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  • Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
    I am using Philips Xtreme vision...seems to have a black spot...so not suggest to have a xtreme vision...however light is good...
    I have been using Osram NB for 6 months now. Pretty good lighting I must say.
    Reflectors are different on both ZMA and R. Hence the difference.

    There are no black spots IMO.
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    • Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
      I am using Philips Xtreme vision...seems to have a black spot...so not suggest to have a xtreme vision...however light is good...
      Where is the black spot, near or far or in the middle?

      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
      I have been using Osram NB for 6 months now. Pretty good lighting I must say.
      Reflectors are different on both ZMA and R. Hence the difference.

      There are no black spots IMO.
      The NB on Rakesh ZMR has wider beam spread on high beam. A high beam should have a pointed beam that carries to longer distance. NB on my ZMA produces pointed high beam, but the spread is only a little wider. Are you sure your high beam is pointed?
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      • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
        Where is the black spot, near or far or in the middle?



        The NB on Rakesh ZMR has wider beam spread on high beam. A high beam should have a pointed beam that carries to longer distance. NB on my ZMA produces pointed high beam, but the spread is only a little wider. Are you sure your high beam is pointed?
        I found black spots in middle and far light....

        In ZMR beam spread due to wider headlight .....
        Last edited by veryhiphop; 02-11-2013, 03:41 PM.

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        • Hi All,

          Will be parting my White Angel after 34400 Kms in 1002 Days till now.
          Officially the Name Transfer has been initiated today.

          Yes I am very saddened but has been done since I am moving to Chennai.
          Hence I would be little disconnected from this Thread.
          Please PM me Bikers if you have any query.
          34567 kms and ZMR sold :(

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          • Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
            for 120 need to remove chain guard..or cut the chain cover this way...

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            Some needs to be done for the rear disk supporting/holding rod on righ hand side?? As I see very less space between the stock tyre and rod.. So I doubt whether 120 will fit in tht gap???

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            • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
              The NB on Rakesh ZMR has wider beam spread on high beam. A high beam should have a pointed beam that carries to longer distance. NB on my ZMA produces pointed high beam, but the spread is only a little wider. Are you sure your high beam is pointed?
              It's not exactly pointed per se, but not parallel either. ZMR has a wider oval reflector than ZMA's squarish ones, hence it spreads more and looks less pointed.

              Originally posted by satyajitrc View Post
              Hi All,

              Will be parting my White Angel after 34400 Kms in 1002 Days till now.
              Officially the Name Transfer has been initiated today.

              Yes I am very saddened but has been done since I am moving to Chennai.
              Hence I would be little disconnected from this Thread.
              Please PM me Bikers if you have any query.
              Everything happens for a reason. Get yourself a CBR for office rides and a Ninja 650 for weekend rides. Coming down to Chennai in March. See you soon
              Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
              Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

              Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
              Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
              ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
              P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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              • Originally posted by antan_shank View Post
                Some needs to be done for the rear disk supporting/holding rod on righ hand side?? As I see very less space between the stock tyre and rod.. So I doubt whether 120 will fit in tht gap???
                Flatten the rod. Aneesh bro has done it on his ride, since he was using M45.
                Motorcycling Experience:
                2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

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                • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                  Flatten the rod. Aneesh bro has done it on his ride, since he was using M45.
                  Thanks bro at last got the answer that I was looking for.. no one was able to understand my point... Anyways can you suggest me the way to flatten it??? Anwwsh can please guide me, as I don't want to spoil anything in an heist and stilll want 120 PSD...

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                  • Originally posted by antan_shank View Post
                    Thanks bro at last got the answer that I was looking for.. no one was able to understand my point... Anyways can you suggest me the way to flatten it??? Anwwsh can please guide me, as I don't want to spoil anything in an heist and stilll want 120 PSD...
                    And I thought u wanted PSD 110 - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...a-zmr-670.html
                    Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                    Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                    Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                    Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                    ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                    P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                    • Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                      I found black spots in middle and far light....

                      In ZMR beam spread due to wider headlight .....
                      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                      It's not exactly pointed per se, but not parallel either. ZMR has a wider oval reflector than ZMA's squarish ones, hence it spreads more and looks less pointed.
                      It doesn't matter how wide is the headlight. Any reflector is designed to focus the maximum intensity of the light focus to the needed area. Low beam causes spread of light in shorter distance. A high beam should be pointed so that it should travel maximum distance. On high beam, there will be spread of the light to the sides but thats very little amount. Most of the light intensity is pointed so that the rider can see long distance. If you observe the beam pattern with stock headlight, you can observe clearly that high beam is more pointed, though the intensity is low due to 35w filament. The reflectors in any Indian bike (barring 2-3 bikes) are designed keeping in mind the 35W bulb. In general the length of the 35W bulb and a 55w bulb are different in sizes. This causes improper focusing and spread of light.

                      Sometimes the position of the filaments in the bulb also differs in each brand. All the 55/60w bulbs are designed for car reflectors. Though we get good intensity of light by using these bulbs, sometimes the spread of beam will be uneven if used in reflectors designed for 35w bulb.

                      The Osram nightbreaker bulb thats in my ZMA is more than 5 years old. The low beam spread is good and the high beam is not very perfect, but its okay. It points straight for long distance, but also spreads to sides a bit more than required. The same Osram NB in Rakesh's ZMR, instead of pointing the light to long distance, it spreads the light, almost like an extended low beam. This is not because the ZMR's headlight is wider; its because of the Osram NB bulb design. There might be difference in design of the NB bulbs that is 5 years old and the recent one.

                      I have used 55/60W Osram Silverstar in my Dazzler. The stock bulb produced one pointed beam with nice spread, though low in intensity. With Osram Silverstar, though the low beam is good, the high beam is not pointed. The light is more scattered and not pointed and doesn't travel long distance. Problem here was the incompatibility of the bulb and the reflector.

                      I going to use Philips Extreme Vision 55/60w bulb and see how good is with ZMA's reflector.



                      Originally posted by antan_shank View Post
                      Thanks bro at last got the answer that I was looking for.. no one was able to understand my point... Anyways can you suggest me the way to flatten it??? Anwwsh can please guide me, as I don't want to spoil anything in an heist and stilll want 120 PSD...
                      PSD is 110 section. AFAIK, there is no 18 inch 120 PSD tyre available in India. Do not use bigger tires; it affects many things. If you just fit it without understanding them, it would cause more problems than being good. I suggest you to stick with 100 section tyre.

                      Originally posted by satyajitrc View Post
                      Hi All,

                      Will be parting my White Angel after 34400 Kms in 1002 Days till now.
                      Officially the Name Transfer has been initiated today.

                      Yes I am very saddened but has been done since I am moving to Chennai.
                      Hence I would be little disconnected from this Thread.
                      Please PM me Bikers if you have any query.
                      As Sharan said, everything is for good. Sometimes we have to let go things.
                      Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 02-11-2013, 11:30 PM.
                      HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
                      Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

                      Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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                      • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                        It doesn't matter how wide is the headlight. Any reflector is designed to focus the maximum intensity of the light focus to the needed area. Low beam causes spread of light in shorter distance. A high beam should be pointed so that it should travel maximum distance. On high beam, there will be spread of the light to the sides but thats very little amount. Most of the light intensity is pointed so that the rider can see long distance. If you observe the beam pattern with stock headlight, you can observe clearly that high beam is more pointed, though the intensity is low due to 35w filament. The reflectors in any Indian bike (barring 2-3 bikes) are designed keeping in mind the 35W bulb. In general the length of the 35W bulb and a 55w bulb are different in sizes. This causes improper focusing and spread of light.

                        Sometimes the position of the filaments in the bulb also differs in each brand. All the 55/60w bulbs are designed for car reflectors. Though we get good intensity of light by using these bulbs, sometimes the spread of beam will be uneven if used in reflectors designed for 35w bulb.

                        The Osram nightbreaker bulb thats in my ZMA is more than 5 years old. The low beam spread is good and the high beam is not very perfect, but its okay. It points straight for long distance, but also spreads to sides a bit more than required. The same Osram NB in Rakesh's ZMR, instead of pointing the light to long distance, it spreads the light, almost like an extended low beam. This is not because the ZMR's headlight is wider; its because of the Osram NB bulb design. There might be difference in design of the NB bulbs that is 5 years old and the recent one.

                        I have used 55/60W Osram Silverstar in my Dazzler. The stock bulb produced one pointed beam with nice spread, though low in intensity. With Osram Silverstar, though the low beam is good, the high beam is not pointed. The light is more scattered and not pointed and doesn't travel long distance. Problem here was the incompatibility of the bulb and the reflector.

                        I going to use Philips Extreme Vision 55/60w bulb and see how good is with ZMA's reflector.
                        Now this is something new I didn't know about. Thanks for the info bhai.



                        PSD is 110 section. AFAIK, there is no 18 inch 120 PSD tyre available in India. Do not use bigger tires; it affects many things. If you just fit it without understanding them, it would cause more problems than being good. I suggest you to stick with 100 section tyre.
                        PSD is available in 18" 120 mm sizes bro. Look at the link - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...a-zmr-670.html
                        Guys have put it on ZMR as well.
                        Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                        Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                        Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                        Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                        ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                        P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                        • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                          It doesn't matter how wide is the headlight. Any reflector is designed to focus the maximum intensity of the light focus to the needed area. Low beam causes spread of light in shorter distance. A high beam should be pointed so that it should travel maximum distance. On high beam, there will be spread of the light to the sides but thats very little amount. Most of the light intensity is pointed so that the rider can see long distance. If you observe the beam pattern with stock headlight, you can observe clearly that high beam is more pointed, though the intensity is low due to 35w filament. The reflectors in any Indian bike (barring 2-3 bikes) are designed keeping in mind the 35W bulb. In general the length of the 35W bulb and a 55w bulb are different in sizes. This causes improper focusing and spread of light.

                          Sometimes the position of the filaments in the bulb also differs in each brand. All the 55/60w bulbs are designed for car reflectors. Though we get good intensity of light by using these bulbs, sometimes the spread of beam will be uneven if used in reflectors designed for 35w bulb.

                          The Osram nightbreaker bulb thats in my ZMA is more than 5 years old. The low beam spread is good and the high beam is not very perfect, but its okay. It points straight for long distance, but also spreads to sides a bit more than required. The same Osram NB in Rakesh's ZMR, instead of pointing the light to long distance, it spreads the light, almost like an extended low beam. This is not because the ZMR's headlight is wider; its because of the Osram NB bulb design. There might be difference in design of the NB bulbs that is 5 years old and the recent one.

                          I have used 55/60W Osram Silverstar in my Dazzler. The stock bulb produced one pointed beam with nice spread, though low in intensity. With Osram Silverstar, though the low beam is good, the high beam is not pointed. The light is more scattered and not pointed and doesn't travel long distance. Problem here was the incompatibility of the bulb and the reflector.

                          I going to use Philips Extreme Vision 55/60w bulb and see how good is with ZMA's reflector.





                          PSD is 110 section. AFAIK, there is no 18 inch 120 PSD tyre available in India. Do not use bigger tires; it affects many things. If you just fit it without understanding them, it would cause more problems than being good. I suggest you to stick with 100 section tyre.



                          As Sharan said, everything is for good. Sometimes we have to let go things.
                          Nice info...but i still suggest not to buy xtreme...i had used in my car too and also faced the issue of black spot in car as well as in ZMR...

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                          • Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                            Nice info...but i still suggest not to buy xtreme...i had used in my car too and also faced the issue of black spot in car as well as in ZMR...
                            Okay. I will try exchanging if somebody else is using here in Hyderabad. I would like to use it in my ZMA and see how it does, just for personal clarification.
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                            Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

                            Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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                            • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                              Okay. I will try exchanging if somebody else is using here in Hyderabad. I would like to use it in my ZMA and see how it does, just for personal clarification.
                              Hey guys, I have just replaced my 35W bulb with a much underrated Dela 60/55W bulb & i must say that the light is good enough for riding.. I got it from a Hyundai SVC near my place for 82 bucks only.. Is an NB worth the spending ! Though i wont deny that an NB might just produce a bit more light than the Dela bulb, but i guess " a bit more only " ???

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                              • Originally posted by Bibhudatta View Post
                                Hey guys, I have just replaced my 35W bulb with a much underrated Dela 60/55W bulb & i must say that the light is good enough for riding.. I got it from a Hyundai SVC near my place for 82 bucks only.. Is an NB worth the spending ! Though i wont deny that an NB might just produce a bit more light than the Dela bulb, but i guess " a bit more only " ???
                                Prior to Osram NB, I had normal Philips 55w bulb - 75 bucks. ---> way better than stock.
                                After the bulb got damaged in the SVC, they replaced it with a Dela 55w bulb ---> free for me but 80 bucks outside ---> similar to Philips 55w.

                                Changed to Osram NB after reading +ve reviews. These Dela/Hella/Philips 55w (normal ones) simply bite dust in comparison.
                                Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                                Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                                Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                                Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                                ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                                P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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