Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Yes! Relay doesn't improve the performance; its the quality of circuit that improves the performance, and relay is a part of it.

Stock Karizma wiring is good for 35W bulb only. If you use a 55/60w bulb, the bulb will not get the full power from the stock wiring, though it improves the light marginally. Using a thick gauge wire from battery with a relay has tremendously improved the headlight brightness. I have experienced this, and after the relay setup, the lighting of Osram nightbreaker plus (55/60w) improved at least 30% compared to the same bulb with stock wiring. I even noticed reflector melting immediately a couple of days later.

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

360 W is extracted from battery only when you use starter motor. And to handle this current a discrete relay and higher Guage wiring is used. Other than that normal usage is.. 55 watt +/- 5.

What's your point mentioning 360w in related to your quote ??

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Re: Karizma/Karizma R

From a layman's (mine) point of view...30 amps x 12 volt = 360 watts. That is what I learned. Now I am not saying it is an ironclad rule. Maybe it is entirely wrong . I was refering to the capacity of the relay...most H/L relays are rated for 30 amps . I think I mentioned it in that post. I almost ruined my rx100's wiring some 20 years back. Dont want to see anyone making a mistake for want of forewarning.

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Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Riding a bike has two sides like a coin. I had to face the other side of it two weeks back, CRASHED!! I am geared fully, and just escaped with a bruise above left ankle with internal soft tissue injuries. I am recovering now, able to walk normally, with little pain to twist the ankle in some angles. Bike received good damages.

The following received damages.

Front Fender
Front right side cowl
Meter bottom cover stay
Right front indicator
Engine cowl
Silencer shield
Handlebar with right side bar end weights.
Minor scratches on right rear cowl and fuel tank.

When I fell I saw the meter completely dismantled from its position, and thought I had to replace the whole meter assembly. Later I was relieved to see the meter working normally. I was more happy later when I learnt that I just need to replace the meter bottom cover which is just 164 rupees.




















After a week, opened up the bike myself to assess any internal damages.






On operation table, for diagnosis and repair





It was awesome to see the inner meter console, quality oozing everywhere.




Yesterday, rode the bike after 13 days to check the condition of the bike and condition of my left leg. Was able to ride, but with a bit of pain while upshifting.

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Bro I agree with your point. I have been using relays in my zma since 2005. Never used headlamp or horn without a relay since then. Some guys are confused with concept of employing a relay in a circuit. I have seen lot of bikes using a relay without discrete wiring from battery.. hence doing it make no sense of using a relay. And i hope you understand am not pointing anywhere not to use a Relay !

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Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Wow quite an informative and intensive discussion
So is there a specific relay brand that i need to look for?
Or any technical specifications or something??

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Minimum required rating shud be 5 amps.. higher the better. Regarding brand Omron is good AFAIK.

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Re: Karizma/Karizma R

You can get relay kit meant for 4 wheelers (with provision for 2 h/l bulbs) from reputed companies like bosch etc. I just cut off the second connection. For info's sake I am having a 55/60 w Philips Xtremevision headlight bulb connected with a relay , led parkbulbs, 5/10 tail bulbs, 10w rear indicators & led front indicators . Also my battery is 9ah. I wouldn't dream of going back to oe setup. My only complaint is that I can't change the reflector. I am also running dual horns through a relay.

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Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Yeah I had the same problem.. try getting a cracked head lamp from Grey market and replace the reflector alone. I did couple of times..frustrated doing again..and moved to dual xenon projectors.

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Re: Karizma/Karizma R

If you have a big convection oven it's easy to do this..

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Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Get well soon Brother... You are lucky that your meter does not need to be replaced, I had done a good 25K kms last year when I crashed and had to replaced the meter assembly , my readings started back from zero

Why don't you fit a crash guard? It would have saved your bike considerably

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

[MENTION=6275]Ravi[/MENTION] ..Sorry to see that you have met with an accident and recovering now....Take care.

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Hi Guys, Feeling lot of vibrations on foot pegs and under seat, specially between 60-80km/hr after that no vibes till 100km/hr. Have checked all screws and bolts, all fine. What could be the reason? Done 6500kms till date with third service at 5500 kms.

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[MENTION=6275]Ravi[/MENTION] - Sad to read that you and your beloved red beauty touched the ground. I wish you get well soon and back on road.
[MENTION=38654]saravana[/MENTION]priyan : - I guess you are the same person whom I met during ECR ride if I'm not wrong. From the discussion with ACS and Ravi on the relay for headlight, my understanding is that having a relay is good but I'm running 60/55w with no relay. However, have not faced issue. I keep hearing the brightness after the plonking is better, but I have not personally tried it. Well, you gives have given some food for thought, will weigh my options for this mod.

Getting bored these days and after recent morning ride on ECR (Alamparai Fort), have not done any due to summer peaking already. :P

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Yes you are right.. am the one..

Scorching already.. but if we choose a cooler destination We are good.



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