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**pranay** · 02-13-2009, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by santoosh View Post

The Delta Box Chassis is 200 pc rigid compared to regular chassis.
That does not mean that it cant get bent.

Its not what speed u fell , its about how the impact was,

There are all possibilities that the chassis could have bent.
But thing with computer is Bull shit.

If there is a bend and u feel it , then insurance, else just ride the bike if u dont feel aything.

The mags could be bent, Did u hit a pot hole with a pillion at 100 for swingarm to bend?
or someone rammed into u from behind ?

Ride the bike at 40 , see if the bike is pulling to one side , see if ur braking is alright.

Santa

No santoosh, actually his fall was very minor.

Originally posted by sajiv View Post

The crash was not 'that' bad.. I over-cooked a right hand turn.. had to change the right-side fairing..

It seems he crashed on the track. And also a 'minor' one recently. Such crashes should no way affect the chassis. Although, I have not seen his damage, I would imagine that it would not require a chassis replacement, unless the impact was very severe.

The DB frame of the R15 can hold upto 200 kgs of mass, if I am not wrong. Pulsars, its 130 kgs. But who follows that

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**santoosh** · 02-13-2009, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by pranay View Post

No santoosh, actually his fall was very minor.

It seems he crashed on the track. And also a 'minor' one recently. Such crashes should no way affect the chassis. Although, I have not seen his damage, I would imagine that it would not require a chassis replacement, unless the impact was very severe.

The DB frame of the R15 can hold upto 200 kgs of mass, if I am not wrong. Pulsars, its 130 kgs. But who follows that

?

Hmm.its not about the weight what the bike can carry.
Its to do with the Impact of the fall.
Iv rammed into a guy at 100 head on my pulsar.

I dint even fall of the bike , Fork dint bend , But the chassis did.

U may fall at 20 , the wrong way , to cause a right damage.

I no way agree to the Generic Statement saying that

"It seems he crashed on the track. And also a 'minor' one recently. Such crashes should no way affect the chassis. Although, I have not seen his damage, I would imagine that it would not require a chassis replacement, unless the impact was very severe. "

I dont blindly agree to what Yam SS guys say , U decide , if u feel its there.
Do the right thing.

Just cos its a delta box , it doesnt mean it can handle anything and cant bend easily.

Best example i can give u is of a mobile display.
It might fall when u are riding and still be intact.

A fall from 2 Feet when ur sittin in CCD and the Mobile may go Kaput....

Possible ???

@archi-- What is disc brake adjustment ??

Something new to me....

Santa
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**mithun.08** · 02-13-2009, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by santoosh View Post

Best example i can give u is of a mobile display.
It might fall when u are riding and still be intact.

A fall from 2 Feet when ur sittin in CCD and the Mobile may go Kaput....

Possible ???

@archi-- What is disc brake adjustment ??

Something new to me....

Santa

@santa:

nice example, one more example, my collar bone, fell at 0 kmphr and it broke because the impact was big

@archi: whats with disc adjustment.. it cant be adjusted just like drum brake be more clear

**archibaby** · 02-13-2009, 12:56 PM

To adjust the hydraulics to compensate for the wear in the pad. This will help restore tautness to the lever feel in case it has gone spongy. I know that the piston moves in to compensate .. hence the lever feels spongy. This can be adjusted I am sure .. but don't have time for trial and error.

.:. Archi

**santoosh** · 02-13-2009, 12:59 PM

U cannot compensate the wear in the pad , by trying to adjust the play , U bleed the reservoir only in case of an air bubble.

Else oly thing is change pad , and avoid usage of disc continuously.

Santa
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**pranay** · 02-13-2009, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by santoosh View Post

Hmm.its not about the weight what the bike can carry.
Its to do with the Impact of the fall.
Iv rammed into a guy at 100 head on my pulsar.

I dint even fall of the bike , Fork dint bend , But the chassis did.

U may fall at 20 , the wrong way , to cause a right damage.

I no way agree to the Generic Statement saying that

"It seems he crashed on the track. And also a 'minor' one recently. Such crashes should no way affect the chassis. Although, I have not seen his damage, I would imagine that it would not require a chassis replacement, unless the impact was very severe. "

I dont blindly agree to what Yam SS guys say , U decide , if u feel its there.
Do the right thing.

Just cos its a delta box , it doesnt mean it can handle anything and cant bend easily.

Possible ???

Santa

Hmm. Ok. Point. It is possible. I think there a lot of factors to consider, like the point of impact on the bike, and the amount of impact that it took place in. I agree that speed is not a factor to determine the damage. I myself have taken a fall at around 80 with alot of damage to myself and none to the bike except scraping and scratches, where as another fall at 40 resulted in hardly any damage to myself but alotta damage to the bike (forks bent, chassis bent, tank replacement, headlight replacement, headlight assembly replacement, and basically most of the exteriors.

The statement I made was not intended to be generic, it was meant to be focused towards sajiv's crash. I just meant that bike frames don't bend easily. It needs a lot of impact.

**archibaby** · 02-13-2009, 01:10 PM

No air bubble .. no bleeding required. Am sure the brake lever can be adjusted. The backpressure by the brake fluid needs to be corrected. This I think can be done by playing around with the adjusting nut on the caliper. Have to research more. Also as a precaution for everybody .. DO NOT remove the rubber buffer/stopper .. it's a pain to put it back.

.:. Archi

**navnish** · 02-13-2009, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by archibaby View Post

No air bubble .. no bleeding required. Am sure the brake lever can be adjusted. The backpressure by the brake fluid needs to be corrected. This I think can be done by playing around with the adjusting nut on the caliper. Have to research more. Also as a precaution for everybody .. DO NOT remove the rubber buffer/stopper .. it's a pain to put it back.

.:. Archi

what archi .. dude no work huh

.. dont mess with the breaks... if it gives up you will be history ...

sajiv is going to get his bike today from pacer suggested him to go to some other ss guy and get it checked. lets see what happens today..

and today yamaha pisses me more .. got a happy birthday message

that to early morning .

**santoosh** · 02-13-2009, 01:43 PM

O happy budday :-P

I did get one on my buddaY Too
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**pranay** · 02-13-2009, 01:47 PM

@Navnish: Happy B'day dude!!

@Archibaby, santoosh: I don't know much about disc brake tech. So I referred to this.

Its a good article.

Disc Brake Tech

http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/disc-brake-tech-3437.html

Most of us can't afford to run out and buy a new bike every time something goes wrong or needs adjusting. So as consumers, we are familiar with the ever-so-painful and expensive trip to the local dealership or mechanic...

**archibaby** · 02-13-2009, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by navnish View Post

what archi .. dude no work huh

WFH

.. and happy birthday.

.:. Archi

**navnish** · 02-13-2009, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by santoosh View Post

O happy budday :-P

I did get one on my buddaY Too

Originally posted by pranay View Post

@Navnish: Happy B'day dude!!

@Archibaby, santoosh: I don't know much about disc brake tech. So I referred to this.

Its a good article.
Disc Brake Tech

Originally posted by archibaby View Post

WFH

.. and happy birthday.

.:. Archi

buggers my bday is in august .. god know what the hec these yamaha india guys do.

cont.. with the diks break topic ...

**darkknight** · 02-13-2009, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by DriftKingNT View Post

@darkknight - I am having the same alignment problem as you had. The front windscreen is also vibrating a lot. Should I change the HL Stay? This had happened after a crash long time back.

@harshaguduru - Whose bike's tank is it? Really bad. How much does a tank cost BTW?

windscreen vibrations have no connection to HL Stay.
as for alignment it is quite evident.U don't even need to ride.just sit on the bike.
make the tyre absolutely straight.ask someone to verify from front.
than take a look at handle.
In the left & right hand sides spaces if there is difference than only the stay is bent othrwise not.
hope this helps

**DriftKingNT** · 02-13-2009, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by darkknight View Post

windscreen vibrations have no connection to HL Stay.
as for alignment it is quite evident.U don't even need to ride.just sit on the bike.
make the tyre absolutely straight.ask someone to verify from front.
than take a look at handle.
In the left & right hand sides spaces if there is difference than only the stay is bent othrwise not.
hope this helps

I have gap between the fairing and the HL cowl on the right side. It is there since a crash. There is no such gap on the other side. I also had got some damage on the HL cowl in that crash so I got it changed but the gap is still present there and i can notice that it is expanding slowly.
About the vibration part. It started the day I got my HL cowl changed. Didnt notice any vibration before that.

**darkknight** · 02-13-2009, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by DriftKingNT View Post

I have gap between the fairing and the HL cowl on the right side. It is there since a crash. There is no such gap on the other side. I also had got some damage on the HL cowl in that crash so I got it changed but the gap is still present there and i can notice that it is expanding slowly.
About the vibration part. It started the day I got my HL cowl changed. Didnt notice any vibration before that.

same here w.r.t gap.
need to remove all panels and refit.
ss guys don't spare so much time hence will do it myself with the help of a friend.
for vibrations talk with the mechanics at ss.
they might help

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