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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View Post
    It is normal a bit of uneven gap is acceptable, until you are able to lift the lid even when its.locked.

    Cheers,
    Sanjay
    Thanks for the reply. Was worried if it was not the norm and if water might leak inside.

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    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

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      Originally posted by Kautilya Tiwari View Post
      I recently purchased black CBR250R std in bangalore and have done 300kms till now

      I have a little question, while riding, if you pull your hands off from the handle, the vehicle should ideally go straight. In my case its going slightly to the right. Is there some kind of imbalance or is it normal.

      Also, since the bike is in it's run in, i have not gone beyond 5.5k and i generally keep it at 4.5k. But in this range, the vehicle doesn't feel like its running freely. Accelerating feels as if there is a heavy person sitting on the back.

      Maybe the vehicle naturally drives this way and since i am new to it, i dont know this but i want to be sure..

      What checks should i perform or what could be the problem in general?
      Hey please can someone help me with this?

      I am not saying that the torque is low, i am saying that the vibrations feel somewhat higher.

      Also, at the start of the day, the engine temperature reaches 3 bars just after driving a few hundred metres. Although it never crossed 3, but it rises very quickly.
      Last edited by Kautilya Tiwari; 09-30-2015, 03:26 PM.

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      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by Kautilya Tiwari View Post
        Hey please can someone help me with this?

        I am saying that the torque is low, i am saying that the vibrations feel somewhat higher.
        Did you check the earlier reply ?

        Since its a new bike, bit of vibrations here and there are OK as the engine and the parts are setting themselves and please don't say that the vibrations are unbearable.

        If the vibrations aren't unbearable, perhaps you are expecting more from a single pot to give you smoothness like inline 4. Little vibrations are OK, MAN!!!

        Did you check the tyre pressure or for information did you get the tyres filled with the recommended pressure provided on the swingarm ?

        How much do you weigh and what is the speed at 4-5K rpm. ?

        Edit post :

        Bhai, what kind of reply are you expecting. You should be aware that the bike is in run-in period. Mechanical Parts are setting in as per the tension so its going to heat up soon, once you complete your first service then notice the change. And the temp rising to 3 bars immediately, for how many minutes are you idling the bike and those few hundred metres are in full traffic or the roads are empty ?

        Cheers,
        Sanjay
        Last edited by sanjaysangar1990; 09-30-2015, 03:32 PM.
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        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Originally posted by Kautilya Tiwari View Post
          U

          Hey please can someone help me with this?

          I am not saying that the torque is low, i am saying that the vibrations feel somewhat higher.

          Also, at the start of the day, the engine temperature reaches 3 bars just after driving a few hundred meters. Although it never crossed 3, but it rises very quickly.

          It is advised to do gradual acceleration and deceleration during the Run-in period as per Honda. And there is no rule like we must ride under 5.5k RPM. And for the vibes, yes even i had some during my run-in period. CBR's true torque kicks in beyond 6k rpm.And for the temperature, as long as ur temp bars are in 3, your engine is happy and safe. So complete your run-in period. Just enjoy your ride, vary the rpm and don't restrict under 5k rpm. After your first service, you can see the difference.

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          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

            Originally posted by Kautilya Tiwari View Post
            I recently purchased black CBR250R std in bangalore and have done 300kms till now

            I have a little question, while riding, if you pull your hands off from the handle, the vehicle should ideally go straight. In my case its going slightly to the right. Is there some kind of imbalance or is it normal.

            Also, since the bike is in it's run in, i have not gone beyond 5.5k and i generally keep it at 4.5k. But in this range, the vehicle doesn't feel like its running freely. Accelerating feels as if there is a heavy person sitting on the back.

            Maybe the vehicle naturally drives this way and since i am new to it, i dont know this but i want to be sure..

            What checks should i perform or what could be the problem in general?
            To sum it up in a single word, yes, at 4 to 4.5, it's the sloppiest, especially during traffic jam situations. The torque is there, but it comes way up, not low down, so you'll have to adapt to that.

            Secondly, it does feel the acceleration is sloppy especially on a new CBR. Give it some time for the engine to bed in, remember, it's new bike, tight tolerances. The real deal of the CBR is always felt post 6k RPM after which the attitude of the bike changes. Now, it doesn't mean you don't have to be too much throttle conscious, you can rev the engine to 6.5 to 7k occasionally with absolutely no problem, the key here is variation in throttle response, not a fixed RPM, during running in/bedding in.

            During this time, you might observe the engine heating up quite rapidly, the heat can be felt through lets at times, this is completely normal. A newer engine works harder, which means more heat, and that's why it's imperative to vary the RPM so that the parts bed in good and free up over time.



            Originally posted by Harisankar View Post
            I am able to hear a kind of knocking sound from engine post 6000rpm.It slowly starts once crossing 6K rpm and sound is not so loud. I can hear it only when I ride it with helmet visor open or half helmet. My bike is 6 months old 5k kms on odo,I noticed it post run-in time onwards. but Engine is smooth and no vibrations. Is that the behaviour of this engine? I didnt ride any other CBR to check it
            Maybe you haven't accustomed to it. The CBR itself sounds like knocking especially at around 3 to mid 4 to 5k RPM. One way to see if it if you're having shim noise is to check the bike when it's cold, that way you can clearly differentiate between the shim noise/knock. What I am sharing with is my perspective, it's your bike, if you feel there is drop in performance or abnormal noise, which you haven't observed before, the discretion is ultimately up to you.


            Cheers!
            VJ
            Last edited by B7ACKTHORN; 09-30-2015, 04:15 PM.
            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
            The girl said, 'NO!'


            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


            THE END

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            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

              Originally posted by Kautilya Tiwari View Post
              U


              Also, at the start of the day, the engine temperature reaches 3 bars just after driving a few hundred metres. Although it never crossed 3, but it rises very quickly.
              Temperature bars will reach 3 in few 100 hundred meters. that's quite normal. Need to worry only if it goes above 3 bars.
              Last edited by Harisankar; 09-30-2015, 05:01 PM.

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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by Mail2vasant View Post
                Today i saw 163 on speedo. Chain was cleaned and lubed yesterday, K&N air filter was also serviced yesterday.
                100 mph on a quarter liter bike?. Protective gears will give up after certain speeds, because the impact will be in the order of several tonnes of force, in this case, about 20+ tonnes of force can be expected if say the rider with bike hits a tree or a car, equivalent to a truck ramming over. At such speeds the pressure is enough to squeeze our internal organs and the armor itself.

                Again, a good cruising speed for this bike and our road would be 110-120 kph which it can do easily and safely. Bigger bikes, get bigger dual disc and can help reduce the speed more rapidly. One should not try to ride faster just because of have a good riding gear. At such speeds, riding gear can do sadly nothing literally, but get smashed along, especially in INDIA anything can happen to your well known road

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                Originally posted by Gollum View Post
                Well the bike is rated for 145 but all that depends pn test conditions.
                1. If you are a bulky guy then the bike would not reach its top speed.
                2. what kind of wind speed is present and at what direction
                3. what is the tyre pressure that you are running
                4. the road, if its an incline or a decline or straight
                5. what amount of fuel is in your bike
                6. the fabric or material of your riding gear
                7. your riding position
                8. Bike's age and transmission health
                Yes, a lot of factor needs to be brought in here. But I don't think any bike (Purely on STOCK) can be ridden more faster than what the manufacturer suggests unless you void their ideal conditions. If the manufacturer suggests as 146 kph, then that would be the ideal case considering minimum amount of fuel, average rider weight say 60KGs, etc. Also the manufacturer might not consider the speedo error.

                To get a little top end, you need a less windy day, excellent road, a degree of inclined slope, sprocketing a bit and finally the less weighing rider. The [MENTION=51754]theironhorse99[/MENTION] well explained it.

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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Though I do not want to drag the topic and dilute the essence of this lovely 'ownership' thread; I'm disturbed at the claims of such high speeds on public roads.
                  CBR has the last rev at 12,500 RPM. It does exactly 16 kmph per 1000 RPM. Hence, top speed achieve-able with this math = 200 kmph.

                  Now, a stock CBR doesn't red-line in 6th gear. I haven't seen one. It does somewhere around 9,500 - 9,600 RPM or so.
                  Now the math says, top speed achieve-able = 152 kmph (+-2 kmph).
                  Accounting for 5-8% speedo error, top speed achieve-able = 143 to 148 kmph (roughly) -> that too in ideal conditions, discounting air pressure, bike condition, wind speed etc.

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                  Now, whether you wear an Ironman gear or kurta pyjamas at 100 miles an hour, it is not going to help! In fact, the gear may help keep the organs from spreading on the road in case of a mishap.
                  Such riders are a danger for all road users sharing the same space at that point in time.

                  A humble advice to the original poster, you have a race-track in the form of BIC, please use it for high speed runs.

                  Just because the bike can do 90+ miles an hour doesn't mean one should do it, the first query that should come to mind is:
                  "Will the bike stop within a limited (reasonable) distance if brakes are applied due to some emergency? (Pedestrian/dog/cattle/huge pothole/truck/bus etc)"
                  Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                  Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                  Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                  Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                  ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                  P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                    Though I do not want to drag the topic and dilute the essence of this lovely 'ownership' thread; I'm disturbed at the claims of such high speeds on public roads.
                    CBR has the last rev at 12,500 RPM. It does exactly 16 kmph per 1000 RPM. Hence, top speed achieve-able with this math = 200 kmph.

                    Now, a stock CBR doesn't red-line in 6th gear. I haven't seen one. It does somewhere around 9,500 - 9,600 RPM or so.
                    Now the math says,
                    Forget the math. Now don't get me wrong here, you could have intervened when you spotted the topic earlier itself right, DS, I mean I see you liking posts after posts, but now it's all just a moot point with this post. Let's restrict here.

                    As I said earlier, no two bums are alike and no top speed is the same, hope people get this fact. And anymore topics on top speed will be deleted.

                    Thanks!

                    Cheers!
                    VJ
                    Last edited by B7ACKTHORN; 09-30-2015, 06:22 PM.
                    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                    The girl said, 'NO!'


                    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                    THE END

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Originally posted by Gollum View Post
                      Sanjay, since the new versions of CBR come with black wheels, can they be ordered in silver?
                      I hate the black color scheme of the rims.
                      Only thing you can do is it replace with fellow CBR guy who has silver wheels.
                      I already painted mine to black and gold so I can't now

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                      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                        Now don't get me wrong here, you could have intervened when you spotted the topic earlier itself right, DS, I mean I see you liking posts after posts, but now it's all just a moot point with this post. Let's restrict here.

                        As I said earlier, no two bums are alike and no top speed is the same, hope people get this fact. And anymore topics on top speed will be deleted.

                        Thanks!

                        Cheers!
                        VJ
                        Extremely sorry, for I couldn't intervene earlier. I had to make a big post and I couldn't do it on the app. Got free now and replied (via PC).
                        Also, IIRC; I liked 2 posts; one from Aman about the speedo error thingy and another just above my post.
                        The essence of both posts was the same as mine!

                        Anyways, it's better we keep the clutter out of this thread.

                        Offence? None taken!
                        Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                        Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                        Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                        Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                        ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                        P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View Post
                          For 1&2 point, get the conset greased and tighten the handle and then check if there is any wobble or thud noise. Even after greasing and tightening, if the handle becomes loose then the conset has busted,go for replacement.

                          For point number 3, the speeds you have mentioned are NORMAL. The 250 looses steam post 135 kmph. What are you expecting a speed of 160-170kmph.:banghead:

                          If the bike is heated up fair bit then some noisr will be there and its acceptable.try starting the bike in early morning and then check for noise in shim and timing chain. If the noise is there get it serviced from a decent svc.

                          Cheers,
                          Sanjay
                          I got the coneset nut tightened and it did reduce the thud sound a bit but not completely, will get it greased and tightened again in next service. Talking about the top speed the speeds i quoted were speedo indicated and as you are aware CBR250 has an error of ~6kmph post 100kmph (while ZMR had an error of 1kmph above 100kmph tested on a gps) which means the true speed was just 130 in 5th gear. For a sports tourer i expected a true top speed of 145-150 kmph, even RS200 does a true 143kmph am i expecting too much out of CBR? I feel i can breach 150kmph if the bike is in good condition

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                          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Originally posted by alok urs View Post
                            I got the coneset nut tightened and it did reduce the thud sound a bit but not completely, will get it greased and tightened again in next service. Talking about the top speed the speeds i quoted were speedo indicated and as you are aware CBR250 has an error of ~6kmph post 100kmph (while ZMR had an error of 1kmph above 100kmph tested on a gps) which means the true speed was just 130 in 5th gear. For a sports tourer i expected a true top speed of 145-150 kmph, even RS200 does a true 143kmph am i expecting too much out of CBR? I feel i can breach 150kmph if the bike is in good condition
                            I think you didn't read the posts about top speed from the mods.

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Originally posted by alok urs View Post
                              I got the coneset nut tightened and it did reduce the thud sound a bit but not completely, will get it greased and tightened again in next service. Talking about the top speed the speeds i quoted were speedo indicated and as you are aware CBR250 has an error of ~6kmph post 100kmph (while ZMR had an error of 1kmph above 100kmph tested on a gps) which means the true speed was just 130 in 5th gear. For a sports tourer i expected a true top speed of 145-150 kmph, even RS200 does a true 143kmph am i expecting too much out of CBR? I feel i can breach 150kmph if the bike is in good condition
                              A CBR would do those speeds you want if you've decided to be suicidal.
                              Trust me, the wind noise and stress over 120 clicks would tire you out in no time. Also, such high speeds are plain lunacy!
                              Last edited by Divya Sharan; 09-30-2015, 06:59 PM. Reason: Had posted wrong info about RS200. Removed the same.
                              Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                              Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                              Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                              Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                              ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                              P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                                A CBR would do those speeds you want if you've decided to be suicidal. Also, RS is almost 20 or so kg lesser with almost similar spec.
                                Trust me, the wind noise and stress over 120 clicks would tire you out in no time. Also, such high speeds are plain lunacy!
                                RS weighs just as much as CBR250R, AFAIK. RS200 weighs 165 kg.

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