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  • #2086
    Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
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    As a solution the piston rings are being replaced, but the rings will take 7-10 days to arrive.

    I am still wonder how could Shell fuel cause this!!!!
    Thats bad news. Are they charging you?

    Shell fuel...bad?? I just used a tankful of it
    DoN\'t LivE tO DiE, dIe tO LiVe

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    • #2087
      Originally posted by pranay View Post
      Shell fuel...bad?? I just used a tankful of it
      LOL!! i have tank fulls of Shell .. damn!
      i doubt it is entirely the fuel which has caused this..

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      • #2088
        Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
        The cause of my vibration issue has been figured out by the PBK.

        Apparently, bad quality fuel has caused carbon formation inside the cylinder which has lead to scoring of the cylinder block.
        As a solution the piston rings are being replaced, but the rings will take 7-10 days to arrive.

        I am still wonder how could Shell fuel cause this!!!!
        Did u change the brand before? I used Power at the first and then speed till today..

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        • #2089
          Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

          I am still wonder how could Shell fuel cause this!!!!
          It may not be due to Shell fuel but fuel from any petrol pump which you might have used on the long tours.
          I have always used IFTEX System G additive, no matter which company petrol pump fuel I use.

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          • #2090
            wanted to install a 220 piston and bore the head in my 180 ug3...

            kindly drop in suggestions and stuff that i should look out for...

            thanks..

            cheers
            me is rossi.
            Vikram.....

            http://vikramDixit.blogspot.com...


            sach kadwaa hota hai .. ;)

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            • #2091
              @praful: scoring or wear on cylinder walls can be caused due to dirt. Dirt acts as a catalyst and can get caught in the piston rings. This caught up dirt grinds away at the metal when the piston moves in its cycle. Scored pistons/rings or cylinder walls allow that small gap to open up and the oil bypasses rings and enters the combustion chamber. That means, scuffing and scoring occurs when oil film ruptures and allows metal to metal contact of the rings on the cylinder walls. Oil contamination, dirt, hot spots in the cylinder and incorrect ignition timing are some of the most frequent contributors to this.

              More than fuel, I suspect that the oil/oil strainer/air filter or a freak possibility that some dirt must have escaped into the chamber when the plugs were being cleaned.

              Fuel has very little scope in this. Its only when you wash the cylinder with fuel and operate the engine at high rpm without proper lubrication, that, this possibility arises (we know you didnt do that )
              Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

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              • #2092
                Pulsar 220 all blue theme

                here is what i have done in my 22o....just playing around with LEDs and a little creativity...

                here is the link

                YouTube - pulsar 220 all blue theme

                YouTube - 11022009

                please comment on the job done....

                also i played around with the rear view mirrors....though i m still to find a "good look" for these...they are "doing the job" which they are meant to!!!
                will upload the pics soon
                The best things in life are realized on two wheels!

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                • #2093
                  Originally posted by rx100.7050 View Post
                  Before visiting the IDIOTIC K Nagar PBK, my Idling was set up at 1300rpm. Now it has been set at 1000rpm. This is the sole reason why my bike is giving problem while starting. Never ever had this stupid problem. I am really frsutrated now. Tomorrow to my trusted Okhla PBK.
                  I think you should also ask them to increase the idling RPM.

                  Seniors: please comment on mine & his problem please
                  Sure, thanks.
                  Do get yours changed too, for FI its too less.

                  OT
                  Mine is P200, so i can change it myself.
                  But i noticed that when the bike is warm, if i try to set the idle to more than 1200RPM to say 1300-1400 the idle doesnt stay stable, it keeps hovering between 1300-1600RPM, any pointers to the problem, is the fuel mixture lean?
                  Also can someone confirm if mileage decreases with higher idle RPM?
                  Is this a myth?
                  OT

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                  • #2094
                    Topic Merged.
                    :)

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                    • #2095
                      Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                      Praful, when was your engine's head opened last time?

                      or, do u always run on Shell?

                      Anyways, I vaguely remember that u did over 30K KMs on your P220. This need not be because bad quality fuel alone but that would definitely be a contributor. What is the engine decarbonizing frequency mentioned in the manual??
                      Engine head was opened at the last service for a de-carb job! The frequency for which is every 30K kms.

                      I don't usually stick to a particular brand of fuel, but I do stick to my trusted bunks!

                      Originally posted by pranay View Post
                      Thats bad news. Are they charging you?

                      Shell fuel...bad?? I just used a tankful of it
                      Yes, they are charging me!

                      Use shell eyes closed man! I'm sure its not the fuel thats caused this, but they have definitely botched up something during the de-carb last service.

                      Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post
                      Did u change the brand before? I used Power at the first and then speed till today..
                      I use only fuel from BP or Shell, sometime IOC. I have never used any other company's fuel. Plus the bunks that I fill from are the ones I have tried and tested before.

                      Originally posted by surbhit View Post
                      It may not be due to Shell fuel but fuel from any petrol pump which you might have used on the long tours.
                      I have always used IFTEX System G additive, no matter which company petrol pump fuel I use.
                      I too use the iftex system G, but din't use it this time. Coz I use this additive to fuel only once in a while prolly every 4K kms. More over, this cannot be caused due to fuel alone.

                      I have at times filled fuel from obscure bunks on highways due to lack of choice...but never had this issue.

                      Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View Post

                      More than fuel, I suspect that the oil/oil strainer/air filter or a freak possibility that some dirt must have escaped into the chamber when the plugs were being cleaned.

                      Fuel has very little scope in this. Its only when you wash the cylinder with fuel and operate the engine at high rpm without proper lubrication, that, this possibility arises (we know you didnt do that )
                      My gut feeling too, I usually am pretty careful about where I fill fuel from. I need to get to bottom of this, more than anything I guess this is more due some issue caused during the last service!
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                      • #2096
                        Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                        Engine head was opened at the last service for a de-carb job! The frequency for which is every 30K kms.
                        This, I wasnt aware of and it seems that you got your culprit. After a de-carb job, the entire assembly needs to be washed and handled in a dust free environment. This as we know does not exist in any workshop across the country (I am talking about the service centers)
                        Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

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                        • #2097
                          Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View Post
                          This as we know does not exist in any workshop across the country (I am talking about the service centers)
                          Which further means that anyone who has de-carb job pending on his/ her machine is actually inviting potential danger in the future, if getting the de-carb job done now to keep the machine running in perfect condition.

                          How ironic!
                          :)

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                          • #2098
                            Originally posted by Aryan View Post
                            Which further means that anyone who has de-carb job pending on his/ her machine is actually inviting potential danger in the future, if getting the de-carb job done now to keep the machine running in perfect condition.

                            How ironic!
                            wanna get ur sylinder de-carbed aryan?

                            @praful

                            guess ravi is also heading in the same direction!
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                            • #2099
                              Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View Post
                              This, I wasnt aware of and it seems that you got your culprit. After a de-carb job, the entire assembly needs to be washed and handled in a dust free environment. This as we know does not exist in any workshop across the country (I am talking about the service centers)
                              Need to talk to these guys again! Lets see what comes of it!

                              Originally posted by Aryan View Post
                              Which further means that anyone who has de-carb job pending on his/ her machine is actually inviting potential danger in the future, if getting the de-carb job done now to keep the machine running in perfect condition.

                              How ironic!
                              A de-carb is as important as it is dangerous. A bad de-carb job can potentially screwup the engine! But then it is necessary!

                              Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
                              wanna get ur sylinder de-carbed aryan?

                              @praful

                              guess ravi is also heading in the same direction!
                              Yea, Ravi was skeptical about getting it done. Now I guess he's gonne be even more skeptical!
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                              • #2100
                                I visited pbk yesterday and on enquiry I was told that if I buy a bike now, I would get a 2009 model.
                                So how can I distinguish an 08 model from an 09 one?(apart from the white dials)
                                No Nonsense Biker.

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