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  • Originally posted by akfara View Post
    hi guys read this article in some other web site ,

    There is a new comment on the post "Coming soon Suzuki GS150R".
    suzuki gs150r review,mileage,engine,comparison,photos,speedomete r,prize

    Author: Antony
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    Many people are going on and on that the Unicorn engine is smooth, unicorn engine is smooth.....

    Yes, unicorn engine is smooth, but Gs150 engine is also smooth. The main difference is Unicorn is silent and smooth and Gs150 is grunty and smooth. So, dont confuse silent and smooth. Every engine has its own sound/tone, and this sound/tone depends to a large extent on the exhaust and engine CDI timing setup also. The herohonda Hunk has same unicorn engine, but the hunk sounds louder because of the different exhaust. So, do you think hunk engine is not smooth? Engines of Gs150r, hunk, fz16 are grunty and smooth. Many true bikers, in fact, want a good exhaust tone from their bikes, becaue it gives them the feeling of power and also lets them know exactly how the bike engine behaves. For that matter, Apache and Pulsar engines are also good, but pulsar engines tend to give problem soon after 3-4 years and require more maintainence, again depending on rider. But again, all bikes need maintainence.

    One more fact is all engines vibrate. Yes, unicorn, gs150, cbzx, fz16, apache, pulsar, etc., all engines vibrate. But the difference is, in unicorn, gs150, fz16, and cbzx the engines are mounted to the bike frame/chassis in such a way that engine vibrations are not transferred to the frame/chassis of the bike. Thus, we cannot feel the vibrations on the handle and footpegs. This is where the apache and pular lack. The engine vibrations in Apache and pulsar are transferred to the bike frame/chassis and felt by the rider on the handle and footpegs. Although, this vibration problem seems to be solved to a large extent in the new Apaches and pulsars. But i have to say, in every bike the engine vibrations are felt more at particular engine rpms.

    Another important factor in bikes is the gearbox. This is where the pulsar is not so smooth. Every bike gearbox is setup differently, so some bikes like Fz16 have good initial and mid-range pickup but lack top-end speed, so if you are riding a fz16 easily in city traffic, you will have difficulty overtaking cabs/cars traveling on highways at say 65-70 kmph. Bikes like gs150r lack initial pickup but have good mid-range and top-end speed, so you can really enjoy highways and long roads on Gs150r. Bikes like cbz, apache, and pulsar have good initial and mid-range pickup, but vibrate a lot at speeds of 70-80 kmph. Fz16, Apache, pulsar, Cbzx, Hunk all have better initial pickup than Unicorn and Gs150r. Unicorn has slightly better low-end pickup than gs150r, both Unicorn and Gs150r have equal mid-range pickup, but Gs150 has better top-end pickup than unicorn. Gs150r is slowest in 0-60 kmph, while gs150r is fastest in 0-100 kmph. So, if you are riding a Gs150, when the signal light turns green, Apache, pulsar, cbz, fz16 and even unicorn will move before you and you will be last to move, but you will be first to reach the next signal on Gs150r, only if the next signal is a bit far. Thats the difference. Again, the 6th gear in Gs150r is an advantage, it keeps the bike smooth even at high speeds.

    Each bike has different riding posture and gear lever/footpeg and handlebar position. So, better take a test ride to see if the bike riding posture suits you. Also, monoshocks are good to take sharp turns and stability, but pillion comfort is questionable. Twin gas-shocks are better for bad roads and pillion comfort. Also, unicorn monoshock does not have linkage. Yam-R15 has linkage monoshock. I hope honda also fit linkage monoshock in unicorn in future.

    One thing where Honda, Suzuki and Yamaha score is the quality of their bikes. Although Honda treat us Indians like second-grade and give us old technology, but still good quality old technology. Gs150r is definitely very well built, and fit and finish of Gs150r is definitely better than Unicorn.


    Given the wide difference in features such as Digital speedometer, Mileage, monoshock/twin gas-charged shock aborbers, front and rear disk-brake, rider and pillion seat height/width, seating posture, footpeg/gear lever position, LED taillamps, looks/style, colors available, etc., then you have to decide which bikes suits your age, personality, and driving style and which among this is giving you more features/value for money. Sales/service network should not be a problem with all bikes, unless you are living in a far village which has no dealer.
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    GS150R is slow in initial pickup because of the The engine balancer
    technology:
    In simple term it need to rotate another wheel which is inside the Engine hence its slow at initial pickup

    Engine balancer explained:
    Engine balancer shaft is inside the engine. what the hell the balancer shaft is doing inside the engine? when the piston moves upward, this balancer shaft pulls the engine down with same amount of force. And when the piston move downwards, the balancer shaft pushes the engine upwards with the same amount of force. This balancer shaft also located on a rubber damper. Rubber damper is an arrangement made out of rubber bush. So the vibrations comes out of this bike is NIL even at 8500 RPM

    Note this technology is available in Yamaha R15 also
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    • Originally posted by MSN1 View Post
      GS150R is slow in initial pickup because of the The engine balancer
      technology:
      In simple term it need to rotate another wheel which is inside the Engine hence its slow at initial pickup

      Engine balancer explained:
      Engine balancer shaft is inside the engine. what the hell the balancer shaft is doing inside the engine? when the piston moves upward, this balancer shaft pulls the engine down with same amount of force. And when the piston move downwards, the balancer shaft pushes the engine upwards with the same amount of force. This balancer shaft also located on a rubber damper. Rubber damper is an arrangement made out of rubber bush. So the vibrations comes out of this bike is NIL even at 8500 RPM
      Engine balancer shaft will engage only in 6th gear, its less pick up is because of GS's weight. GS is heaviest in 150cc so slowest

      the balancing what you said in done by counter weights, balancer shaft will try to minimize the second harmonic(vibrations which occur twice the speed of crank shaft rotation). Rubber bush is there to engage this balancing shaft smoothly

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      • Originally posted by ssivakumar.r View Post
        Engine balancer shaft will engage only in 6th gear, its less pick up is because of GS's weight. GS is heaviest in 150cc so slowest

        the balancing what you said in done by counter weights, balancer shaft will try to minimize the second harmonic(vibrations which occur twice the speed of crank shaft rotation). Rubber bush is there to engage this balancing shaft smoothly
        Actually this info was told by the service engineer in bangalore millers road suzuki
        moreover i saw somewhere in the web also they mentioned engine has to rotate another wheel in the engine hence its slow in initial pickup

        shiva Thank you for providing the clarity
        Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity

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        • @BLITZ, lovely experience. Guess what?
          I read this story yesterday morning. At noon I had to go out with family in my Esteem. Very low on fuel that needs emergency refil. Forgot wallet. Wife said she has Rs 200 so moved on. Just before entering petrol pump she said she too doesn't have any in THIS purse . Mid day sun was hot and the car ran on AC in city for 25 KMs before coming back home without a hitch!!! Heck, this old 2001 model 78K KMs run Esteem still gives me 14 KMPL in city with a/c - with clutch plates showing signs of wear out!

          Originally posted by ssivakumar.r View Post
          Engine balancer shaft will engage only in 6th gear, its less pick up is because of GS's weight. GS is heaviest in 150cc so slowest
          It is not just about the weight. It is about the gears. Yes, the GS 150R is the heaviest 150cc but most other 150cc bikes are just about 3 to 8 KG's lighter. Maximum 15 KG's lighter.

          Compare this to the difference in weight among us the riders. We generally vary from 65 KGs to 85 KGs.

          The GS 150R is slower in 0-60 than other 150's not by a big margin. And then, it has oodles of low end torque that makes your low speed riding easier. It is then the fastest 150cc for 0-100. I believe it is a very good package.

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          • Apache 180 vibrates like the tail of a rattle snake.pulsar is ok.GS is the smoothest i have ever ridden

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            • When is the Next GS150R Service Camp @ Bangalore

              Somebody please tell me

              When is the Next GS150R Service Camp @ Bangalore

              My GS150R is in good Cndtn but giving low mileage (43 to 48 City) want to check and improve Mileage
              just crossed 1050 kms
              Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity

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              • Originally posted by MSN1 View Post
                Somebody please tell me

                When is the Next GS150R Service Camp @ Bangalore

                My GS150R is in good Cndtn but giving low mileage (43 to 48 City) want to check and improve Mileage
                just crossed 1050 kms
                I don't think there will be any service camps in Bangalore again..
                it was already conducted in February..

                Why dont you just ask the SC to check mileage during next service..
                i'm not sure if it will help though.

                Even i'm getting 47km/l last two times that i filled
                but that might be because i tried touching 8k rpm in all gears
                and after riding a p220 last week its been hard keeping rpm below 6k.

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                • Originally posted by MSN1 View Post
                  Somebody please tell me

                  My GS150R is in good Cndtn but giving low mileage (43 to 48 City) want to check and improve Mileage
                  just crossed 1050 kms
                  You are still going through the running in phase so don't just worry about the mileage . Engine friction is high in this phase, mileage is expected to go up once you complete couple of services. And for now don't worry about mileage , rev freely through out gears and ride within the limits .
                  Have a safe ride.........
                  Well-trained reflexes are quicker than luck.........

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                  • Originally posted by animeher View Post
                    Hey shadowfax, thanks for the service camp info. I serviced my bike around 10 days ago Still would go to the camp and see whether they change the rectifier. Will PM you my number.
                    During my second service i mentioned that i read online the rectifier are being replaced under warranty as mine is from xxxxAA series. The SC guy acted innnocent and asked wat is the prob, i said headlite he weak, he promptly noted it down mentioning replacement. (this is airport road suzuki,bangalore)


                    This is just for info FYI dont get frightened newbies
                    Second day after service i was zooming(70-80) on inner ring road at around 11pm and when i stopped at signal n bike stalled. I tried starting it but it did not start. Then i notice fuel coming out of tube hanging out below the Fuel tank. I was frightened sick. But I was sure that bike will start. It will not ditch me . I waited to for 10-15 mins on road to check if any other GS pass thru. Luckily found a guy on Orange GS. Ran to him while he waited for signal. I cheked his bike also had that tube hanging open. Got relieved that its not tube problem. Pushed the bike for about 1 km to nearest probable mechanic . But it was closed. I waited for 5 more mins and it started. I was right though bit scared. Next day i went back and complained about it.

                    They checked it and said some carbon was deposited and fuel was overflowing thru the tube.

                    Neways if any of you guys face this issue dont worry just wait for a while keep kicking. Carbon will eventually unblock .

                    I just wanted to ask what are the best ways to check mileage. I knw R-to-R. I dont want to try full tank as it will mean 20 xtra-kg of fuel to push around .

                    Happy riding.

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                    • That is the fuel overflow pipe, all bikes are supposed to have one overflow pipe for fuel&another one for battery acid.
                      Did you leave the bike parked on sidestand with a lot of fuel in the tank? It overflows in such cases. But nothing to worry about if that happens. Just turn the fuel cock to off position&ride till the clogged fuel in the pipe is used up. Once the bike starts sputtering, turn it to on position&continue riding happily!
                      As for mileage, I use the R-R method, with an even amount of fuel, 10 litres.
                      Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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                      • Hi guys,

                        Posting here after a very long time.

                        Nice to see many GS owners - both in the thread and the roads

                        I have recovered from my accident and has covered 1000km (Hope many know about my accident )

                        5100 on the ODO. My bike was a bit rough between 1000km - 4900km... But Now the engine has become very smooth. I could feel it clearly .

                        Not pushing my baby hard these days (strict advise by my mom)


                        Wonderful bike Happy riding

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                        • @Bubbly:

                          Good to hear from you buddy. Ride safe. Happy riding with GS.

                          Thats what my SC guys told, wait till the third service and the engine would have settled down nice and smooth.
                          Quit tabulating grudges. Let it off. Discuss it, then trash it, don't recycle it.

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                          • Bought a helmet locker from the Honda Showroom. I thought it would fit in my GS, but since the rear portion of the grab rail is thicker in GS it did not fit.

                            Only option was to put it in the side of the grab rail, which will leave my helmet hanging at the side. I decided against it and gave that locker to my friend who owns a Xtreme. (Is there an helmet locker for GS? Or one which fits GS?)

                            Finally bought a bicycle locker with number lock . Will keep the lock in the tank pouch when not in use. It was not what I wanted but Simple, easy and Neat.
                            Last edited by Joey; 04-05-2010, 07:58 PM.
                            Quit tabulating grudges. Let it off. Discuss it, then trash it, don't recycle it.

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                            • Guys, quick question here.. Anyone who bought a 2010 GS model facing rusting issues? Just want to make sure it is rectified in the current lot..

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                              • Originally posted by AnoopGeorge View Post
                                Apache 180 vibrates like the tail of a rattle snake.
                                Agreed it vibrates,but not that much
                                The Magician"

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