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  • Engine Balancer Technology in new Suzuki GS150r 2012 model

    Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
    Or change it at least in every 4000 kms as advised by Suzuki if there is a rarity of engine oils there in your area.
    You have ridden more than 6400 kms with the oil now and, I guess sludge due to the oxidization of oil has formed in the engine.
    I think an engine flushing is necessary for your bike. Or you can do a double change of oil and filter.
    As engine flushing sometimes causes gear slipping, do a double oil and oil filter change. Change the oil and filter, run the engine for a few minutes to circulate the oil, drain it, replace the oil filter and fill the oil you like again.
    All these links will be helpful to you; I hope.
    1. Understand Motorcycle Oil @ MotorCycleAnchor.COM
    2. Viscosity
    3. Motorcycle Engine Oil Article. Must read! - Team-BHP
    4. All About Motor Oil
    5. Motor Oil Myths and Facts
    6. Motorcycle Engine Oil Article. Must read! - Team-BHP

    7. http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universa...-oils-460.html




    From where did you get this information about the removal of engine balancer from our bike? As far as I know, it is still there even on the last bike reached Suzuki dealership.
    As the engine balancer technology is still in use, the question about the effects of its removal does not arise.



    Hello friends
    First thing is I really appreciate your comment to help me in selecting bike.
    Here is the link I found about this issue.

    SUZUKI GS150R, Review, Price, Parts, Accessories, Mileage, India, Engine Balancer missing in 2012 model - MouthShut.com

    Hope some one sort out this issue fully.

    Thanks again guys

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    • Originally posted by vaibhav.gharat View Post
      Hello friends
      First thing is I really appreciate your comment to help me in selecting bike.
      Here is the link I found about this issue.

      SUZUKI GS150R, Review, Price, Parts, Accessories, Mileage, India, Engine Balancer missing in 2012 model - MouthShut.com

      Hope some one sort out this issue fully.

      Thanks again guys
      Its a Fake review.If engine balancer technology is removed then vibrations in bike should be increased but its still same or less than before.I think suzuki has just removed it from specification as everyone knows about that technology is present in GS
      "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever"

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      • Originally posted by Vikshe View Post
        Though i will or no one in this forum will try to run bike on choke to see for the difference you claim , choke only provides rich mixture or excess fuel that is needed during cold starts . transmission has nothing to do with AFR. ... may be there is power transmission embedded in GS
        Thing is when the choke is applied engine RPM will be higher than 1.4K and at a little bit high RPM clutch will play little easy manner so that shifting the gear will become Easy that is the thing he feels, So for Testing purpose those who are troubling in Hard Gear shift can do a small research by just increasing the RPM around 2K and then do shifting the Gear, may be i think that it will be smooth(Don't apply the choke and Ride the bike it will suck huge Fuel)

        Other than this i cant think any gimmicks

        Originally posted by Vikshe View Post
        You cna only invert color of digits , that is white over black instead of black over white (presently) but this combination affects daylight viewing , night viewing may be a treat.steps shown on the site is tedious and risk of damaging the display .
        Changing color of backlite LED's is easier option
        Changing the SMD type LED's are much more difficulty,
        you need atleast the following things for a proper work:
        1. Micro solder(the one cell phone service people uses)
        2. Infra-Red PCB work station
        3.some basic Electronics knowledge
        4. More Patience( if not things will go wrong)

        And final thing is when replacing the SMD type LED's, should not Apply the Solder heat more then 3 seconds or else it will affect the life span of those LED's

        Originally posted by dip097 View Post
        Vikshe, changing the back light color is way too difficult than you think. First of all you have to desolder the display from the board and then desolder the LEDs. After soldering the new LEDs in place of old ones you have to solder the LCD back in position which require a lot of soldering skill and there is a risk of damaging the speedo assy itself.Reversing LCD is very easy.All you have to do is tear off the old sticker (actually it is known as polarization filter) and stick a new one upside down.
        +1
        but removing the LCD also is a risky, i had detached lots of nokia 1100 LCD's for inserting a colour image printed transparent OHP sheets between the LCD and the Polarizing plate (which will look like a colour display phone or display with a colour wallpaper)
        And while trying so i had broken some LCD's accidentally so take some care while removing the LCD.

        Note: cost of the speedo meter assembly is around : 2803/-
        Last edited by firegun; 06-13-2012, 12:50 AM.
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        • Originally posted by manas34 View Post
          Its a Fake review.If engine balancer technology is removed then vibrations in bike should be increased but its still same or less than before.I think suzuki has just removed it from specification as everyone knows about that technology is present in GS
          +++1
          Its Suzuki they dont change any core components Easily
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          • Bro I read that one need an engine wiping before changing the type of oil how to do it...bro...

            GS Rocksss....![/QUOTE]

            Engine wiping , you mean flushing , you don't require flushing , you can change mineral to semisynth to synthetic as regular oil change , synthetic to mineral may require flushing , i hope somebody may highlight in a better way.

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            • Originally posted by dip097 View Post
              Vikshe, changing the back light color is way too difficult than you think. First of all you have to desolder the display from the board and then desolder the LEDs. After soldering the new LEDs in place of old ones you have to solder the LCD back in position which require a lot of soldering skill and there is a risk of damaging the speedo assy itself.Reversing LCD is very easy.All you have to do is tear off the old sticker (actually it is known as polarization filter) and stick a new one upside down.
              Somebody had posted internal circuitry of digital consol 2/3 months ago.





              Changing the SMD type LED's are much more difficulty,
              you need atleast the following things for a proper work:
              1. Micro solder(the one cell phone service people uses)
              2. Infra-Red PCB work station
              3.some basic Electronics knowledge
              4. More Patience( if not things will go wrong)

              And final thing is when replacing the SMD type LED's, should not Apply the Solder heat more then 3 seconds or else it will affect the life span of those LED's.

              Agreed , LED specs , make ,part no should be matched ,LED require reflow oven processing with 120 deg under 3 sec.



              +1
              but removing the LCD also is a risky, i had detached lots of nokia 1100 LCD's for inserting a colour image printed transparent OHP sheets between the LCD and the Polarizing plate (which will look like a colour display phone or display with a colour wallpaper)
              And while trying so i had broken some LCD's accidentally so take some care while removing the LCD.

              Note: cost of the speedo meter assembly is around : 2803/-[/QUOTE]

              Its digital consol ( and majestic) , cost justified
              Last edited by Vikshe; 06-13-2012, 11:04 AM. Reason: change to bold

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              • Originally posted by Nihal View Post
                I read that one need an engine wiping before changing the type of oil.
                Engine wiping means engine flushing which is not advisable in a new bike. Instead, do a double change of oil filter and oil. It is safer.

                Originally posted by vaibhav.gharat View Post
                Hope some one sort out this issue fully.
                Originally posted by manas34 View Post
                Its a Fake review.If engine balancer technology is removed then vibrations in bike should be increased but its still same or less than before.I think suzuki has just removed it from specification as everyone knows about that technology is present in GS

                These kind of purposive rumors were spread earlier about the rusting of the fuel tank but the tank of my bike which was bought on 27/1/2010 is still going on without any problem after 28 months.
                Another friend there is extremely sure that the engine balancer is not there in his new bike as, as per his claim, the sound from the new bike is different and pickup is less.
                It is true that the sound is a little different and it is due to the redesigned muffler of the bike.
                The pickup has actually increased due to the modified gear ratios of the bike. It has increased in every gear as the final drive ratio now is 42/14 against the earlier 41/14.
                Removal of the engine balancer results huge vibration of the bike as manas34 said.
                If you still doubt, ask the SC engineer or any good mechanic there but not the salesman or salesgirl as they know nothing about the technology of the bike.

                Originally posted by Vikshe View Post
                Its digital consol ( and majestic) , cost justified

                And rarely replaced.

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                • Hi Guys...I saw a HID kit on Ebay...around 1200 INR, Claims its plug and play...can someone confirm if this will work..

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                  • Originally posted by ElroyD View Post
                    Did a quick search and found out that @fadeawayraj switched to the TB handle for more comfort. Interesting. But, I think I'll stay low and probably just get the stock one. Thanks!
                    My experience with TB handle bar didn't yield the expected results.
                    Expectation was/is:
                    The handle bar should be close to my arms giving me relaxed hold on the handle bar.

                    Output:
                    Though it helped me with relaxed hold on handlebar, manoeuvring wasn't easy and felt loose grip and control. (Rs. 450 for TB handlebar + Rs. 400 for handle bar weights(20 packs of kings wasted ))
                    Tried with Shogun and RD handlebar too(Had spare bars):
                    RD's: Comfortable as the stock one wrt manoeuvring, grip and control.
                    But no increase in height of the handlebar, just too wide. RVMs were like for someone else to view .
                    Shogun: Comfortable as the stock one wrt manoeuvring, grip and control.
                    Again no increase in height of the handlebar.
                    Still waiting for a resolution.

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                    • Hello my friends, You really help me out on this.
                      Now I will be 100% sure for GS 150r, previously I was driving Karizma (first model slots- amazing machine)
                      So weight is not a issue for me . Only thing bothering me was that balancer technology issue.
                      Thanks again Punarvasu for your explanation on this.
                      I will asap will book this partner.
                      Little bit excited


                      Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                      Engine wiping means engine flushing which is not advisable in a new bike. Instead, do a double change of oil filter and oil. It is safer.






                      These kind of purposive rumors were spread earlier about the rusting of the fuel tank but the tank of my bike which was bought on 27/1/2010 is still going on without any problem after 28 months.
                      Another friend there is extremely sure that the engine balancer is not there in his new bike as, as per his claim, the sound from the new bike is different and pickup is less.
                      It is true that the sound is a little different and it is due to the redesigned muffler of the bike.
                      The pickup has actually increased due to the modified gear ratios of the bike. It has increased in every gear as the final drive ratio now is 42/14 against the earlier 41/14.
                      Removal of the engine balancer results huge vibration of the bike as manas34 said.
                      If you still doubt, ask the SC engineer or any good mechanic there but not the salesman or salesgirl as they know nothing about the technology of the bike.



                      And rarely replaced.

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                      • Originally posted by KIRTIMANNAN View Post
                        Hi Guys...I saw a HID kit on Ebay...around 1200 INR, Claims its plug and play...can someone confirm if this will work..
                        If you are in Bangalore just check with the below address:

                        Motor Cycle Shringar,
                        53/1, sharada complex, A.M.Lane,
                        Kalasipalayam New Extension,
                        Bangalore-560002
                        Ph:9448343890

                        or
                        you can find lots of shops in JC road

                        Note: better do good bargain to reduce the cost
                        For Free Android Applications click below

                        http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975390

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                        • Originally posted by punarvasu View Post


                          In my experience, rewinding of the coil or converting to full DC is not affecting the mileage significantly. The result of the test ride before and after modification was the same 70 kml.
                          And I think the stock battery is enough even for HID after making the bike full DC.
                          Are you sure of 70 Kmpl , this milege is reserved for 100 cc bikes , any tips to achieve this efficiency

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                          • Guys, can you update me on the feed back about the 2012 GS 150R? Have they arrested the tank rusting problem? And more importantly, have they cut any corners in the new bike? Is it true they have done away with the engine balancer?

                            I may be in the market for a 150cc bike shortly and this bike is my first choice.

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                            • Originally posted by Gansan View Post
                              Guys, can you update me on the feed back about the 2012 GS 150R? Have they arrested the tank rusting problem? And more importantly, have they cut any corners in the new bike? Is it true they have done away with the engine balancer?

                              I may be in the market for a 150cc bike shortly and this bike is my first choice.
                              Dear Friend , i am using 2012 model since 5 months , no rusting till date, please ensure you visit ASC and meet service manager were you propose to book your GS, they will surely answer your quiries , honestly.
                              There seems slight changes in muffler , cosmetic changes , but weight , size , specs remains same.

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                              • Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                                Ya but on sleepy days I will try a kick start in the bike to see if I wake up

                                Originally posted by Vikshe View Post
                                Though i will or no one in this forum will try to run bike on choke to see for the difference you claim , choke only provides rich mixture or excess fuel that is needed during cold starts . transmission has nothing to do with AFR. ... may be there is power transmission embedded in GS
                                Originally posted by firegun View Post
                                Thing is when the choke is applied engine RPM will be higher than 1.4K and at a little bit high RPM clutch will play little easy manner so that shifting the gear will become Easy that is the thing he feels, So for Testing purpose those who are troubling in Hard Gear shift can do a small research by just increasing the RPM around 2K and then do shifting the Gear, may be i think that it will be smooth(Don't apply the choke and Ride the bike it will suck huge Fuel)

                                Other than this i cant think any gimmicks
                                I agree with you both. What I did was a mistake. Its not really advisable to try that. But I just wanted to know how that impacted the gear shifting. What firegun says makes sense. Thanks!

                                Originally posted by firegun View Post
                                If you are in Bangalore just check with the below address:

                                Motor Cycle Shringar,
                                53/1, sharada complex, A.M.Lane,
                                Kalasipalayam New Extension,
                                Bangalore-560002
                                Ph:9448343890

                                or
                                you can find lots of shops in JC road

                                Note: better do good bargain to reduce the cost
                                Bro, the one that is mentioned in eBay is 8000K. Never buy anything other than 4300K if you really intend to use if for better lighting. Everything else is just disco lights. They will not give good illumination under different climatic conditions, cause headache and are big time cop magnets.
                                2004 Bajaj Discover 125 DTSi - 26000 KM - Sold
                                2012 Suzuki GS150R

                                My travel blog: http://blogofharish.wordpress.com/category/bike-trips/

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