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  • Originally posted by tibby View Post
    That was really informative. Thanks mate!
    Only goes to add to the fact that we shouldn't pour water over a hot engine..

    I have another question for all, open to discussion.
    It is advised to not ride hard (rip) till the engine is warmed up. For this it is said that one must cover about atleast 5-7 kms KMs so that the engine is warm enough, & then begin riding hard.
    How about the fact that I start on a cold engine, ride it in pathetic stop-go tarffic for say 2 KMS, & by this time the engine is really hot (due to the traffic).
    Can this be considered as an engine warm enough for ripping after this 2 KM stretch has been completed? Or is a warm engine different from a heated up engine?
    Whats with you today man!
    Anyways, if you notice, the engine idling starts at a higher RPM, then comes down to your set idling level say 1.2K RPM or 1.4K RPM. This means the engine is already warmed up. Most people (including me) will not wait even the 2-3 minutes that this takes. Some may. Thats why a few kms.running is advisable for the engine to get warmed up.
    Heating up is already described by you.
    Now lemme tell you something that you mostly already know-ripping on a cold engine puts a lot of load on it, thereby reducing its life. Its like waking a person up&making him lift about 100 kilos weights, as opposed to a person who has already done say stretching exercises&reps with lower weights. Who will be in a better position to take the load? Also in the 1st case, this may have long term effects.
    Lastly I would like to mention, R15 being an LC engine, short bursts after extended heavy traffic riding with the radiator fan on helps in circulating the coolant. You will always notice the bike heating up in traffic, but never on ripping.
    Hope I could drive my point across.
    Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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    • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
      3 psi less on front tyre is not enough to cause a skid. Use both brakes while braking always, in 70% 30% ratio for front&rear, &see what a difference it makes to braking!
      pump the brakes rather than grabbing or staying ON the brakes*, i am learning it now after Satyen's advise and i am learning it fast

      * as much as a manual ABS can do

      Water on a hot engine, NEVER

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      • R15 performance improvement query

        Friends,

        Past couple of months I am looking R15 performance up gradation kit/tools. Finally I came to this site (www.automotivespartsshop.com) and found interesting.

        I had sent email for inquire for the production and what is the possibility to improvement on R15.

        Check the result on Yamaha Vixion




        The guys suggest me below things.

        1) Power cam (so far the most efficient cam i had) 5.8 mm lift------->85 USD
        2) Big Valve head comes with TK valves, valve stem seals, small cam bearing and the head itself. It'd be polish and ported. ------------------------------->386 USD
        3) Bore out your intake to 28 mm ---------------------------------------->38 USD
        4) Protec TCI coil (dyno tested can improve power up to 0.3 HP)------> 46USD

        Others parts

        1) NOB1 3BOLD (TRIBOLD) free flow exhaust ---------------------------->59 USD
        2) Stainless Mesh Air Filter TDR--------------------------------------------->12 USD
        3) UMA Fuel Controller Adjustable------------------------------------------->159 USD

        Shipping 85 around + custom + excise + edu tax etc

        Amount is really big thus I need your expert/valuable advice before deal.
        Last edited by JitenMistry; 06-10-2010, 07:16 PM.
        Watch India's 1st Mivv GP exhaust on YZF R15.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvO6ogatJn0

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        • Originally posted by JitenMistry View Post
          Friends,

          Past couple of months I am looking R15 performance up gradation kit/tools. Finally I came to this site (www.automotivespartsshop.com) and found interesting.

          I had sent email for inquire for the production and what is the possibility to improvement on R15.

          Check the result on Yamaha Vixion




          The guys suggest me below things.

          1) Power cam (so far the most efficient cam i had) 5.8 mm lift------->85 USD
          2) Big Valve head comes with TK valves, valve stem seals, small cam bearing and the head itself. It'd be polish and ported. ------------------------------->386 USD
          3) Bore out your intake to 28 mm ---------------------------------------->38 USD
          4) Protec TCI coil (dyno tested can improve power up to 0.3 HP)------> 46USD

          Others parts

          1) NOB1 3BOLD (TRIBOLD) free flow exhaust ---------------------------->59 USD
          2) Stainless Mesh Air Filter TDR--------------------------------------------->12 USD
          3) UMA Fuel Controller Adjustable------------------------------------------->159 USD

          Shipping 85 around + custom + excise + edu tax etc

          Amount is really big thus I need your expert/valuable advice before deal.
          I think ur professional racer and want to use ur bike only on track , if yes .. and do some research and go for it [yes its lil more costly], if ur not a racer , and want to use the modified by on road then its pure waste and illegal, and none of the xbhp or any other forum members suggest such a thing

          if only power of track if ur worrying about then , just check in this forum one of the guys posted the result of R15 one make race in which his team won .. and they modified there bike to churn out more than 25bhp of power
          Nothing is Impossible ...

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          • Originally posted by nagoo View Post
            I think ur professional racer and want to use ur bike only on track , if yes .. and do some research and go for it [yes its lil more costly], if ur not a racer , and want to use the modified by on road then its pure waste and illegal, and none of the xbhp or any other forum members suggest such a thing

            if only power of track if ur worrying about then , just check in this forum one of the guys posted the result of R15 one make race in which his team won .. and they modified there bike to churn out more than 25bhp of power
            Joel and his team (10Ten racing) did good job, but they will not disclose what they modified on R15 for all, but I guess they did some similar things.

            I am not a professional racer but I want to make my R15 for race track purpose (even i am living Pune only ).

            Question is that, we had discussed lot of on performance improvement but less people had applied it, so just want to know that expert opinion.
            Watch India's 1st Mivv GP exhaust on YZF R15.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvO6ogatJn0

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            • Originally posted by JitenMistry View Post
              Joel and his team (10Ten racing) did good job, but they will not disclose what they modified on R15 for all, but I guess they did some similar things.

              I am not a professional racer but I want to make my R15 for race track purpose (even i am living Pune only ).

              Question is that, we had discussed lot of on performance improvement but less people had applied it, so just want to know that expert opinion.
              yeah .. knowledge is important .. and i guess .. all these modification will seriously reduce the engine life

              hope we get good sexy bike with at-least 35bhp power in future ... of-course with affordable price
              Nothing is Impossible ...

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              • the bike is told to run idle for sometime or to run slowly for 3-4kms becoz by this time the oil in the engine get circulated to every part where it is needed as when we park our vehicle for several hours the oil gets collected at the bottom...

                the engine is warmed up to get maximum output...

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                • i have one more question..

                  today i got my bike serviced, it was the first service...i had earlier in this thread posted about the sound coming from my front shockers when i press them hard or when i go through a speed breaker....the service guys told me that as the bike is new the sound is coming due to pressure building in the shockers.....he told me to cover 1k-2k kms and then the sound will go or else he will look into the matter....

                  i am not in a condition to believe him...can anyone tell is this happened with anyone of you....have u had the same problem...???

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                  • 1000kms clocked.........first service done......gear shifting way way way smoother, also got the gear shifter adjusted to a lower position.

                    There was one thing that practically ruined my whole day though : when the mechanic opened the air filter for cleaning, he found engine oil in the trayish kinda container below it. the air filter was also covered in oil. Since the air filter is of dry type, I had to change the filter. But the question that kept on coming in my mind was what the f happened that caused engine oil to go to the air filter. The mechanic looked for any cracks/cuts in the pipes of the bike but did not find any cuts. He took a 10 km test ride of the bike after replacing the air filter and when he came back, the new filter was as dry as my mouth after running for 3 km continously :P. Anybody got any ideas as to what could have caused the oil to go into the air filter??

                    Also, mineral oil wasn't available in stock so had to put semi-synthetic oil worth Rs415 in her. Any problems that could crop up if semi synthetic oil is used after only 1000kms??

                    Things done in the service:
                    1. Oil filter changed Rs430
                    2. Oil changed to semi synthetic Rs415
                    3. Air filter changed Rs240
                    4. Coolant topped up Rs120
                    5. Chain lubricated Rs120

                    Total cost of first service : Rs 1325........and they say that first 6 services are free :P
                    A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel.

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                    • ^coolant top up rs 120 . wuf Iv not spent 120 rs on coolant altogether in the last 2 years.
                      DIY mate

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                      • Originally posted by Parth View Post
                        1000kms clocked.........first service done......gear shifting way way way smoother, also got the gear shifter adjusted to a lower position.

                        There was one thing that practically ruined my whole day though : when the mechanic opened the air filter for cleaning, he found engine oil in the trayish kinda container below it. the air filter was also covered in oil. Since the air filter is of dry type, I had to change the filter. But the question that kept on coming in my mind was what the f happened that caused engine oil to go to the air filter. The mechanic looked for any cracks/cuts in the pipes of the bike but did not find any cuts. He took a 10 km test ride of the bike after replacing the air filter and when he came back, the new filter was as dry as my mouth after running for 3 km continously :P. Anybody got any ideas as to what could have caused the oil to go into the air filter??

                        Also, mineral oil wasn't available in stock so had to put semi-synthetic oil worth Rs415 in her. Any problems that could crop up if semi synthetic oil is used after only 1000kms??

                        Things done in the service:
                        1. Oil filter changed Rs430
                        2. Oil changed to semi synthetic Rs415
                        3. Air filter changed Rs240
                        4. Coolant topped up Rs120
                        5. Chain lubricated Rs120

                        Total cost of first service : Rs 1325........and they say that first 6 services are free :P
                        Are you sure it was engine oil??? this is interesting.. not heard this one before.

                        Please get your bike checked again after 100-120 kms.

                        Any reduction in oil level when they changed it???

                        It isnt possible for oil to seep in from the sides. It has to be from the intake side if the filter box was closed securely.

                        And next time there is something unique, do take pics from your cell, very important.



                        Originally posted by santoosh View Post
                        ^coolant top up rs 120 . wuf Iv not spent 120 rs on coolant altogether in the last 2 years.
                        DIY mate

                        Santa
                        I know, but some of the new bikes are not coming with adequate coolant. The thing is coolant can be added, but the engine has to be run also for the coolant to circulate properly, if that does not happen, then the level is ok during PDI, but after a few days of running, will go down.


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                        • Originally posted by jd666 View Post
                          Are you sure it was engine oil??? this is interesting.. not heard this one before.
                          Well the mechanic wasn't really sure if it was the engine oil or the coolant. 1 said engine oil, another said coolant. but the one who said engine oil seemed more credible....as the coolant guy was kinda short in height :P

                          Originally posted by jd666 View Post
                          Please get your bike checked again after 100-120 kms.
                          Will do sir.....

                          Originally posted by jd666 View Post
                          Any reduction in oil level when they changed it???
                          When the engine oil was drained, I was careless enough to not take a look at the dip-stick that denotes the level of oil, nor was I smart enough to measure the amount of used engine oil that was poured out of the engine.....crap!!

                          Originally posted by jd666 View Post
                          It isnt possible for oil to seep in from the sides. It has to be from the intake side if the filter box was closed securely
                          Hmm those words went over my head like a fast bowler's bouncer over a batsmen.........:P sorry for being technically inefficient

                          Originally posted by jd666 View Post
                          And next time there is something unique, do take pics from your cell, very important.
                          I hope that nothing out of the ordinary happens to me again.......and if it happens......I'd do a complete photoshoot of the whole unique thing




                          Originally posted by santoosh View Post
                          ^coolant top up rs 120 . wuf Iv not spent 120 rs on coolant altogether in the last 2 years.
                          DIY mate

                          Santa
                          :P gonna scout karol bagh for some DIY stuff for myself

                          1. tubeless tire puncture repair kit
                          2. Rx stand for lubing the chain
                          3. some kerosene and a can of sae90 gear oil
                          4. do I need anything else?? would love to learn to do stuff on my own.......

                          I mentioned to the mech to not lube the chain as the rainy season is almost upon us and moreover I'm looking to invest in the temporary stand for chain lubing myself.......but unhone krdi so I thought hmm why not pay them just this time and if it happens again I won't pay them

                          I was a gentle man today........I'd be Mr.Hard-ass the next time.
                          Last edited by Parth; 06-10-2010, 11:13 PM.
                          A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel.

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                          • Nabed Modde R15



                            MY R15 customize Nabed r15

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                            • Guys

                              Can you help me on my query? I need your expert advice on this.

                              http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post440686
                              Watch India's 1st Mivv GP exhaust on YZF R15.

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvO6ogatJn0

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                              • Originally posted by NABED Alam Bora View Post

                                MY R15 customize Nabed r15
                                Are these ants over the bike
                                Can you please post a clear one although the flame vinyls is looking good
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