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**HyperRetard** · 12-25-2014, 01:18 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Good condition, 2004 Model - Amritsar - Motorcycles

Is this a good buy?

**harishkumarko** · 12-25-2014, 01:23 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by HyperRetard View Post

Good condition, 2004 Model - Amritsar - Motorcycles

Is this a good buy?

Stay away. Doesn't look well maintained. Its a first gen Karizma which has inferior fuel efficiency than the later versions. Most importantly 50K is way way too high for a Karizma particularly that old.

**BPD** · 12-25-2014, 01:45 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by pravinan View Post

2. Brake pads.

I am using the RTR disk break pad without any modifications - direct fit.

Originally posted by pravinan View Post

I'm facing a weird sound when closing the throttle from 4 to 5 rpm? The sound is like factory bell ringing calling the workers. the sound is heard from the left hand side some where near the oil case/engine cover. Have shown to few mechs, they are not able to identify the issue. Have done a lot of long trips no issues.

It seems that your timing chain is making that sound when closing the throttle, and the timing chain tensioner is weak too.
If at all you need replace the chain and tensioner, remember to replace the guide too.

Originally posted by pravinan View Post

the chain hits the guard when going through some pot holes. Try adjusting the chain no go. Chain sprocket is 9,000 kms odd old.

Kindly check the alignment of your rear wheel. Even a small misalignment may cause fast chain wear.

- told you all these based on my experience with my beloved machine and that may be wrong too. PSR sir would be the best person to guide us here.

I am having another question to PSR sir, what if I remove the chain cover? It would be easy to wash and lube the chain.

I am ready with 10no. spanner in my hand - just a nod from PSR sir, I'll go straight to my garage and get rid of the chain cover. I really don't like the chain cover. Bare chain and sprocket looks so gorgeous. I really don't understand why people cover up the most beautiful things.

Soulfuel @ 9830072897

**psr** · 12-25-2014, 10:39 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by pravinan View Post

I'm planning for a Tyre change. Bike is close to 46,000.

1. Spark plug- NGK G power- can some one guide on where to source it in chennai?
2. Brake pads.
3. Accelerator cable.
4. Choke cable- sort of getting stuck.
5. 55/60w bulb.

I'm facing a weird sound when closing the throttle from 4 to 5 rpm? The sound is like factory bell ringing calling the workers. the sound is heard from the left hand side some where near the oil case/engine cover. Have shown to few mechs, they are not able to identify the issue. Have done a lot of long trips no issues.

The weird sound disturbs me some times. PSR sir can you throw some light on this sound? If possible I will try to record it.
@bala- can you tell the from where you got the light.

Sorry to see you running into a series of problems...
The Sirac Street is now made in India by TVS tires with Hard compound..

1. Spark Plugs....for all NGK requirements contact Good will Agencies in Gopalapuram..
Goodwill Agencies
Contact: Mr. S. Pradeep Chordia
Tel: 044-28113180 / 28113306
Mobile: 9840109879
E-Mail: [email protected]
Address: 357, (Old No. 171), Avvai S.Road,1st Floor, Lloyds Road, Gopalapuram, Chennai-600086

2. Brake Pads : Go for Stock OE pads or if it is too expensive ...Shriram Alpine pads since they are good and do not score the Disc...

3. &4 Contact Southern Agencies Spares dept at Nandanam next to Avenue Nissan Showroom..
5. 55/60 Watts bulb...Any Car spares seller can provide you with this...GP road...

The weird sound can be diagnosed only after hearing it..if it is continuous then Timing chain slack is the suspect.....Southern Hero ASC near Avenue Nissan Showroom seems better than others so far known to me...

**pravinan** · 12-25-2014, 11:33 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by psr View Post

Sorry to see you running into a series of problems...
The Sirac Street is now made in India by TVS tires with Hard compound..

1. Spark Plugs....for all NGK requirements contact Good will Agencies in Gopalapuram..
Goodwill Agencies
Contact: Mr. S. Pradeep Chordia
Tel: 044-28113180 / 28113306
Mobile: 9840109879
E-Mail: [email protected]
Address: 357, (Old No. 171), Avvai S.Road,1st Floor, Lloyds Road, Gopalapuram, Chennai-600086

2. Brake Pads : Go for Stock OE pads or if it is too expensive ...Shriram Alpine pads since they are good and do not score the Disc...

3. &4 Contact Southern Agencies Spares dept at Nandanam next to Avenue Nissan Showroom..
5. 55/60 Watts bulb...Any Car spares seller can provide you with this...GP road...

The weird sound can be diagnosed only after hearing it..if it is continuous then Timing chain slack is the suspect.....Southern Hero ASC near Avenue Nissan Showroom seems better than others so far known to me...

Thank you Sir for the reply. I have seen in some post you mentioning about Ninja 250 brakes pads is a straight fit to ZMA. I felt the stopping power less adequate from Stock pads. . I have just replace the rotor 500kms back. I have enquired and found ninja brake pads costs around 1420 approx. Will ninja pads provide better stopping power?

taking the bike for a 200 km trip today. Will try to record the sound and also will post the video of bike idling during cold start

**psr** · 12-25-2014, 02:28 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by pravinan View Post

Thank you Sir for the reply. I have seen in some post you mentioning about Ninja 250 brakes pads is a straight fit to ZMA. I felt the stopping power less adequate from Stock pads. . I have just replace the rotor 500kms back. I have enquired and found ninja brake pads costs around 1420 approx. Will ninja pads provide better stopping power?

taking the bike for a 200 km trip today. Will try to record the sound and also will post the video of bike idling during cold start

Yes the Ninja 250 Front brake pads are straight fit and gives better braking. Since it is made of Sintered metal the braking is very superior even in wet condition, unlike the Organic compound ones like the OE and Shriram Alpine...
Do not use RTR pads since they contain steel particles which will kill the Disc ROTOR

**BPD** · 12-25-2014, 04:10 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by psr View Post

Yes the Ninja 250 Front brake pads are straight fit and gives better braking. Since it is made of Sintered metal the braking is very superior even in wet condition, unlike the Organic compound ones like the OE and Shriram Alpine...
Do not use RTR pads since they contain steel particles which will kill the Disc ROTOR

Got it Sir.

Soulfuel @ 9830072897

**psr** · 12-26-2014, 10:12 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

A humble request to all members..Please stop calling me "Sir" ...I am here to learn and share just like all the other members...

**karizmar2014** · 12-26-2014, 10:12 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

I have New Karizma 2014. Recently, I felt air coming out from the silencer down on my feet. Feels like a tiny hole on the bottom side of the silencer. Does silencer have that hole or is it a problem?

**Jith_in** · 12-26-2014, 02:20 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by karizmar2014 View Post

I have New Karizma 2014. Recently, I felt air coming out from the silencer down on my feet. Feels like a tiny hole on the bottom side of the silencer. Does silencer have that hole or is it a problem?

Every silencer has that hole it is not a problem. That helps to drain out water entering on washing

**anmol_1990** · 12-26-2014, 04:01 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

What is the right time to replace front brake pads and rear shoe? Mine is nearing 20k in sometimes.

Edit - also since the service is due, i would like to take opinions regarding whether I should continue taking my bike to authorised service center only or switch to a good neighbourhood service guy? Only benefit in doing so seems to be some cost & time saving minus a little peace of mind.

What you guys suggest?

**pravinan** · 12-26-2014, 08:40 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by anmol_1990 View Post

What is the right time to replace front brake pads and rear shoe? Mine is nearing 20k in sometimes.

Edit - also since the service is due, i would like to take opinions regarding whether I should continue taking my bike to authorised service center only or switch to a good neighbourhood service guy? Only benefit in doing so seems to be some cost & time saving minus a little peace of mind.

What you guys suggest?

crossed 46,000 as of today. Will be celebrating the 3rd year of ownership on jan 5.

my replacement schedules were 16k, 33k, going to replace shortly after reaching chennai. both times i have used stock pads. This time going for ninja pads as it cost 400 more approx than hero brake pads. rear shoes are changed every 5 to 7k.

I stick to service centers until 18,000 kms. after that i do simple things myself, whenever I get some unidentifiable issue, i post it here and try myself. if i'm not able to do it, I note down points from the members and instruct the mechanics to do.

from my experience, service center mechanic doesn't listen to customers, but road side mechanics listen and do as we say

**BPD** · 12-26-2014, 10:24 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by pravinan View Post

I stick to service centers until 18,000 kms. after that i do simple things myself, whenever I get some unidentifiable issue, i post it here and try myself. if i'm not able to do it, I note down points from the members and instruct the mechanics to do.

from my experience, service center mechanic doesn't listen to customers, but road side mechanics listen and do as we say

I am also following exactly same process. But I think at least once in a year the bike should be serviced from ASC because if we would miss any issue, the ASC mechanic may find it. Another reason is that the rubber parts are very rear in open market and the local mechanic don't even understand the reason for using them. But in ASC, they source it somehow and change it as and when required.

Soulfuel @ 9830072897

**pravinan** · 12-26-2014, 10:51 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by BPD View Post

I am also following exactly same process. But I think at least once in a year the bike should be serviced from ASC because if we would miss any issue, the ASC mechanic may find it. Another reason is that the rubber parts are very rear in open market and the local mechanic don't even understand the reason for using them. But in ASC, they source it somehow and change it as and when required.

Soulfuel @ 9830072897

I lost trust in service centres when my bike fork cone set(ball's race kit) problem. the bike would wobble after hitting a speed breaker or pothole. when i stop and start, bike will be back to normal. more than 4 service centres said different issues like handle bar bend, fork tube problem, frame bend. They did not take my words Got solution from Ravi and PSR, got the balls race kit and the whole issue was fixed in a span of 1 hour and cost including labour was under 250rs.

I haven't faced spare availablity issues parts until now atleast in chennai.

**suresh8104** · 12-28-2014, 05:42 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Hello Xbhpians..

Hello Ravi@17bhp and psr sir..

These days i am noticing some tuck-tuck/rattling sound from engine. It lasts only for few seconds when I start the engine (when the engine is hot) and it goes of when the vehicle starts moving on gear. I wonder what might be the reason. My vehicle is almost near to its 4th free service ODO is 8777. Can you please give me some inputs on it.

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