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**prithviq8** · 06-27-2012, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by jacob View Post

Advice you not to use SPEED 97 as CBR is not capable of burning up the fuel compleately...

Shell Super is a better option ..

How do i know it? Coz i used it and now i'm back to shell super

Oh, didn't know that.. Thanks for the info mate!

Right now I'm using normal petrol from BP (regular bunk). There aren't many shell outlets in Chennai and the closest one to my place is around 10~15kms awar..

Do you feel any difference in using shell?

Originally posted by Andante View Post

Wait... What?!?
Not capable of burning up the fuel completely? What does it have in it that will not burn? Pebbles?

All fuel will burn, if not in the cylinder then in the exhaust. There's no such thing as fuel not being fully burned in an engine. Except for an extremely small amount.

Want to know for sure? Fill up with Speed97, get a PuC test done, look for the Hydrocarbons measurement. Now do the same with whatever other fuel you're interested in, again get PuC done, compare the measurements. I'm sure there will be little or no difference.

Is it okay to use speed 97? What you say does make some sense but I'm not clear on the topic yet..

**Andante** · 06-27-2012, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by prithviq8 View Post

Oh, didn't know that.. Thanks for the info mate!

Right now I'm using normal petrol from BP (regular bunk). There aren't many shell outlets in Chennai and the closest one to my place is around 10~15kms awar..

Do you feel any difference in using shell?

Is it okay to use speed 97? What you say does make some sense but I'm not clear on the topic yet..

Any type of fuel not burning completely is utter non-sense. What you're interested in is octane rating. Meaning does my bike knock when using a certain type of fuel. Higher octane ratings won't hurt, they will not help either if you engine doesn't specifically require them.

In short use what ever fuel makes your bike run smoothest.

And remember lots of people will claim something or the other, like such and such fuel will not burn properly or it will give much better mileage (like double), without ever backing it up with anything more than: "I sat on my bike drove it and my gut feeling suddenly turned into a fact."

**prithviq8** · 06-27-2012, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by Andante View Post

Any type of fuel not burning completely is utter non-sense. What you're interested in is octane rating. Meaning does my bike knock when using a certain type of fuel. Higher octane ratings won't hurt, they will not help either if you engine doesn't specifically require them.

In short use what ever fuel makes your bike run smoothest.

And remember lots of people will claim something or the other, like such and such fuel will not burn properly or it will give much better mileage (like double), without ever backing it up with anything more than: "I sat on my bike drove it and my gut feeling suddenly turned into a fact."

Thanks a lot mate! I will give speed97 a try once I find out where I get it! Have you felt any difference in using speed97 when comparing it to normal petrol? As far as tyre air is concerned, which is better nitrogen or normal air?

**Andante** · 06-27-2012, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by prithviq8 View Post

Thanks a lot mate! I will give speed97 a try once I find out where I get it! Have you felt any difference in using speed97 when comparing it to normal petrol? As far as tyre air is concerned, which is better nitrogen or normal air?

One I don't own a ceeber, I have a p220, so I can't comment what's the best for this particular bike. However, it should run properly on nearly any good quality fuel you can get in India. Honda would have considered octane rating carefully while designing the engine.

Two I use Power, but that's no reason to promote it as the best fuel. Try a few good fuel bunks and see which one gives the best results.

As for air vs nitrogen. Air is 78% nitrogen. The rest is oxygen, argon and carbon-dioxide. Filling air should not give any significant difference, as long as it's reasonably dry air.

**RanjithMN** · 06-27-2012, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by vatsa View Post

I think Cbr has 140/70 in 17. So would it match?? Also i am sure there would be a drop in performance and efficiency if we go in for a fatter rubber. infact i felt the cbr's rear tyre is bigger than it should have been.
I was thinking of replacing the rear tyre to the one that is available in r15 v2.
profile is 130/70 in 17.
would that be alright? Since its a softer compound and offers greater grip and balance.

@ranjith
I also observe u have modified the rear fender of your bike. I was thinking of a fender eliminator. Can i get better Pictures of the modified rear fender?

Im hoping the lower profile will compensate for the wider tire.No good options in the 140/70.and the KTM's looks to be good.
Anyone with any experience on the 150.60 on the CBR pls let me know

and nope my rear fendor is stock

**jacob** · 06-27-2012, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by Andante View Post

Wait... What?!?
Not capable of burning up the fuel completely? What does it have in it that will not burn? Pebbles?

All fuel will burn, if not in the cylinder then in the exhaust. There's no such thing as fuel not being fully burned in an engine. Except for an extremely small amount.

Want to know for sure? Fill up with Speed97, get a PuC test done, look for the Hydrocarbons measurement. Now do the same with whatever other fuel you're interested in, again get PuC done, compare the measurements. I'm sure there will be little or no difference.

Originally posted by Andante View Post

Any type of fuel not burning completely is utter non-sense. What you're interested in is octane rating. Meaning does my bike knock when using a certain type of fuel. Higher octane ratings won't hurt, they will not help either if you engine doesn't specifically require them.

In short use what ever fuel makes your bike run smoothest.

And remember lots of people will claim something or the other, like such and such fuel will not burn properly or it will give much better mileage (like double), without ever backing it up with anything more than: "I sat on my bike drove it and my gut feeling suddenly turned into a fact."

Well... I have used it, when i opened up the engine for the shim job to be done, the mech and i noticed red color markings (obviously from speed 97) and also the engine oil had turned red from the sediments from fuel..

Try it... test it.... and talk.... simple....

and yeah well said, lot of people will claim something, without backing up and blah blah blah..

ride safe

**aargee** · 06-27-2012, 05:47 PM

Ranjith - Did you consider if the 150 rear section will fit inside the tire hugger?

**prithviq8** · 06-27-2012, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by macharlatejas View Post

Since u r stating its a 3M sticker.can you provide us the product code so we can buy it from 3M authorised shop in hyderabad itself or if you dont know about it, you can ask ur sticker guy itself.

and by the way, thanks for the prompt reply

I talked to the sticker guy today, he told me that it was 3M vehicle safety tape. I asked him if he knew any dealers in HYD, told me that he would ask and let me know!

**afficionado** · 06-27-2012, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by Mik View Post

My bike returned me a mileage of around 35 at most places and 38 on the leh manali stretch. The 365km stretch is now actually 330 km since there is a petrol pump at Karu now. I have not yet written a trip log for this ride.
If you need some pointers for August, you could check my last years trip log http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/1...ld-ladakh.html
This was on a 220 with my wife as pillion and in terrible weather conditions.

There was hardly any slush at Rohtang compared to last year. Barely a 50m stretch where as last year it was 10 km of struggle. In August, it might be raining so the slush could be a bit more. The biggest problem i faced with the CBR was in the gravel. The stock tyres are pathetic on sandy gravel. Apart from that, be careful of the engine guard - mine cracked when it hit a rock in a water crossing in zozila. The radiator is gonna get extremely dirty and a toothbrush is compulsory for cleaning it.

Thanks for the inputs Mik.So you dint carry fuel on any stretch.Point taken about the tires,Will be careful when riding on gravel.Mine is the ABS version so braking on gravel should be safer when in a straight line at least,I hope.

Another query being,Did u get the air filter cleaned there during the ride?Is it required and Do the mechanics there have the expertise to carry out the job on the CBR?

BTW your travelogue on the 220 was amazing,hope we get similar weather during our ride

**Rider_Puneet** · 06-27-2012, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by vatsa View Post

@rider puneet
ARE your serious???

Dont you think its such a risky thing to do at such insane speeds?

Originally posted by techfreak View Post

Hey Buddy are you serious? You record at those insane speeds while riding with one hand only

Just one advice bro DON'T DO IT, not worth it.

Thanks for your concern... I know that it is risky and i m totally aware of what i did.... its just that i had no other option available at that time.... will try to get a camera mounted next time.... and not repeat it again...

Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post

what's the slip-on you are using ?

did ya also removed the cat-con ?

No, its the yoshimura full exhaust system with db killer (baffle) and it does not have cat-con....
check out this link :-
CBR250R with full exhaust system - YouTube
will upload another video without baffle soon...

**RanjithMN** · 06-27-2012, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Ranjith - Did you consider if the 150 rear section will fit inside the tire hugger?

Im not sure it will,hence looking for someone who has tried it

I really want some better tires on..esp. in these monsoons :-\

**nalir** · 06-27-2012, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by prithviq8 View Post

In which petrol bunk do you get Speed 97 in my area?

got this link from Xbhp .check it.

xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/superbike-imports/9821-list-speed-97-fuel-stations-across-india.html

**prithviq8** · 06-27-2012, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by nalir View Post

got this link from Xbhp .check it.

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/superbik...oss-india.html

Thanks a lot boss!! I will go to the near malar hospital!
Guys, Petrol prices are due to go down after the 1st of July!

**Sid85** · 06-27-2012, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by prithviq8 View Post

Guys, Petrol prices are due to go down after the 1st of July!

Really!!!!! thats a great news if it really happens. BTW, the prices in Delhi were dropped after a few days of increase. What I mean is before the increase in price normal petrol was Rs.65.66, it increased to Rs.73.xx and currently it is Rs.70.xx. Can we expect more reduction?

**prithviq8** · 06-27-2012, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Sid85 View Post

Really!!!!! thats a great news if it really happens. BTW, the prices in Delhi were dropped after a few days of increase. What I mean is before the increase in price normal petrol was Rs.65.66, it increased to Rs.73.xx and currently it is Rs.70.xx. Can we expect more reduction?

Oh, according to the local news channel's in Chennai, it seems that petrol prices are likely to be slashed by Rs.4/litre!!

But ultimately, I would not be surprised if a litre of petrol costs Rs.100. One day it will happen!

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