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  • #4936
    Originally posted by raghav-zmr View Post
    i don't understand how come the crf is better tuned and mapped and has an extra gear too but has a lesser top speed than zma
    or is the acceleration better ?
    The answer to you're query lies in its sprocketing, with a 50T rear, it'd be a miracle if our ZMA/ZMR would achieve atleast a 3 digit figure.
    Motorcycling Experience:
    2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
    2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
    2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
    2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
    2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
    2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

    The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
    Adios Comrades!
    A.P. 2018

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    • #4937
      Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
      Where is Dhiraj bro? He had fitted 9Ah battery in his ZMR.

      Yeah yesterday myself and Mohsin bro went and fitted 9Ah Exide battery to my ZMR, yes we need to do some of the modifications to get in 9Ah battery.

      Battery :- Rs. 1600
      Modification, Velding and Fitting Charges:- Rs. 300

      I dnt have a photo of it, will click it and upload it soon may be by tomorrow
      Replace the words "I have to" with "I choose to" and notice the difference in how you feel.

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      • #4938
        Originally posted by dhiraj View Post
        Yeah yesterday myself and Mohsin bro went and fitted 9Ah Exide battery to my ZMR, yes we need to do some of the modifications to get in 9Ah battery.

        Battery :- Rs. 1600
        Modification, Velding and Fitting Charges:- Rs. 300

        I dnt have a photo of it, will click it and upload it soon may be by tomorrow
        is battery maintenance free ?
        and can you please upload battery compartment pic ?


        and someone please suggest me some good tubeless tyre
        Just Me And Her [ZMR]

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        • #4939
          Originally posted by psr View Post
          If you study ,you will understand that the following things are different between CRF230 and HH ZMA.
          1. The weight.. CRF 112 Kgs...ZMA 150 Kgs
          2. The gear box.. CRF 6 gears ZMA 5 gears
          3. Carburetor CRF 26/28mm non CV... ZMA 30mm CV
          4. Chain & sprocket CRF 520 pitch 13/50....ZMA 520 pitch...13/40
          5. CDI CRF Aggressive map...ZMA CDI passive to get better FE
          6. Top Speed CRF 100 Kmph ZMA 125 Kmph

          Yeah, I was aware of the technical difference of the two engines, but how come the CRF230 is so smooth? Well it must be the parts used in manufacturing the CRF engine (in Japan probably), and does our ZMA/ZMR engine manufactured in India, with the materials from India?

          I could found some instances where the rocker arms, cam shafts are worn out in new engines, what happened in my ZMR engine too which has only runned for 10k kms.. Dissapointed!

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          • #4940
            Whats the price of stock battery ? What was the need of 9aH ?

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            • #4941
              Originally posted by Dan_GP View Post
              Yeah, I was aware of the technical difference of the two engines, but how come the CRF230 is so smooth? Well it must be the parts used in manufacturing the CRF engine (in Japan probably), and does our ZMA/ZMR engine manufactured in India, with the materials from India?

              I could found some instances where the rocker arms, cam shafts are worn out in new engines, what happened in my ZMR engine too which has only runned for 10k kms.. Dissapointed!
              Yes Unfortunately HH tried to develop certain local parts for ZMA/ZMR, and it was in the upper cylinder assembly..like you pointed out cam,rocker etc..In the late 2010 and 2011 manufactured bikes ,there are problems reported with these components..the engine is still imported along with the carburetor and starter motor..The Alloy Wheel is also from a reputed manufacturer.The Timing Chain and the tension adjusters have also been changed to Indian make.
              Last edited by psr; 12-15-2011, 07:47 PM.
              When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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              • #4942
                Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
                Whats the price of stock battery ? What was the need of 9aH ?
                Stock Battery cost Approx 1900 at SVC and in market for Rs. 1500

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                • #4943
                  Originally posted by psr View Post
                  Yes Unfortunately HH tried to develop certain local parts for ZMA/ZMR, and it was in the upper cylinder assembly..like you pointed out cam,rocker etc..In the late 2010 and 2011 manufactured bikes ,there are problems reported with these components..the engine is still imported along with the carburetor and starter motor..The Alloy Wheel is also from a reputed manufacturer.The Timing Chain and the tension adjusters have also been changed to Indian make.
                  Very true ! My ZMR is making lots of Timing chain noise ! I haven't completed 12k kms yet ! HH are doing things in moronic way !

                  Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                  Stock Battery cost Approx 1900 at SVC and in market for Rs. 1500
                  Thanks bro !!

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                  • #4944
                    Originally posted by psr View Post
                    Yes Unfortunately HH tried to develop certain local parts for ZMA/ZMR, and it was in the upper cylinder assembly..like you pointed out cam,rocker etc..In the late 2010 and 2011 manufactured bikes ,there are problems reported with these components..the engine is still imported along with the carburetor and starter motor..The Alloy Wheel is also from a reputed manufacturer.The Timing Chain and the tension adjusters have also been changed to Indian make.
                    Yes those mentioned parts are exactly the culprits for the noise and heat problems. I wish that hero ppl import the whole engine Thanks PSR ji, you cleared my doubts..

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                    • #4945
                      When the engine is hot I could hear a lot of noises coming from the engine obviously, and they are pretty audible and there is one noise that is troubling me a lot lately..

                      When it is hot, at idle, 1.2k RPM, not so much noise, but just as I touch the accelerator and slightly rev it, say to 1.4k RPM, I can hear a tak tak tak noise is starting to come out from the engine, it gets much louder, and the noise increases with the RPM and at some point the noise cannot be heard due to fairing noise..

                      So what could be causing this noise, but as per my experience it is definitely not the tappet noise coz it is different.. More like a Tak Tak Tak noise..

                      And the left side of the crank case does heat up much faster and the heat is much higher than the right side cranck case(side where the break pedal is)..
                      Last edited by Dan_GP; 12-16-2011, 10:07 AM.

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                      • #4946
                        Originally posted by psr View Post
                        Yes Unfortunately HH tried to develop certain local parts for ZMA/ZMR, and it was in the upper cylinder assembly..like you pointed out cam,rocker etc..In the late 2010 and 2011 manufactured bikes ,there are problems reported with these components..the engine is still imported along with the carburetor and starter motor..The Alloy Wheel is also from a reputed manufacturer.The Timing Chain and the tension adjusters have also been changed to Indian make.

                        Then it means that earlier ZMA/ZMR prior to 2010 are completely imported engine and components...

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                        • #4947
                          Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                          Then it means that earlier ZMA/ZMR prior to 2010 are completely imported engine and components...
                          Yes...I have a 2007 ZMA-R which has clocked 24 K(bought pre owned at 21 K) now and all components except the brake pads,battery,and Air filter are stock,and unchanged.
                          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                          • #4948
                            Originally posted by Dan_GP View Post
                            When the engine is hot I could hear a lot of noises coming from the engine obviously, and they are pretty audible and there is one noise that is troubling me a lot lately..

                            When it is hot, at idle, 1.2k RPM, not so much noise, but just as I touch the accelerator and slightly rev it, say to 1.4k RPM, I can hear a tak tak tak noise is starting to come out from the engine, it gets much louder, and the noise increases with the RPM and at some point the noise cannot be heard due to fairing noise..

                            So what could be causing this noise, but as per my experience it is definitely not the tappet noise coz it is different.. More like a Tak Tak Tak noise..

                            And the left side of the crank case does heat up much faster and the heat is much higher than the right side cranck case(side where the break pedal is)..
                            I have been hearing the same noise as well.... it's been a while since i have been hearing the same noise however the SVC guys said "sir itni aawaz to rahegi bike ki"... i mean what???

                            This one service center in Gurgaon, the master mechanic said the noise is completely normal... though it was clearly audible that the noise was from Tappets and when serviced at a Delhi service center, the noise vanished... though the tak tak tak noise comes back in 2 or 3 weeks after service.

                            My ZMR has done 11,500 KM and this noise issue is there since 7k or 8k....
                            PEACE!!!!\/

                            RESPECT!!!!

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                            • #4949
                              Originally posted by psr View Post
                              Yes...I have a 2007 ZMA-R which has clocked 24 K(bought pre owned at 21 K) now and all components except the brake pads,battery,and Air filter are stock,and unchanged.
                              Sir, I believe not only upper cylinder, but even the crank shaft is made in India.
                              Cause while searching for the 'T' mark through the timing hole cap, we saw, "Denzo India LTD."
                              Motorcycling Experience:
                              2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                              2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                              2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                              2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                              2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                              2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                              The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                              Adios Comrades!
                              A.P. 2018

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                              • #4950
                                Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                                Sir, I believe not only upper cylinder, but even the crank shaft is made in India.
                                Cause while searching for the 'T' mark through the timing hole cap, we saw, "Denzo India LTD."
                                Oh NO, More dissapointment, looking at the behaviour of these new ZMRs I think we cannot respect them as "Bullet-proof reliable engines" anymore like they were very well known for. C'mon Hero ppl!


                                Originally posted by hondarider View Post
                                I have been hearing the same noise as well.... it's been a while since i have been hearing the same noise however the SVC guys said "sir itni aawaz to rahegi bike ki"... i mean what???

                                This one service center in Gurgaon, the master mechanic said the noise is completely normal... though it was clearly audible that the noise was from Tappets and when serviced at a Delhi service center, the noise vanished... though the tak tak tak noise comes back in 2 or 3 weeks after service.

                                My ZMR has done 11,500 KM and this noise issue is there since 7k or 8k....
                                Yeah, exactly, service ppl refuse that there is a noise and refuse to even check. I think that they know there is a problem but they refuse it coz if they had to change some parts under warranty, so it is a good initiative to reduce the cost, by may be, Hero ppl..

                                Anyways, does anyone know what sound that is. My bike also have runned only for 10k kms, and it is very irritating to ride the bike with that noise comming through the gap within the handle and the fuel tank. And does anyone know why the left hand crank case(one on the same side as the gear lever) heating up more than that is on the left??
                                Last edited by Dan_GP; 12-17-2011, 10:13 AM.

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