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**susheelkumar** · 04-04-2013, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by huntphani View Post

2 weeks back I went to Yelagiri, while on the way back home before reaching Bangalore I rode for 70 kms continuously at 80-95 kmph.

I have gone non-stop from salem to krishnagiri in constant 100-100+ speed.
When I reached krishnagiri for a pit stop, I made the engine to run for some 4-5 minutes idling rather than turning it off immediately...
Otherwise the engine will get over-heated & it will become rough again....
Well one of my friend is going for yercaud probably this month...Just wanted to know how good it was & is it worth to go @ this point of hot climatic conditions..

**shahbaz63** · 04-04-2013, 12:05 PM

Well 200 km in around 2 hours 15 minutes no issues to me yet... (without stopping) ....

Then I have done 80+ for an hour & two quite a lot time Bike runs great ...

**shahbaz63** · 04-04-2013, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by Albert Paul View Post

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I own a Apache 180 ABS Can I use 55W xenon bulb instead of stock without a bit affecting on my battery ?

Yes you Can.

**susheelkumar** · 04-04-2013, 07:10 PM

Hi All....How to identify whether your stock tire rims are TT type / TL type?
I mean I'm using RTR-160 hyperedge version which comes with TT(Tube-type) tires.
So, is it really safe to go for TL(Tube-less) type tires when your stock rims wont support it.
How can we identify what kind of rim-type our stocks are? Where will I get those informations?

**pcgamer** · 04-04-2013, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by susheelkumar View Post

Hi All....How to identify whether your stock tire rims are TT type / TL type?
I mean I'm using RTR-160 hyperedge version which comes with TT(Tube-type) tires.
So, is it really safe to go for TL(Tube-less) type tires when your stock rims wont support it.
How can we identify what kind of rim-type our stocks are? Where will I get those informations?

I don't know how to identify the rim type. But it's perfectly fine to use tubeless tyres on RTR160 with stock rims. I know a few people who have done more than 20000km on the stock rim with tubeless tyres. Even most of the veterans in the RTR160 thread used to run tubeless on the stock rims. So, I'd say, go ahead...

**Adarsh_Bk** · 04-05-2013, 10:33 AM

I wanted to change my chain/sprocket set for sometime now, but havent been able to find TVS genuine spare anywhere, came across a Rolon store and they had one, but it is more than 300 bucks cheaper than TVS one (IIRC TVS chain is also made by Rolon). So what is the catch here? Why the price difference? Can I buy the Rolon set or should I wait for TVS?

**susheelkumar** · 04-05-2013, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by pcgamer View Post

I don't know how to identify the rim type. But it's perfectly fine to use tubeless tyres on RTR160 with stock rims. I know a few people who have done more than 20000km on the stock rim with tubeless tyres. Even most of the veterans in the RTR160 thread used to run tubeless on the stock rims. So, I'd say, go ahead...

I got this info from another-website written by a member named shivank who I belive is still active member of xbhp-RTR 180 thread.

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http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorbikes/123479-bikers-beware-tube-type-tubeless-tire-conundrum.html

This has made me more cautious whether I really need to go for tubeless as the stocks are tube-type tires.
So I have a feeling whether the RTR-160 rims can handle the same or not.

Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post

I wanted to change my chain/sprocket set for sometime now, but havent been able to find TVS genuine spare anywhere, came across a Rolon store and they had one, but it is more than 300 bucks cheaper than TVS one (IIRC TVS chain is also made by Rolon). So what is the catch here? Why the price difference? Can I buy the Rolon set or should I wait for TVS?

I remember you writing once how you felt after going for a local carb-diaphragm instead of TVS genuine one.
So I would suggest better dont. Atleast you can claim if something goes wrong here.

**pcgamer** · 04-05-2013, 12:20 PM

I see that he had used a tube type tyre in a tubeless rim. Tube type tyres have weaker sidewalls. So, they can't hold air properly and open up. On the other hand, tubeless ones have stronger side walls and fitting them on tubetype rims shouldn't be a problem. If you don't have budget constraints, you can buy 17" rims for peace of mind. You'll have better choice of tyres too. I really curse tvs for providing the primitive TT on the flagship brand. They started TL on 160 only in mid 2012. They could have easily done that back in 2010 with the hyperedges.

**Adarsh_Bk** · 04-05-2013, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by susheelkumar View Post

I remember you writing once how you felt after going for a local carb-diaphragm instead of TVS genuine one.
So I would suggest better dont. Atleast you can claim if something goes wrong here.

Hehe, even I remember that like it was yesterday

But anyways things are different in this case. TVS spare is also manufactured by Rolon but branded as Genuine spare. I have read before some seniors buying the Rolon chains only. So wanted to confirm once.

**pcgamer** · 04-05-2013, 12:58 PM

@susheel On a second thought, going for tubeless rims might be a better idea. Changing both the rims should cost 6.5 to 7k. That's pretty expensive but not so much when you consider the impact an opening tyre may have at 3 digit speeds. But we would have got an rtr180 for just 5k more at the time of purchase and that would have come with tubeless

**Adarsh_Bk** · 04-05-2013, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by pcgamer View Post

@susheel On a second thought, going for tubeless rims might be a better idea. Changing both the rims should cost 6.5 to 7k. That's pretty expensive but not so much when you consider the impact an opening tyre may have at 3 digit speeds. But we would have got an rtr180 for just 5k more at the time of purchase and that would have come with tubeless

That is one option

But i would say stick to tube type tyre, why change and lose peace of mind?? In case fixing a puncture is your concern then use a tyre sealant along with the tubes. The sealant is sprayed to the valve of the tube and then inflated. Whenever there is a puncture, the sealant immediately seals the hole thus fixing the puncture automatically

(You should be able to find this in JC road)

**susheelkumar** · 04-05-2013, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post

Hehe, even I remember that like it was yesterday

But anyways things are different in this case. TVS spare is also manufactured by Rolon but branded as Genuine spare. I have read before some seniors buying the Rolon chains only. So wanted to confirm once.

What the price of this complete chain sprocket set which you found right now???

Originally posted by pcgamer View Post

@susheel On a second thought, going for tubeless rims might be a better idea. Changing both the rims should cost 6.5 to 7k. That's pretty expensive but not so much when you consider the impact an opening tyre may have at 3 digit speeds. But we would have got an rtr180 for just 5k more at the time of purchase and that would have come with tubeless

Yeah that's what..at that time 180 was not the priority for me..ofccourse i luved the white one..
but budget was a problem..yeah even though 5k difference, that money also doesnt come easily... I had gone dual disk Hyperedge & bought it just as it was launched for which I shelled out 75k...

Anyway I'm not going to splash money to change the rims just for the sake of getting more options for tires & going for tubeless.
I feel tube-type will serve my need for now...

Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post

That is one option

But i would say stick to tube type tyre, why change and lose peace of mind?? In case fixing a puncture is your concern then use a tyre sealant along with the tubes. The sealant is sprayed to the valve of the tube and then inflated. Whenever there is a puncture, the sealant immediately seals the hole thus fixing the puncture automatically

(You should be able to find this in JC road)

This looks interesting...just spray the tube with that sealant through the valve & then inflate & use it..looks like a magic...Does it really work??
whats the cost??

**Adarsh_Bk** · 04-05-2013, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by susheelkumar View Post

What the price of this complete chain sprocket set which you found right now???

It was 970 as opposed to 1200+ for TVS wala.

Originally posted by susheelkumar View Post

This looks interesting...just spray the tube with that sealant through the valve & then inflate & use it..looks like a magic...Does it really work??
whats the cost??

Yup magic

It has been around for quite sometime now, so I am assuming it works as advertised. You will have to spray the entire can for one tube (2 can for 2 tyres) and spray costs 100-200 (not sure but I remember some number like this

). This is not just limited to tube, it can also be used for tubeless tyres. I dont have a first hand experience with it, nor do I personally know anyone who used it but have been reading about it everywhere. (you can search for threads in xbhp for tyre sealants)

**huntphani** · 04-06-2013, 04:33 AM

Originally posted by pcgamer View Post

@susheel On a second thought, going for tubeless rims might be a better idea. Changing both the rims should cost 6.5 to 7k. That's pretty expensive but not so much when you consider the impact an opening tyre may have at 3 digit speeds. But we would have got an rtr180 for just 5k more at the time of purchase and that would have come with tubeless

The man is right.
While on the way back from Yelagiri a black CBz overtook us, after few kilometers this bike had crashed, the rider and pillion were lying on the road. Got to know that their bike got punctured and tahts how they fell. Just before that in Yelagiri i was arguing with my friend about having tubless, he was saying its useless and puncture costs 120 instead of 40bucks which is useless. He realised after watching those guys back skin ripped off.

**albyjose** · 04-06-2013, 11:07 AM

Riding apache 180 ac for 3 months basically with no light(Hid+projector set,very less output,don't know whats wrong).So need to clear some doubts.Will post pics of light output tonight.
Question:
One mech told me that he will do the dc conversion by swapping rr with ape rr,but no coil rewinding.Thinking about getting rewinding done from auto electrical people.
I am a total noob here,am I missing something?Which one to do first?
Is it a good idea to get a used coil and get it rewinded,so that I won't mess up everything?

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