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  • #12226
    @Drifty
    Thanks for explaining the whole purpose of SAI unit. Could not understand the whole part as me being a noob on motorcycle technical stuff. But happy for the little i've learned.
    The Apache is ever willing to red line each cog, but the Rider ain't. Enjoy RTR, Safely. Period.

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    • #12227
      Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
      No Idea, post pic here & experts will tell you by looking at it ... Here is my Issue :- After few kilometers when engine heats up bike feels very stress in between 3-7k rpm range, like I am riding at 9000rpm & i gets feeling like i am runing one gear short in each cog :O, gear shifting has become very rough too (in that time), very scratchy noise from engine also throttle seems to be bit tough need to tiwst bitt harder to move vehicle (in that rpm range) but it vanishes when I ride my bike above 100kp/h for 1-2 minute & then it becomes smoother as ever good throttle response & the tune exhaust note ...
      Check the oil viscosity,change if it is time Try using Shell ax7
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      • #12228
        Originally posted by ekm-biker View Post
        Check the oil viscosity,change if it is time Try using Shell ax7
        Already done twice, tested with Tvs Tru4, Shell & Motul ... nothing works changed oil Filters too everytime ....
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        • #12229
          Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
          I thot engine compression braking is when you downshift to a lower gear to get the speed down. Thank God I didn't try it. So engine braking is just letting go of the throttle. Thanks guys.. N nobody replied to my query about rear suspensions.. Please do reply..

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          Thats engine braking only. Anytime when the speed reduces because of engine, its engine braking. Even in the case mentioned by you, when you shift to the lower gear, the revvs set in quite high for the gear you get to. So, as the throttle is not open, the engine tends to go towards its idle revvs and and the same principle of engine braking applies. Hope its clear now. But do not do that unnecessarily because if the revvs set in too high for the smaller gear, you're redlining the engine in a more harsher way. And I guess you know the effects redlining engine too often.
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          • #12230
            Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

            Yes I do. Will not try it. But could someone please respond to the suspensions query??
            My question was if anyone tried changing rear suspension settings..
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            • #12231
              Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
              Yes I do. Will not try it. But could someone please respond to the suspensions query??
              My question was if anyone tried changing rear suspension settings..
              Sent from my WT19i using Tapatalk 2
              Rear suspension setting means actually what ? what you wanna do ? wanna change Fork? wanna see if its fine? wanna do some adjustmen (if yes then whY?) ....


              I"ve heard some basic method of rear suspension setting but first tell whats your concern is
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              • #12232
                Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
                Rear suspension setting means actually what ? what you wanna do ? wanna change Fork? wanna see if its fine? wanna do some adjustmen (if yes then whY?) ....


                I"ve heard some basic method of rear suspension setting but first tell whats your concern is
                Not change it. The suspensions cone with a lever to change from hard to soft n vice versa. That one.

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                Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                Break-in tension? Read this.

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                • #12233
                  You are feeling your suspension hard or soft ?


                  Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                  Not change it. The suspensions cone with a lever to change from hard to soft n vice versa. That one.

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                  • #12234
                    Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                    Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
                    You are feeling your suspension hard or soft ?
                    Shaby, I'm not having a problem. I wanna know if anyone tried to change those settings bro. I wanna know if it effects cornering and stability.

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                    Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                    Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                    Break-in tension? Read this.

                    Love camping and riding? Google - On Rustic Routes.

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                    • #12235
                      Yes obviously it will, keeping soft will make it incline or dive early, quickly to the ground while cornering ...
                      hard results in drifting ;.....


                      Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                      Shaby, I'm not having a problem. I wanna know if anyone tried to change those settings bro. I wanna know if it effects cornering and stability.

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                      • #12236
                        Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                        Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
                        Yes obviously it will, keeping soft will make it incline or dive early, quickly to the ground while cornering ...
                        hard results in drifting ;.....
                        So basically, it's to help with cornering.. Does making it hard increase straight line stability?
                        I also wanted at ask, during break in, does one have to maintain <4k rpm all the time? Won't opening the throttle and raising the revs to say 5k help mate the parts better? I was just reading up on motoman break in. Seems like a fool thing to do, but does make sense.
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                        Last edited by madhav766; 09-26-2012, 08:03 AM.
                        Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                        Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                        Break-in tension? Read this.

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                        • #12237
                          Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                          I do not mean that we should keep the bike going at high rpms, just once in a while to get better speed variations and mating of parts.

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                          Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                          Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                          Break-in tension? Read this.

                          Love camping and riding? Google - On Rustic Routes.

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                          • #12238
                            Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                            I do not mean that we should keep the bike going at high rpms, just once in a while to get better speed variations and mating of parts.

                            Sent from my WT19i using Tapatalk 2
                            Madhav please refrain from making back to back posts.

                            During Run-In/ Break-In, you should definitely try those variations in RPM. At the same time, don't let the engine jerk because of higher gear/very low RPM for a particular gear. It can be very fatal and AVOID it in a NEW engine. Ensure that you gradually increase the level of each and everything you do.
                            And one or two occasional bursts upto 70kmph [or around 6.5-7k RPM in fifth gear] will actually do you more good.

                            And yes, maintaining 4k RPM is just a thumb rule, the underlying point is NOT to STRESS the infant engine and to allow and let the proper MATING of piston,cylinder and other moving parts. Its therefore advisable to do a LOT of gear variations in the RUN-IN period. It will decrease the mileage. But once proper RUN-IN is completed [It will take around 5000 kms for the engine to be properly set] you will start reaping the benefits
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                            • #12239
                              Originally posted by Drifty View Post

                              First of all check the brake pads and rear disc.If they are good,remove the rear caliper assembly & brake cam,apply sufficient amount of grease on the caliper pins and also on the slots where the caliper pin fit.You can apply some grease on the back side of the brake pads too for peace of mind.This should eliminate that noise.
                              Thanks Drifty
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                              • #12240
                                Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                                Originally posted by jsg View Post
                                Madhav please refrain from making back to back posts.

                                During Run-In/ Break-In, you should definitely try those variations in RPM. At the same time, don't let the engine jerk because of higher gear/very low RPM for a particular gear. It can be very fatal and AVOID it in a NEW engine. Ensure that you gradually increase the level of each and everything you do.
                                And one or two occasional bursts upto 70kmph [or around 6.5-7k RPM in fifth gear] will actually do you more good.

                                And yes, maintaining 4k RPM is just a thumb rule, the underlying point is NOT to STRESS the infant engine and to allow and let the proper MATING of piston,cylinder and other moving parts. Its therefore advisable to do a LOT of gear variations in the RUN-IN period. It will decrease the mileage. But once proper RUN-IN is completed [It will take around 5000 kms for the engine to be properly set] you will start reaping the benefits
                                Understood, will not make back to back posts. Im sorry about that, but tapatalk didn't let me edit my first one fully so made second post. Will not do it again. And thanks a ton for the break in information! Really needed that input. But I had no idea it took as long as 5k kms for the engine to set fully.

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                                Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                                Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                                Break-in tension? Read this.

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