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**acs1207** · 09-04-2011, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

Any idea on this??? PSR Sir???

I guess one or more of the bolts that secure it may have come loose . With the rear fairing taken off I think you can locate the culprit .

**ashwinprakas** · 09-04-2011, 06:42 PM

PSR Sir, you ROCK!!! My acceleration slack's gone, now one question remains.

Should I add 2T every time I refill or otherwise????

Completed a 75km G2G trip today with fellow xbhpian Athul and the problem didnt show up at all.

**psr** · 09-04-2011, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

Any idea on this??? PSR Sir???

I think I answered this query a few pages back.you posted the query with pic from manual...still the answer is the center stay bolt fixing had gone bad...

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

PSR Sir, you ROCK!!! My acceleration slack's gone, now one question remains.
Should I add 2T every time I refill or otherwise????
Completed a 75km G2G trip today with fellow xbhpian Athul and the problem didnt show up at all.

Glad to be of help..Try adding 2T every other fill.....though i do it every fill with good effect.If you want to do every fill then reduce the 2T to 1ml per liter,and see...

**ashwinprakas** · 09-04-2011, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Glad to be of help..Try adding 2T every other fill.....though i do it every fill with good effect.If you want to do every fill then reduce the 2T to 1ml per liter,and see...

Will stick with 2ml for every liter, and castrol it is, just a few more doubts to be cleared.

1. Are there any illeffects of adding excess 2T oil??? One of my friends said that it'll cause the bike to emit excess smoke.

2. And sir, how to you manage to carry oil with you? i.e every time you fill???
Im planning on getting myself a syringe with measure so that I'll be able to carry the necessary amount with me, in case I ever need to fill up on the way.

3.(Out of current topic) ZMA's carb works on vacume right?? So how does it differ from mikuni carbs??? I just thought about another theroy, cause I've felt the slack issue only after my bike's been ridden by someone else(pulsar rider) so does that issue have anything to do with the acceleration pattern of pulsars(i.e hard). Cause now am really happy and settled with my ride and am worried if the issue'll pop up after my bikes ridden by someone(pulsar rider) else other than me.

**psr** · 09-04-2011, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Will stick with 2ml for every liter, and castrol it is, just a few more doubts to be cleared.

1. Are there any illeffects of adding excess 2T oil??? One of my friends said that it'll cause the bike to emit excess smoke.
Do not add more than 2 ml 2 T per liter of Petrol...more will cause build up of carbon on piston head leading to higher compression and pre-ignition ,leading to hole in piston.

2. And sir, how to you manage to carry oil with you? i.e every time you fill???
I don't carry oil...after filling petrol i will come home and add 2T..this is a 4 stroke not needing oil with petrol like a 2stroker.
Im planning on getting myself a syringe with measure so that I'll be able to carry the necessary amount with me, in case I ever need to fill up on the way.
This is not at all necessary..All these days you have used ZMA without 2 T and nothing bad had happened..remember ZMA is a four stroke bike with separate oil lube through specific holes and oil ring in Piston.

3.(Out of current topic) ZMA's carb works on vacume right??
Yes
So how does it differ from mikuni carbs???
No difference functionally..IF you are comparing Keihin CV and Mikuni CV carbs.
I just thought about another theroy, cause I've felt the slack issue only after my bike's been ridden by someone else(pulsar rider) so does that issue have anything to do with the acceleration pattern of pulsars(i.e hard). Cause now am really happy and settled with my ride and am worried if the issue'll pop up after my bikes ridden by someone(pulsar rider) else other than me.
Issue not connected with the incident.Do not lend your bike if you care for it.

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**ashwinprakas** · 09-04-2011, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

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Gulp!!! Yesterday had 3 bars remaining on my fuel guage so assuming 1 bar carries two liters I added a rounded value of 15ml....Did I messup

**psr** · 09-04-2011, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Gulp!!! Yesterday had 3 bars remaining on my fuel guage so assuming 1 bar carries two liters I added a rounded value of 15ml....Did I messup

No probs,relax ....the value is not high enough to cause problem...since 6 liters can tolerate 12 ml and you added extra additional 0.5ml to the liter which is ok...but do not repeat it......do not add any 2 T next fill, and continue IF YOU WANT ,thereafter.
Remember the 2 T is not mandatory and warranted, and added only for Petrol tank, fuel sensor and Carb slide smooth functioning ..ABSENCE OF 2 T WILL NOT CREATE PROBLEM...bike is designed to run without it anyway.

**ashwinprakas** · 09-04-2011, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

No probs,relax ....the value is not high enough to cause problem...since 6 liters can tolerate 12 ml and you added extra additional 0.5ml to the liter which is ok...but do not repeat it......do not add any 2 T next fill, and continue IF YOU WANT ,thereafter.
Remember the 2 T is not mandatory and warranted, and added only for Petrol tank, fuel sensor and Carb slide smooth functioning ..ABSENCE OF 2 T WILL NOT CREATE PROBLEM...bike is designed to run without it anyway.

Sir just to be on the safe side, whats the MAXIMUM tollerance for a litre of petrol. Cause if 3bars means below 12ltrs then am screwed!!!

**acs1207** · 09-05-2011, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Sir just to be on the safe side, whats the MAXIMUM tollerance for a litre of petrol. Cause if 3bars means below 12ltrs then am screwed!!!

Jus go and fill 2 lts petrol tomorrow morning !

**ashwinprakas** · 09-05-2011, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by acs1207 View Post

Jus go and fill 2 lts petrol tomorrow morning !

I already ran 75kms like this... Will adding 2lts petrol tomorow do the job????

**Brat** · 09-05-2011, 01:07 AM

Originally posted by psr View Post

No probs,relax ....the value is not high enough to cause problem...since 6 liters can tolerate 12 ml and you added extra additional 0.5ml to the liter which is ok...but do not repeat it......do not add any 2 T next fill, and continue IF YOU WANT ,thereafter.
Remember the 2 T is not mandatory and warranted, and added only for Petrol tank, fuel sensor and Carb slide smooth functioning ..ABSENCE OF 2 T WILL NOT CREATE PROBLEM...bike is designed to run without it anyway.

PSR sir, I would agree if we were to suggest Ashwin to add 2T to the litre of petrol once in a while - in order to compensate for his dead area in acceleration, also it is a proven fact that 2T has abilities to lubricate injectors/carbs and provide full burning and increased compression. but just to clarify, this is done once or twice in 6 months or so. Right?

Wouldn't doing this on a regular basis - such as during every alternate fuel fillup or so, warrant carbon buildup and actually cause degradation? Does this extra carbon deposit affect the O2 sensor or the catcon? It is likely that some of the 2T may vaporize due to high temp on the chamber or exhaust but the deposits on the intake manifold would still persist if done regularly, isn't it? Pls correct me if i am wrong.

**Brat** · 09-05-2011, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

whats the MAXIMUM tollerance for a litre of petrol

Ashwin - The ideal rate for starting to do this would be 1ml per litre of petrol but 2ml is acceptable/max.

**ashwinprakas** · 09-05-2011, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by Brat View Post

Ashwin - The ideal rate for starting to do this would be 1ml per litre of petrol but 2ml is acceptable/max.

Shit!!! Guess I've overdosed(15ml for 3 blocks of petrol on guage).... Anyways wont do it again.. Will there be any serious damages...????

**acs1207** · 09-05-2011, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

I already ran 75kms like this... Will adding 2lts petrol tomorow do the job????

If you have put in excess 2t oil , then it will get diluted .

**acs1207** · 09-05-2011, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by Brat View Post

Wouldn't doing this on a regular basis - such as during every alternate fuel fillup or so, warrant carbon buildup and actually cause degradation? Does this extra carbon deposit affect the O2 sensor or the catcon? It is likely that some of the 2T may vaporize due to high temp on the chamber or exhaust but the deposits on the intake manifold would still persist if done regularly, isn't it? Pls correct me if i am wrong.

I think this has been discussed earlier . The quantity of 2T oil is too small ( 0.2% ) to inflict any significant damage when used in moderation . Consider your having to top up engine oil once in a while . Where has the oil gone ? Into the cylinder (except if it's an external leak) and gets burned up . You might have seen umpteen number of vehicles ( 2 & 4 wheelers) spewing smoke . Most of them have engine oil burning . If ever you have - or you think you have - put in excess 2T oil , fill in a couple of liters of petrol and the oil mixed petrol gets diluted that much . If still in doubt , fill in 2 more liters petrol !!

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