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  • Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Originally posted by samcan123 View Post
    ...

    Update:
    As I mentioned earlier, the engine tends to become noisy (sounds like a knocking sound) between 3K-4K RPM range.
    If you're talking about vibration feeling you get around 3.5K RPM then we(earlier owners) called it `resonance`. We used a rubber bush to minimise the effect. I bought one from Bajaj spares shop for ₹ 5/-

    gmagesh
    has a link in his signature for the procedure.
    Edit: here the page - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/815716-post16175.html

    Originally posted by samcan123 View Post
    ...
    plus a number of people asking about the bike in signals and petrol pumps. I didn't expect it to be a head turner, but surprisingly it is may be because of less number of GS on road.
    Yes, that's the reason; welcome to the club. Looking at the bike & after being impressed by the tank size, people at my home town were convinced that it(GS150R) can pull easily with 3 people on it!


    Originally posted by Nikhil Poddar View Post
    20W40 is recommended in the manual.

    The available choices in motul 7100 are 10W40 or 20W50.

    Please suggest.
    Like I said earlier, go with Motul 7100 4T 10W-40. Also please don't forget to share where you purchased it & the price you paid.
    Last edited by SparKot; 04-04-2014, 04:59 PM.
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    • Re: My Night Fury - The GS150R

      Originally posted by samcan123 View Post
      Update:
      As I mentioned earlier, the engine tends to become noisy (sounds like a knocking sound) between 3K-4K RPM range.
      In which gear?.

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      • Re: Suzuki GS150R

        Originally posted by samcan123 View Post
        I would try capturing the sound and post it this weekend. It actually sounds similar to the knocking sound we usually hear when we ride on a higher gear in slower speeds and the engine is not able to pull the bike. It is evident between 3K-4K rpm and then gradually fades away.
        I had complained this issue in 3 different service centres in Chennai - Avenue Suzuki (worst customer experience as far as bike service and customer service is concerned), Pramaan Suzuki and ABT Suzuki. All the svc centres say that the sound is expected in GS and it is not an abnormal sound. My trustworthy mechanic, though has not worked on a GS before, with his many years of experience says that the sound seems to be due to high compression. He says that it'll not affect the engine life but the sound may be there forever if it's not rectified.

        I already faced the hazzle of going back and forth between difference svc centres reporting the problem. I did not want to spoil my peace of mind by trying to ask the svc guys sort out the issue which they say is normal. So, as of now, I am trying to ignore the sound and enjoy the ride.

        And yes, the service technicians have their own imaginations. The svc technician in Avenue Suzuki told me that the sound is nothing but the silencer beat. He compared Unicorn and Apache and said that the newer versions of GS has an open mouth silencer like Apache and thus it is louder . They consider the customers to be so naive. I just left the place since I thought there was no point in explaining him that it's not the sound from the silencer but from the engine .
        The GS I test rode in Chennai, Nandanam showroom had the same noise and even I had mentioned this when I wrote down my riding impressions in this thread.
        I asked the sales guy about this and his answer was - "the bike's PDI is not done, and will be taken care during PDI"

        And, this was the only thing that annoyed me during test ride.

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        • Re: Suzuki GS150R

          I went for the 8th service today and got a gift along with the delivery. A dent (small one) on the right side pf the tank.

          All thanks to these guys parking the bike in cramped spaces, and they claim this is their biggest showroom in bangalore.

          When I asked them about it, they just asked me how did I manage a dent. Sarcastic.

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          Regards,
          Venky

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          • 19th service update

            Servicing Done for my GS @27218Km. Bill amount is Rs 1134(First time my service bill crossed 1000 Rs)

            Engine Oil - 270
            Oil Filter - 45
            Spark Plug - 100
            Rear Break Shoe + labour - 369 (314+55)
            Paid Service - 350

            Apart from regular Oil filter and spark plug,
            In last service i replaced Air Filter(1st component replacement) even though mechanic said its not needed.
            In this service rear break shoe component replaced in my GS from 3.7 years(current Odo at 27300).

            No complaints for suzuki from my side :-). I always do tank full. The lowest/Highest mileage achieved is 52/64. The average always fluctuates between 52 to 60.
            The longest trip on GS is Mumbai to Hyderabad(700+Km) in 15 hours.

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            • Re: Suzuki GS150R

              Originally posted by SparKot View Post
              If you're talking about vibration feeling you get around 3.5K RPM then we(earlier owners) called it `resonance`. We used a rubber bush to minimise the effect. I bought one from Bajaj spares shop for ₹ 5/-

              gmagesh
              has a link in his signature for the procedure.
              Edit: here the page - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/815716-post16175.html
              I did not refer to the vibration due to resonance. I agree it is quite normal and is not specific to GS. I was talking about a knocking sound from the engine.
              I tried taking a video of the sound but the video doesn't do any justice at all. One has to hear it practically while riding.

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              Originally posted by dip097 View Post
              In which gear?.
              Irrespective of the gear, the noise just crops up betwen 3-4K RPM and then fades out gradually.

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              Originally posted by SatSon View Post
              The GS I test rode in Chennai, Nandanam showroom had the same noise and even I had mentioned this when I wrote down my riding impressions in this thread.
              I asked the sales guy about this and his answer was - "the bike's PDI is not done, and will be taken care during PDI"

              And, this was the only thing that annoyed me during test ride.
              So, does this mean the noise is the nature of GS engines? I don't want to make an issue out of this problem again with the service guys, unless it is actually a problem really. If GS bikes are meant to have that sound (GS owners can enlighten me on this), then I am perfectly fine with that. I just wanted to make sure nothing's wrong with my new bike.

              And regarding the response from the sales guy you met.. The service guys are themselves not very confident in some svc centres, how can we expect the sales guy to be aware of such engine sounds?
              --I STOP ON RED--
              Hero Honda Hunk -->
              Yamaha RX135 4S --> Suzuki GS150R

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              • Re: My Night Fury - The GS150R

                Originally posted by samcan123 View Post
                Update:
                As I mentioned earlier, the engine tends to become noisy (sounds like a knocking sound) between 3K-4K RPM range. The service guys say that this sound is expected from GS because of the engine balancer. I also rode another GS which also had this weird knocking sound. The bike is pretty smooth except for this sound. Anybody else facing such abnormal sound? I heard that even bikes like FZ has an engine balancer. So, I doubt if this is the real cause for the sound. The service supervisor says that GS has a double balancer. Is it true?

                Anyways, I do not regret one bit on buying a GS. Yes, it isn't sporty as an Apache or eye-catchy as an FZ, but it does it's job absolutely perfect with exceptional ride quality and very good mileage, plus a number of people asking about the bike in signals and petrol pumps. I didn't expect it to be a head turner, but surprisingly it is may be because of less number of GS on road.
                Hi,

                I have not been very regular here off late. I completely empathize and understand your concern. I had ranted about this noise around 1 year ago when I bought the bike.

                I hope you are referring to a knocking noise like the engine is struggling. This is normal in the initial days and would reduce as you use the bike more, feel free to use the power mode and run ur engine at higher revs until a couple of more services.

                I regularly run on power mode in city and get 48 to 50 as mileage so economy is no concern.

                Sent from my GT-P3100 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                Regards,
                Venky

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                • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                  Originally posted by samcan123 View Post
                  I did not refer to the vibration due to resonance. I agree it is quite normal and is not specific to GS. I was talking about a knocking sound from the engine.
                  I tried taking a video of the sound but the video doesn't do any justice at all. One has to hear it practically while riding.

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                  Irrespective of the gear, the noise just crops up betwen 3-4K RPM and then fades out gradually.

                  ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----


                  So, does this mean the noise is the nature of GS engines? I don't want to make an issue out of this problem again with the service guys, unless it is actually a problem really. If GS bikes are meant to have that sound (GS owners can enlighten me on this), then I am perfectly fine with that. I just wanted to make sure nothing's wrong with my new bike.

                  And regarding the response from the sales guy you met.. The service guys are themselves not very confident in some svc centres, how can we expect the sales guy to be aware of such engine sounds?
                  My bike has a small power drop/turbo lag(kind of) at 4000/5000RPM. But I don't hear any knocking sound like we do when climbing an uphill in high gear. The master technician at service center said it is normal and it is due to the air flow/suction through the petrol tank.

                  My bike was completely normal until I once ran out of petrol and thus the problem started (I don't know when new because i never crossed 4500 RPM limit during initial 1000KMs). Even after filling the petrol engine refused to climb above 4500 RPM. But after riding few 100 KMs bike started to become normal. Currently i feel a small power drop at 5000 RPM and that too not as frequent as before.

                  There can be circuits in the carburetor that become active at higher RPMs. There is also a circuit for sucking blow by gases (the gases that leaks out of the combustion chamber).
                  I cannot say what exactly is happening in GS, but from my riding experience, this particular problem tends to disappear after few 100 KMs.

                  If you are not satisfied with the service center you can contact Suzuki through their website and there technical expert will contact you.
                  Last edited by dip097; 04-06-2014, 02:28 PM.

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                  • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                    today i completed 1000 kms & took my bike for servicing. Everything was good before it. But after servicing vibration noise is coming from front faring of bike. I was there at the time of servicing and watched the mechanic while he was washing bike. Washing was with very high pressure water jet & at the time of washing he aimed water jet on headlamp constantly , when i asked not do it then he reduced water jet speed. But i think vibrations are because of it only. Does someone know how to rectify it now ?

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                    • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                      Originally posted by Suzuki_777 View Post
                      today i completed 1000 kms & took my bike for servicing. Everything was good before it. But after servicing vibration noise is coming from front faring of bike. I was there at the time of servicing and watched the mechanic while he was washing bike. Washing was with very high pressure water jet & at the time of washing he aimed water jet on headlamp constantly , when i asked not do it then he reduced water jet speed. But i think vibrations are because of it only. Does someone know how to rectify it now ?
                      Even mine had some rattling noise from the headlamp cowl. I told the service guys during my first service and they resolved it. I guess they would insert a piece of cardboard/sponge to hold the headlight assembly tight.
                      --I STOP ON RED--
                      Hero Honda Hunk -->
                      Yamaha RX135 4S --> Suzuki GS150R

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                      • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                        Originally posted by Suzuki_777 View Post
                        But after servicing vibration noise is coming from front faring of bike. Washing was with very high pressure water jet ... i think vibrations are because of it only.
                        Originally posted by samcan123 View Post
                        Even mine had some rattling noise from the headlamp cowl... I guess they would insert a piece of cardboard/sponge to hold the headlight assembly tight.
                        The instrument panel is fitted on rubber bushes and is supposed to vibrate a little. Washing with high pressure water or tap water does not cause vibration.
                        If the gap between the console and ignition switch or headlight assembly is less than required, get it checked and adjusted. Or try to enjoy that vibration if it is not an annoyance instead of inserting something for tightness.

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                        • Re: My Night Fury - The GS150R

                          Originally posted by samcan123 View Post
                          I was talking about a knocking sound from the engine. I tried taking a video of the sound but the video doesn't do any justice at all. One has to hear it practically while riding.

                          Very true. Yesterday, just for fun, used a vintage recording device (USB storage + MP3 player) in an attempt to record my GS's engine sound. I mounted it near the starter motor. Here is the "video" of the sound. Planning to again do the same by mounting it near the exhaust.



                          Note:

                          1. Sounds way too different, more like a Bajaj autorickshaw/UV's diesel engine in the recording. Actual engine sound/exhaust note is fantastic!
                          2. At no point I exceeded 4000-4500 RPM.

                          When I first played it on my lap, i was .

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                          • Re: My Night Fury - The GS150R

                            Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
                            Sounds way too different, more like a Bajaj autorickshaw/UV's diesel engine in the recording. Actual engine sound/exhaust note is fantastic!
                            Just try to ride the bike as it is as your bike’s engine and the sound from is perfectly OK. If not convinced, record another GS’s engine sound and compare. The sound from the engine you hear while riding, riding as a pillion rider, as a pedestrian or from a recorded source is totally different.
                            Use the free time you spend around the engine to listen to its sound to wash and polish the bike, to lubricate the chain and to adjust its slackness, to check the tyre inflation etc.
                            I hope I am correct.
                            The Armor All wash and wax shampoo and their polish I was using are over. So bought their shampoo and Ultra Shine Butter Smooth Wax a few days ago. It seems to be better than their Wax & Polish wax.


                            Washed and waxed about a fortnight ago. Just cleaned with a piece of cloth now.

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                            • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                              Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                              The instrument panel is fitted on rubber bushes and is supposed to vibrate a little. Washing with high pressure water or tap water does not cause vibration.
                              If the gap between the console and ignition switch or headlight assembly is less than required, get it checked and adjusted. Or try to enjoy that vibration if it is not an annoyance instead of inserting something for tightness.
                              There were no vibration noise before servicing. But now it is therer . And it quite loud to make me Irritate . Today i will ask service people to rectify it if possible wihtout outing any addtiona packaging.

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                              • Re: My Night Fury - The GS150R

                                Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                                Just try to ride the bike as it is as your bike’s engine and the sound from is perfectly OK. If not convinced, record another GS’s engine sound and compare. The sound from the engine you hear while riding, riding as a pillion rider, as a pedestrian or from a recorded source is totally different.
                                Use the free time you spend around the engine to listen to its sound to wash and polish the bike, to lubricate the chain and to adjust its slackness, to check the tyre inflation etc.
                                I hope I am correct.
                                +1. Am not unhappy with the engine sound. I love the way it is from day 1. I actually tried to say the recording sounds too different from real.

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