Thanks for trying out man... Appreciate it...!!!

I got my bike checked from a different SVC in Delhi.. they said they will give me the claim for the damaged part... And they checked the entire front body (opening and packing cost 200rs) and suggested to go for claim as the locks for the headlight and right fairing have broken....

So I'll get the claim work done and will get the entire front end changed... means left side too!! will pay for that as it'll be a complete new front end and no issues of yellowish parts...

Meanwhile the Gurgaon SVC guys have not called me back and I haven't received any update from them regarding the matter even till now... So I definitely will not go for Gurgaon SVC now...

Also, I was looking for Shell Advance 10W40, but couldn't find it (couldn't check multiple dealers due to lack of time).. so used Petronas 10W40 engine oil... is it fine???

Hi Guys,
i am myself planning to buy ZMR but have heard at places and several forums that it really sucks when it comes to average/mileage. So i wish to know what i the practical mileage when that ZMR gives
1. In City
2. On Highways
3. Collaborating the both a final mixed approx mileage which you guys have seen for yourself.

As this is a dedicated ZMR thread, ihope my queries will finally be put to rest with the amount of awesome experiences you all people have.

Looking forward to hear all your views

Thanks in advance fellas!

Both ZMA and ZMR have RELIABLE engines and problems are mostly with connections or cables...
The Average Knowledge Level Had gone up significantly, and Most members have started Helping out each other with their Knowledge.....even recently few days back one of the member faced an intermittent starter problem which the ASC had no clue about...but he was able to correct it by changing the Fuse on the starter relay....
Happy to be amongst knowledgeable members with NO EGO..

Why not use CASTROL? huh!

Why not use CASTROL? huh!

Castrol does not seems to be gud...some members has posted the experience earlier..

Castrol oils have been largely duplicated, and in to-day's condition you are more likely to buy a duplicate than a original one...so members generally keep off Castrol....

So Finally I am here, writing my very own First Impression report on Xbhp. Well, I previously owned the Pulsar 220 F and it faithfully served me 2.3 years with a few few hiccups. No complains today

Well,Xbhp has been a forum where I have learned to learn & not Envy, and I have learnt that well. After endless jumbling through post, threads, experiences, first-impression report, I own the mighty steed, the Karizma ZMR. This all thanks to JESUS & parents

Truth be told, I got bored of my Pulsar 220. The usual niggles, drop in performance, & the missing of the thrill leaded me to take the decision of buying a new bike. I was a wee-bit confused about which steed can satisfy my hunger. So I ventured out on a bike hunting spree. Nothing but performance would be considered, so I selected the KTM Duke 200, ZMR, & Pulsar 200NS. I was weary of the Pulsar because of the reliability issue (A pulsar owner, so do not pelt me with stones), KTM is an awesome machine, but my dad is an occasional rider, could not just think about myself , & finally the ZMR *sigh* *drool*

Boy-Oh-Boy, the ZMR made me fall in Love with her, the white screamed Purity, but at the same time grinned passion. So I was set, no worries about the downgrade of 4 bhp & upgrade of 9 kgs. I wanted a machine that was comfortable, reliable, worry-free and made me feel relaxed.

After being in the market for close to 3 years, the ZMR does not fail to be the eye-catcher, well it surely catches mine. The bike is a beauty, the paint-job, accessories, fit-and-finish, the crispness of the power delivery. I can rattle all night long. Nothing can Hero Motocorp do, to better it and create another league of par excellence.

The entire blue console looks gorgeous, the construction of parts are excellent. Seats are comfy, throttle is smooth, road-presence is mind-blowing, engine smoothness cannot be described in words and braking is crisp at the moment.

The Karizma ZMR is surely one-of-the-best motorcycles money can buy. If you are considering it, go for it. Performance wise, it is nothing compared to the Duke or P220, but this is a machine that promises to put a smile on your face, every time the starter button is pushed.

I would once again thank JESUS & my parents. Xbhp a big thanks to you for making me realize the passion if have for bikes.

Okay, I don't want to prolong the discussion, which is OT here. If you are not with open mind, its difficult to accept good things about other bikes. Rest my case here.

Finally I meet someone who has had experience with 2 high end bikes and that too from the companies having neck to neck competetion.

How was your overall experience with P220 and when the comparison to ZMR comes who has the edge. And yes I ain't simply referring to power; What I wish to know is that Overall (Handling, Comfort, Engine Behaviour, Durability, Maintenance, After Sales Service, Performance, Mileage and a few more parameteres you can add up) if we are comparing which one is a nice deal to struck!

Since coming across people either owing P220 OR a ZMR never both (as far a I have seen) its always tuff to get a decent and honest comparison leaving the buyer in total dismay. Hoping that everything will finally surface up crystal clear.
Eagerly Awaiting!

Guys, i already booked my new zmr and will get it tomorrow!!! i am all excited. i was owner of pulsar in the past and i will never ever buy that brand again.

Dont post multiple posts, just make all your queries into one post only.. Its looking like spam with so many posts from you only.

And dont start any comparos here also, If you own a ZMR try to ask questions about its problems and solutions only, this thread is meant for that... And if you dont own it and looking to buy it go for the What Bike Thread!

PS: I did not read your posts they are very confusing with so many posts!!

Shell then?




Finally I meet someone who has had experience with 2 high end bikes and that too from the companies having neck to neck competetion.

How was your overall experience with P220 and when the comparison to ZMR comes who has the edge. And yes I ain't simply referring to power; What I wish to know is that Overall (Handling, Comfort, Engine Behaviour, Durability, Maintenance, After Sales Service, Performance, Mileage and a few more parameteres you can add up) if we are comparing which one is a nice deal to struck!

Since coming across people either owing P220 OR a ZMR never both (as far a I have seen) its always tuff to get a decent and honest comparison leaving the buyer in total dismay. Hoping that everything will finally surface up crystal clear.
Eagerly Awaiting!

Hi Guys,

For a place like Mumbai or maybe Delhi which ain't thay cold like hill stations, is 10W oil or 20W oil is recommended? To me 20W shall be better as it's viscosity will be higher at the surrounding temperatures and thereby not hampering the Engine and it's performance.

Also someone on this forum praising Shell AX-7 oil which seems very good to me but then again the lower viscosity level is 10W for the same!

Any view/comments/suggestions? Everything's most welcome



Just PM-ed you. Plz reply.





Need comparison as asked in my question above, Sanjay??

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Friends,
Sorry for being late to post my Summary of TWO Years Happy Ownership.

Date of Purchase: 16-May-2010
Kilometres Done: 25202 Kms
Fuel Expenses: Rs 43,487.08
Refuelled Litres: 677.20 Litres (73 times; HPCL-63, IOCL-08, BPCL-02)
Average KMPL: (25202+500)/677 = 38

Bike Serviced: 17 times (including 6 Free)
Accident Expenses: Rs 8,700.00
Service Expenses: Rs 28,400.00 includes the following
Parts Changed:

• Rear Shockers @ 24712 Kms for Rs 3,660.00
• Front Disc Pads (4 Times) for Rs 5,600.00
• Chain & Sprocket, Clutch, Ball Racer, Cables @ 19516 Kms for Rs 4,000.00
• Air Filter (3 Times) for Rs 500.00
• Engine Oils Used (HH 10W30 Mineral for 10950 Kms, MOTUL 15W50 SemiSynthetic for 8565 Kms, HONDA 10W30 Synthetic for 3794 Kms)
  Mobil1 10W40 Synthetic for 2040 Kms and on now...

Additional Expenses:
Tire, Headlamp & Spark plugs @ 9654 Kms for Rs 5000.00

Major Problems Faced:

1. Air leakage from Rims from initial Days, using Tubes in both Front & Rear
2. Blown up Fuse (DOZEN in Seven days at 24700 Kms) Resolved (due to Headlamp)

Roads & Drive Terrain

Two Long Trips & Vacation with Wife of 600 Kms to and fro.
Regular 40 Kms of Office to and fro in peak hour traffic in the not so City of Joy


Sorry GUYS for my boring Figures. Questions are welcome!!!



Finally please do not ask the TOTAL OWNERSHIP COST of owning the Bike in these TWO Years.
Figures say Rs 2,15,809.61 as per my Excel-Sheet. Yes you read it right!!!

Obviously includes Riding Jackets, Gloves, Helmets, Remote Lock, Bike Polishes, Tire Punctures, Pollution Certificates........

Regrets: Yes some day I will have to part ways to bring some other Machine which the Market does not have now.

Friends,
Sorry for being late to post my Summary of TWO Years Happy Ownership.

Date of Purchase: 16-May-2010
Kilometres Done: 25202 Kms
Fuel Expenses: Rs 43,487.08
Refuelled Litres: 677.20 Litres (73 times; HPCL-63, IOCL-08, BPCL-02)
Average KMPL: (25202+500)/677 = 38

Bike Serviced: 17 times (including 6 Free)
Accident Expenses: Rs 8,700.00
Service Expenses: Rs 28,400.00 includes the following
Parts Changed:

• Rear Shockers @ 24712 Kms for Rs 3,660.00
• Front Disc Pads (4 Times) for Rs 5,600.00
• Chain & Sprocket, Clutch, Ball Racer, Cables @ 19516 Kms for Rs 4,000.00
• Air Filter (3 Times) for Rs 500.00
• Engine Oils Used (HH 10W30 Mineral for 10950 Kms, MOTUL 15W50 SemiSynthetic for 8565 Kms, HONDA 10W30 Synthetic for 3794 Kms)
  Mobil1 10W40 Synthetic for 2040 Kms and on now...

Finally please do not ask the TOTAL OWNERSHIP COST of owning the Bike in these TWO Years.
Figures say Rs 2,15,809.61 as per my Excel-Sheet. Yes you read it right!!!

Obviously includes Riding Jackets, Gloves, Helmets, Remote Lock, Bike Polishes, Tire Punctures, Pollution Certificates........

Regrets: Yes some day I will have to part ways to bring some other Machine which the Market does not have now.

Hi Guys,
i am myself planning to buy ZMR but have heard at places and several forums that it really sucks when it comes to average/mileage. So i wish to know what i the practical mileage when that ZMR gives

Why not use CASTROL? huh!

Shell then?
Also someone on this forum praising Shell AX-7 oil which seems very good to me but then again the lower viscosity level is 10W for the same!
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dont you thing bro that some of your parts have been changed sooner than average such as disc pads 4 times, clutch and ball racer.
mine bike has done 24800 approx kms and still i have replaced front and rear brake pads, air filter, spark plug, clutch wire once.
god i love my snow white

Meticulous maintenance records....why did the Disc Brake Pads wear so much ? 4 times change in 25 K Kms seem a bit on the higher side...guess Kolkatta traffic is taking a toll on your pads.while the cost of ownership on paper seem a bit high think of the time you saved in your travel and the multitasking made possible with more available time...and the bike is still with you taking you in comfort and in TIME to places...PRICELESS.

Ambar & Raghavan Sir,

Very true that some have been changed quite early.
For Disc Pads I have checked that it lasts 5000-6000 kms on average.
Since the front is heavy and in City traffic movement requires more application.
Besides mostly since my Wife is pillion the Bike needs more stopping prowess thru Front Brakes.
Yes of late have changed my Riding pattern and getting more of the Brake Pads.
Forgot to mention the Rear have been changed only ONCE.

Similar with the Air Filter also. Stays around 6000-7000 kms.
Mileage drops with the clogged Air Filter. Does not help much with cleaning.

Probably it is high time people need a VIDEO Shoot of my Office Travel.
This is the reason I am postponing my DRIVING LESSON to indefinite schedule.

OT: Common friend and a noted seasoned Biker once came from my Locality towards the Office Area with his Bike, that also in off peak hours.
His reaction was either I should change my Residence or Office.
He said now onwards he is having more respect for my Riding Skills.

Disk pads burning out depends on usage. My ZMR had some 9500 kms on it when i sold off but never changed disc pads and they were good when i gave it off. My karizma had 25000 kms on it and never ever changed the front disc pads and they were in nice shape.

Though i have seen that zmr disc pads seems to wear off faster compared to karizma and the front heavy, forward biased weight distribution as rightly pointed by satyajit could be a probable reason or just quality related issues

the light foot approach on the rear disc pads to prevent locking and ability to front brake more effectively ( but properly and not falling or locking) can at least save the rear ones slightly more.

the karizma's front brake pad costs 2400 here whereas ZMR's costs 1200. mine last one lasted for 14-15k kms.