Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Unfair comparisons. R15/Duke/CBR/ZMR are all different bikes. Ok, CBR and ZMR are sport tourers, but the rest are city bikes. (although people tour on them, this is India)
CBR and ZMR are comparable upto 70 kmph or so, post which CBR surges ahead.
Duke has a superb pull, and overtaking one in city traffic is impossible unless the rider is inexperienced.
R15 looks sharp and handles as good. V2 has better torque rating for city purpose though. But it has the most aggressive stance of the four, followed by CBR.

Where does ZMR/ZMA score?

1. Engine wise. Literally trouble free.
2. Can cruise at 95-100 all day long and still give mileage figures that puts 150 cc bikes to shame. (ZMR only)

BTW, I see a lot of Hero ZMRs in BLR (Hebbal area). Newer batch has better plastics. Spares are not as problematic as they were until a year ago. Yes, a few parts may take time for procurement, but regular spares like cables, clutch plates, sprocket kit, fuses, relays etc are available off the shelf!

Maintenance is NOT costly. Now you'd say Pulsars brake pads cost 200-300 rupees, but ZMA/R's costs 1200. Why? It lasts longer as well. As simple as that!
BTW, I'm still on my stock rear brake pads at 32k kms. Running on 3rd set of front pads. Expecting to change both at 40k mark.

Clutch plates are 1400 odd, sprocket kit is 970 (includes both sprockets + chain, unlike Honda).
Do let us know if we can help you further in making an informed decision.

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I observed the exhaust for smoke but saw nothing. Its fully clear. And my fuel injector was cleaned about 500kms back for the same reason. I suspected that it was a blocked pump. But the pump was cleaned and also the pressure is proper. And as [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] said, clutch plates were replaced about 10k kms back, and that too for the same reason!! Burning smell and loss in pick up! Mechanic had said it was due to the clutch plates. But still on replacing it, i faced issues. Problem is, i had not got a chance to ride in dense traffic for almost 7k kms. It was done only on highway. Only two weeks back i started using the bike in traffic and hence i knew the problem was not solved.

Psr sir: Am not quite able to understand the relation between excess air and burning smell.. Could you please clarify it?

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My bad, I did not do my homework.
I would like to add upto what divya_sharan has mentioned.
The zmr might not be as cutting edge, or as powerful as the above bikes but one thing that it does best is comfortable mile munching. No other bike beats it at that, yes, not even the bull. It offers wind protection, smooth and effortless mill, torque right where it is needed a comfortable rider and pillion seat, good economy and perfect ergonomics for long distance riding.

Maintaining the Zmr would be cheaper than the r15 and cbr but more expensive than a duke.

The zmr is as smooth as a cbr250. I understand that you did not find the cbr smooth enough but after the unicorn don't expect similar refinement from zmr too.

More air is making the air fuel mixture lean which makes the bike run lean. That is why the heating issue.

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In addition to questions raised by sir... And answer by experts here... It means buying this bike in today condition where petrol prices inxreases day by day, & the availabity of parts are good. A person like me can think to buy this bike my daily running is 50km with my height is 201cm with weight around 95kg.

The onroad price in delhi is 1,15,000 rs.

Whts the actual mileage of this bike.

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That's it
Am getting rid of Simota and going back to stock. I still don't know if that's the culprit but then i guess i have no way to know for sure. Shall get it removed by Sunday and also i have to change the sprockets. But what if the smell continuous even after getting rid of the filter? Can it not be the fault of the radiator? Restricted oil flow due to blockage or something?

Divya bro: You saw the holes on the air box cover rite? Do you think it will contribute to higher air intake and also a change in sound while using a stock filter? And the amount of air entering the cylinder would be considerably low when compared to the Simota in spite of the holes rite?

And the present condition of my stock filter is shown in pic. I can continue with it for another 5k kms rite? Any steps in cleaning it? Using a vacuum cleaner is safe?



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40-45 in city and 45-50 or higher on highways.
Am using a filter so i guess mine is less. Cause when i calculated the last time and the time before that, i got 45 and 46 respectively in combined highway/city riding.

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The picture is not visible.
Holes in your airbox along with simota? wow man you had some serious air intake there without any fuel going into the bike in comparison.
Even after this if the burning smell comes then get ur gaskets, seals and necessary washers changed, pour some new oil and then see. All this while the extra heat might have taken a toll on these components.
But first check with the stock air filter. Isn't there any way to plug those extra holes? Do it if you can.
The radiator oil flow being blocked is a very rare case so lets start with the basics.

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Haha, it was cause of so much air that i could smoke a p220!! But that was then. Now i care for the engine and so shall try plugging those holes and using the stock filter.

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I do agree with you and let me remind you.. The parts ARE expensive but can last long.. My have changed the entire back cowl and now the bike looks like a brand new one..

I will update this post with the photos of the bills trow morning so that you guys too will get the latest price of the spare parts of ZMR.

Kuch bhi kaho yaar.. from the day I sat on this Bike, I have fell in love with it.. and the big R......... awwwwwwwwwwwwww it means Raghavvvvvvvvvvv my name.. hehe.. Muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh hhhhhhh I love you dhanno.....

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Perfect.. but why did you change the rear cowl? How old is your ZMA?

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Yes, those holes are dangerous. Plug them somehow.

Plastic/fiber parts would be costly as they form the body work. The same plastic fairing alone for a Ninja costs 30k alone (only front ). These are spares that should be replaced only in case of an accident or after prolonged use and normal breakdown in say 5-7 years. They aren't consumables.

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Use M seal Black to seal the holes ...your air box will be good as new functionally.....if you want you can replace the part later...

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Oh ya M seal! Shall do it tomorrow or day after.

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Its 2007 model 43500 kms run

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Seeing what extra holes can do to the engine, I have actually started thinking of putting back the snorkel. Though I love the sound, mileage is great. I have some target before the engine ever gets touched and I mean no harm should be done at all to my bike. What do you think sir?

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I'll be nearing your current figures by 2014 Jan pakka. Let's see if you reach 50k by then. I'd reach 50k in a year from now I guess.

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I already have an existing hid kit consisting of the connectors and the ballast. Problem is the bulb is of 8000k. The road is not visible during rains. So can I get a 4300k hid for the same kit? Osram xenarc is what I saw. Will the visibility be better compared to 8000k?

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