality is lost, the end output is affected. Thats not a reason for lack of quality servicing!What about european countries or the US or alike?not necessarily the mechanics over there are passionate about biking.Originally posted by Youngking View Post+1 to that! our bike may be darling to us not necessary for them, it is just another piece of metal to them.
why is the service provided there so good?do we lack the infrastructure or money?Honda is 1 company,right?So they must look into service provided everywhere.why cant we Indians get better service?why isnt there any check on quality?
i mean how can a broken dashboard be justified???and to add to it,there are no spare parts available! a broken dashboard = water seeping in = electronics failure = bike becoming useless! and add "unavailability of spare parts" and its better that i hadnt bought the bike in the first place!
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Even i don't mean only due to their lack of passion the quality of the service is poor. There are many reasons in our case. I would say all these are happening due to chaos in Honda service department they themselves are not aware what needs to be done and most importantly lack of knowledge about the bike itself. Hope the dust will settle soon as the time passes.Originally posted by Aniket_N View PostThats not a reason for lack of quality servicing!What about european countries or the US or alike?.................add "unavailability of spare parts" and its better that i hadnt bought the bike in the first place!
cheers.Explore the unexplored!
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This is not England nor Berlin; you're in India & be a Roman in Rome!!! We're in a third world country & not in a developed nation & that brings a lot of quality difference in life.Originally posted by Aniket_N View PostThats not a reason for lack...in the first place!
Grow up pls!!!Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day
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Sir no offence .......not fair calling INDIA "third world"Originally posted by aargee View PostThis is not England nor Berlin; you're in India & be a Roman in Rome!!! We're in a third world country & not in a developed nation & that brings a lot of quality difference in life.
Grow up pls!!!
..its difficult for all of us, owners and folks like me who had to drop it in the end as far as the CBR is concerned COZ HONDA MESSED UP!!!! u said its the same thing in the US aswell didnt u ....SIR..... INDIA OR US hondas issue is global.....so we need to pray and hope tht things turn out well....may be if v can reach a bigger media to bring to light the probz of the CBR it would bring much change....
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Strike - I respect the sentiment, but unfortunately, that's what we're being called by the west & we keep calling ourselves a developing nation when there's a third bomb blast in Mumbai; now remember, that's what China, Thailand & Srilanka are also called. Anyway, this will get us no where & let's keep this aside.Originally posted by strikepackage View PostSir no offence .......not fair calling INDIA "third world"
Well do you think, I'm spared either? If you follow this thread, I'd one of the heart breaking incident that none of the people ever has experienced in the nation.Originally posted by strikepackage View Post
..its difficult for all of us, owners and folks like me who had to drop it in the end as far as the CBR is concerned COZ HONDA MESSED UP
Well, there's a shortage of spares, but lets keep that away for now because the real discussion is with ASC & the quality of service that we were comparing between EU & India. We've to realize the truth that we're not a process oriented developed country, we're still in chaotic condition & still trying to believe we're developing. Its extremely difficult to expect a customer service at a tapri & cheap food at Le Meridien. If customer service is important, then people could've opted a N250R rightOriginally posted by strikepackage View Postu said its the same thing in the US aswell didnt u ....SIR..... INDIA OR US hondas issue is global
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Sure sure; again, if you followed my posts here...let me complete K mark, complete 1st service once again & if I still can't cross 140 Kmph, then HMSI had it. I'm walking to court & that's one of the reason I was requesting Metal_Maniac & Amlan to start a thread to capture all the issues w.r.t each C250R owner.Originally posted by strikepackage View Post.....so we need to pray and hope tht things turn out well....may be if v can reach a bigger media to bring to light the probz of the CBR it would bring much change....Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day
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or Paris or Melbourne...Originally posted by aargee View PostThis is not England nor Berlin; you're in India & be a Roman in Rome!!! We're in a third world country & not in a developed nation & that brings a lot of quality difference in life.
Honda need to realize they aren't selling bullock-carts...
they're selling someone a bike worth 1.5 lac...
and they HAVE TO offer service that matches that level.
i am seriously shocked at how disappointing the CBR250R has turned out for so many people.
never really expected Honda to drop the ball like they have with this bike.
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Lol!!!or Paris or Melbourne
And xionite, 1.5L is again perspective. For a guy who could barely afford 3L, 1.5L is not big money. But for a person who could barely afford 1L, 1.5 is big money
You will see that; not sure how many people are trying to look the positive sides, I'd posted in this thread that all HMSI ASC are asked to make a A/C room for servicing C250R. So that's just one step towards matching the level of service I guess.and they HAVE TO offer service that matches that level
Guys - pls don't over react!!! Let's respond when Amlan & Metal_Maniac put up a thread on excel to capture the issues.Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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Do any have a digital copy of user manual for CBR250R ?"you may delay, but time will not.."
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I remember DK posting one such email having a copy; pls go back few pages & I'm sure you'll find it. Its a owner's manual though.Originally posted by adisakke View PostDo any have a digital copy of user manual for CBR250R ?Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day
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1.5 lac is 1.5 lac to Honda.Originally posted by aargee View PostAnd xionite, 1.5L is again perspective. For a guy who could barely afford 3L, 1.5L is not big money. But for a person who could barely afford 1L, 1.5 is big money

that's all that matters.
when you buy a bike that's advertised as a "premium" ubercool high performing bike...
you expect a decently pleasant after sales experience.
10% of their ad budget is more than sufficient to train a few mechanics from SVCs in all major cities.Originally posted by aargee View PostI'd posted in this thread that all HMSI ASC are asked to make a A/C room for servicing C250R. So that's just one step towards matching the level of service I guess.
the CBR250R has a 6 month waiting period as it is...
so there's no real need to "boost" sales.
no spares... shoddy service... amateur mechanics...
a really bad way to run a business.
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Right, that's the service one can expect too!!!Originally posted by xionite View Post1.5 lac is 1.5 lac to Honda
Oh!!! I missed out something then. AFAIK, I only saw one ad being featured (the standard one where a guy ride C250R). Does the ad says its premium or ubercool (IIRC, its Hyundai i20 right?). Pls show me the ad, I'd like to see that.Originally posted by xionite View Postwhen you buy a bike that's advertised as a "premium" ubercool high performing bike...
you expect a decently pleasant after sales experience.
Forget 10%; I heard they did it in 1 whole week & it seems they said that this is a international model & hardly comes for any major repair & boom, mine was the biggest challenge to them lolOriginally posted by xionite View Post10% of their ad budget is more than sufficient to train a few mechanics from SVCs in all major cities.
So HMSI replace the entire block!!! Man!!! very hilarious & I'm full Lol!!!
So is Activa/TwisterOriginally posted by xionite View Postthe CBR250R has a 6 month waiting period as it is...
Yup; you harldy get to see any HMSI's ad these daysOriginally posted by xionite View Postso there's no real need to "boost" sales.
Sadly...TRUE!!! But that's the case with N250R too; pls check out the threads. Mostly the parent company comes to fix any major issues. Most minor things are fixed by PBK.Originally posted by xionite View Postno spares... shoddy service... amateur mechanics...
In a way YES & NO; Yes from our point of view; No because...that's the way the economy works on supply & demand. The business is in boom when there's demand. Now if its natural or artificial, I leave that to youOriginally posted by xionite View Posta really bad way to run a business
Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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Originally posted by xionite View Post1.5 lac is 1.5 lac to Honda.
that's all that matters.
when you buy a bike that's advertised as a "premium" ubercool high performing bike...
you expect a decently pleasant after sales experience.
Very true indeed
the CBR250R has a 6 month waiting period as it is...
so there's no real need to "boost" sales.
I think the guy's in waiting list should consider themselves lucky and blessed..they still have a choice.

no spares... shoddy service... amateur mechanics...
a really bad way to run a business.
The last i heard was Honda wanted to enter the market badly to capitalize on the 250cc demand , that the training for Mechanics was planned much later after bikes were sold...this is Honda's mistake, and not the poor mechs who desperately try to invent answers to appease frustrated owners.
.replies in boldOriginally posted by aargee View PostForget 10%; I heard they did it in 1 whole week & it seems they said that this is a international model & hardly comes for any major repair & boom, mine was the biggest challenge to them lol
So HMSI replace the entire block!!! Man!!! very hilarious & I'm full Lol!!!
Ji your entire Engine was changed, and hope they have given you the letter for RTO formalities....seriously I think we are yet to see all of the problems the CBR is likely to throw up as it ages..
Sadly...TRUE!!! But that's the case with N250R too; pls check out the threads. Mostly the parent company comes to fix any major issues. Most minor things are fixed by PBK.
The N 250 cannot be compared with the CBR for many obvious reason, nor the quality of service....Bajaj had it's service center in place for the Ninja, which is not the same with CBR....
In a way YES & NO; Yes from our point of view; No because...that's the way the economy works on supply & demand. The business is in boom when there's demand. Now if its natural or artificial, I leave that to you
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