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**BOND_001** · 10-02-2014, 09:24 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Guys,
For some time now my bike is leaking oil between the exhaust outlet and silencer pipe.Can any one tell me why this is happening other than damaged metal o ring.
Also,my mechanic is saying the leak is from the timing chain cover but i don't buy that.

**AK3D** · 10-05-2014, 09:39 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by BOND_001 View Post

Guys,
For some time now my bike is leaking oil between the exhaust outlet and silencer pipe.Can any one tell me why this is happening other than damaged metal o ring.
Also,my mechanic is saying the leak is from the timing chain cover but i don't buy that.

Everybody went quiet.... without details (like were given earlier), it is difficult to troubleshoot things online. Especially when one has made up their mind as to the cause.

1) Are you SURE your bike is leaking oil between the head and the silencer pipe.
Any additional symptoms you could give us, so we have a clue as to what is going on?
1a White smoke from the exhaust?
1b loss of power or erratic RPMs
See, such a leakage from your description happens in the scenario your piston's oil ring is worn out or the exhaust valve has a gap (correct me if I'm wrong, experts). If that is the case, you've got an upgrade written in the bike's future.
What is a damaged metal O ring?
Have you checked the oil level and monitored it throughout a period?
Have you cleaned the engine thoroughly and examined where the oil leakage starts so you can isolate it?
What is very plausible is oil creep from the timing chain cover, all you need to do is buy a gasket and O ring for the timing chain cover and replace it. Another possibility is oil leakage from the tappet covers.

**acs1207** · 10-05-2014, 09:55 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by BOND_001 View Post

Guys,
For some time now my bike is leaking oil between the exhaust outlet and silencer pipe.Can any one tell me why this is happening other than damaged metal o ring.
Also,my mechanic is saying the leak is from the timing chain cover but i don't buy that.

A pic can speak a thousand words....
Also .. clean the area thoroughly and check when leak starts to id the point.
Have no access to pc..hence cant check zma parts pic to see whether metal o ring is there. If there is then its damage can cause this. Also check for loose bolts.

Originally posted by AK3D View Post

Everybody went quiet.... without details (like were given earlier), it is difficult to troubleshoot things online. Especially when one has made up their mind as to the cause.

1) Are you SURE your bike is leaking oil between the head and the silencer pipe.
Any additional symptoms you could give us, so we have a clue as to what is going on?
1a White smoke from the exhaust?
1b loss of power or erratic RPMs
See, such a leakage from your description happens in the scenario your piston's oil ring is worn out or the exhaust valve has a gap (correct me if I'm wrong, experts). If that is the case, you've got an upgrade written in the bike's future.
What is a damaged metal O ring?
Have you checked the oil level and monitored it throughout a period?
Have you cleaned the engine thoroughly and examined where the oil leakage starts so you can isolate it?
What is very plausible is oil creep from the timing chain cover, all you need to do is buy a gasket and O ring for the timing chain cover and replace it. Another possibility is oil leakage from the tappet covers.

**James** · 10-05-2014, 11:29 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Has anyone experienced the phenomenon where the HL gets dimmer as the Revs increase? Yep! Its happening to my bike. Hope i don't have to say rip RR unit!

**sibun** · 10-05-2014, 11:42 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by James View Post

Has anyone experienced the phenomenon where the HL gets dimmer as the Revs increase? Yep! Its happening to my bike. Hope i don't have to say rip RR unit!

There are four wires going into the clips of starter relay. The red wire will be loose or pulled out. Re-fit it back and the problem will most probably go.

**SriramEfunds** · 10-05-2014, 11:42 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by James View Post

Has anyone experienced the phenomenon where the HL gets dimmer as the Revs increase? Yep! Its happening to my bike. Hope i don't have to say rip RR unit!

From my experience the RR unit is working fine. Else while you revv the load by now would have just bursted the headlight. I suspect battery issue. I leave others to share their thoughts.

**acs1207** · 10-06-2014, 01:13 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by James View Post

Has anyone experienced the phenomenon where the HL gets dimmer as the Revs increase? Yep! Its happening to my bike. Hope i don't have to say rip RR unit!

Originally posted by sibun View Post

There are four wires going into the clips of starter relay. The red wire will be loose or pulled out. Re-fit it back and the problem will most probably go.

Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

From my experience the RR unit is working fine. Else while you revv the load by now would have just bursted the headlight. I suspect battery issue. I leave others to share their thoughts.

**s1d** · 10-06-2014, 07:50 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by James View Post

Has anyone experienced the phenomenon where the HL gets dimmer as the Revs increase? Yep! Its happening to my bike. Hope i don't have to say rip RR unit!

Check wiring for lose contacts and especially proper earthing. If not it could be a bad battery or rr unit

**James** · 10-06-2014, 09:20 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Thanks for the replies guys! The RR sometimes does this just before it gets fried. Unfortunately, i don't have access to another RR. All wires are checked and tight. Battery, although relatively new seems to be the suspect. When i switch on the lights, the bike doesn't seem to want to idle.
I will pick up a multimeter and check it over the weekend!

Cheers!

**pravinan** · 10-06-2014, 05:50 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

suspecting a faulty battery. damaged RR may not cause this type of behaviour. at what rpm the headlight starts to dim?

**sanu916** · 10-06-2014, 07:55 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

I had the same problem with my 04zma
When ever I give it a little throttle. The headlight starts to dim.
I had a faulty or a dead battery and now I upgraded to 9amp and its fixed now.

Try with a working battery and then decide if u need a replacement.

https://www.ReflectON.in

**James** · 10-07-2014, 09:42 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

I put in a new Amaron 9amp battery today. Same old story. Only good thing is the bike starts up in a jiffy!!
Will have to replace the cam and rocker assembly over the weekend if possible. The top end in making a racket. Will have to check the wiring at the same time.

**ravi@17bhp** · 10-07-2014, 10:59 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by BOND_001 View Post

Guys,
For some time now my bike is leaking oil between the exhaust outlet and silencer pipe.Can any one tell me why this is happening other than damaged metal o ring.
Also,my mechanic is saying the leak is from the timing chain cover but i don't buy that.

The leakage must be from exhaust valve door or the head or from the timing chain cap on left side. First clean the engine thoroughly with petrol without any traces of oil. Then check periodically and see from where the oil is leaking.

Originally posted by James View Post

Has anyone experienced the phenomenon where the HL gets dimmer as the Revs increase? Yep! Its happening to my bike. Hope i don't have to say rip RR unit!

First clean the contacts of relay (both in and out) and the main 20 amp fuse contacts. If you are still facing the problem, then I suspect one phase of your alternator is busted.

**s1d** · 10-08-2014, 07:32 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by James View Post

I put in a new Amaron 9amp battery today. Same old story. Only good thing is the bike starts up in a jiffy!!

looks more like a earthing or a RR unit issue. take a multimeter and get the voltage drop checked at the earthing points.
also do let us know the voltage readings from the battery at:
1. disconnected
2. idle
3. around 3500 rpm

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

First clean the contacts of relay (both in and out) and the main 20 amp fuse contacts. If you are still facing the problem, then I suspect one phase of your alternator is busted.

yep do get the wiring and contacts cleaned.. first swap the RR unit, if not go ahead with getting the alternator checked.

**rreneav1987** · 10-08-2014, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by James View Post

Has anyone experienced the phenomenon where the HL gets dimmer as the Revs increase? Yep! Its happening to my bike. Hope i don't have to say rip RR unit!

Are the beams working fine? I mean both low beam and high beam? I have had this kind of issue before. It happened because both the high beam and low beam filament were on at the same time. The beam was neither powerful nor sufficient.. it also dimmed when i increased the RPM. If this is the case, pull out the bulb and fit it back.. this might solve the issue.

On the other hand. Is your bike creating any electrical failures? As in the tripmeter getting reset when using self or the battery dying out when you use self?

Press the horn with the headlights turned on.. see if the horn sound reduces when you do so.. also does your battery drain out if you use the headlights continuously??

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