Re: Karizma/Karizma R

I assume you mean reserve to reserve by R to R. I am running on stock spark plug only. So I guess the difference is not that great. 5kmpl still is a bit more though.
I've done more than 150km after the incident . So I guess I'll make the asc guys do it during service. Agree with the acceleration beyond 80 though. The climb was harder than the zma.

I also remembered the air pressure as you said. So picked 32.
I was referring to roads like these or the ones which are a little better. The zoom was fine on this?

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Try getting a G Power, you'll find there's a difference.
Here are some crops of the roads , you can't make out the actual road condition in the full size pics. Zoom gave me no chance of complaints in this. These were very sharp small stones+sand (broken/under construction road). A couple kms of this. I avoided the notorious Jhabua stretch, else it would have been 60+ kms of the same conditions. Your speeds drop to 20-30 or less as you have to keep an eye out for anything that'll throw you off track. I did notice a couple of small cuts on the rear tyre after going through these roads.

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Looks like you had one hell of a ride.
Guess I'll end up buying the zoom. Thanks for the inputs. Will see if I can get my hands on the g power too.

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Hell of a ride was when I took the Jhabua route towards Indore a few months ago. There are no words to explain the moonscape during those kms. The ZMA performed beautifully however. I didn't have the Ceat Zooms then, the MRF stock tyres held up well, but tried to skid at every opportunity.
This time around, I was more aware of the route and could take the north route via Petlawad-Badnawar, the roads were very good, with no bad stretch along the way, except for this patch crossing into MP.
The NGK G Power is a must for better performance.

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AK3D...for the moonscape roads you should have opted for the Ceat Gripp tires.....

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Haha Anna .
The Ceat Zoom Gripped very well though!

On a serious note - I might not recommend the Gripp or a button type for that route as there is every chance of a thin sharp stone getting in between the tyre groove (much wider in case of button types) and damaging the structure. Maybe that is just an apprehension, but it felt very possible riding there. Last time around, when I did that route, I noticed at least 3 cuts on the MRF Zappers (about half a cm into the tyre). This time, though the potholed distance was very less as I took a different route, I noticed 1 cut on the Ceat zoom (again about half a cm).
I would only hold the NHAI or State transport authority responsible for such bad conditions.

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^ ceat zoom or Mrf zoom? Are you talking about front or rear?

Not always we can say button type tyres prone to get stones in between, if that is the case, off road tyres pattern aren't much different. Puncture can happen any day any road and to any tyre.

I'm going on a trip to meghamalai coming weekend where the ghats section consists of 48 kms, no village in between nor any commercial establishment where I could get tyre repair assistance. I'm going there with tubed M45 and stock front tyre with hope and belief that nothing will happen. Last year when I went had my M45 converted into tubeless, but this time was told that I need to do some more 3-4k kms run before the tyre walls expands to fit the alloy.
The path during the ghats is so bad that max one can do 20-30kmph at most of the stretch and it takes us good 1-2 hours to reach the top.

If we all agree that M45 tyre is a medium compound, I would have torn tyre or seriously damaged. Going by my previous experience, I only tend to think that little bit of road sense and careful negotiation while riding should minimize any impact(I'm not saying we can totally avoid impact).

Again its my personal views and not to discourage anyone here. Peace!

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I have Ceat Zoom F and R tyres. Both are tube types.
Agreed re the puncture part, however this is an apprehension I had, looking at the sharp upward pointing stones. As I posted, the speed did not exceed 20-40 in these stretches.
You had to be on the lookout for these stones all along the way.

Even the Zooms are supposed to be medium compounds, there was a small cut on the tyre I noticed once I was back home. This can happen to any tyre.
Agreed, careful negotiation of the roads is the key to safely traversing them.

All :
A tube type tyre should never be run as tubeless, no matter what anyone says. It is putting your neck at risk as well as others. While you might get by in some situations, the tyre might not perform as expected in others and you'd be at risk.

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Ceat zoom seems to be too tough to find. Found a shop which will try sourcing from others. That too only the rear one. Sirac streets are abundant though and tubeless ones non existent. Quoted 2.3k for the rear ceat zoom. Will mostly go with it if he finds one. For the front, thinking of the sirac street. Is it worth changing the stock front with the Sirac street considering my bike is only 2k kms old?

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Changing front is not needed as the zapper FS is the best front tyre, mine is 45k km old and still looks good.

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I'm sorry to post one more question on tyre in this ownership thread. My stock front tyre is 27k kms old and was told it still got life left. On the other hand, another senior member in my other circle advised about the MRF Zapper FV and said it sticks to the road and got extended shoulders that gives confidence during cornering. Well, I did try in my city and only to hear 'not availabbule'. Has anyone tried out the above said tyre in your bike?

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I did a Google search on the tyre, its hard to find it on the net too, I managed to find one low res image of the tyre, the thread pattern is not at all attractive but people are saying that it is the "stickiest front tyre" by mrf.



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I was able to find this zapper FV pic on the MRF official website. The tyre pattern for front looks ok to me and the shoulders got a cut like pattern which I find it attractive. Offcourse zapper FS is good, no doubt but someone who has tried both recommends, makes me more confident. I'll try to gather more information.

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Gm guys,

My ZMA has done 42k kms in 1 year 10 months. I had given it for a service last week and the mechanic after seeing the odo reading suggested me to do an engine decarbonisation.

I don't mind getting it done but is it necessary to do it and if so at what interval?

Another question .... I had crashed my bike at 25k kms , due to the crash the front fairing and the meter console had to changed and I lost the 25k reading. Is it possible to reset the odo and add this previous 25k to my current reading ?

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Since its over 40k kms you can get the de carbonisation done - i think its the right time.