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  • Originally posted by yashwanthms View Post
    In muddy roads, when I am bound to go slow, should I switch to 1st gear instead? I usually go in 2nd gear with half clutch and then releasing it. Am I doing wrong? I can't go beyond 20kmph in such roads.. So was going in 2nd gear..
    Usually the bike has lil more of torque in the low RPM range of second gear unlike 3,4,5 and 6. From 3rd gear onward you need to down-shift at 4K RPM else the engine starts to lug. But in 2nd gear it has lil more torque(around 3-3.5K RPM range) to have the bike moving. I don't know what exactly will be the RPM range in 2nd gear when the speed is 20kmph. I usually up-shifts at 5-5.5K RPM and downshifts ~4K RPM in every gear. Try riding by this procedure and tell us how you feel.

    P.S: This bike is happy when you up-shifts after 5K RPM and downshifts at 4K RPM. Don't lug your engine.
    Last edited by Binoy; 07-24-2012, 01:23 AM.
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    • The problem is not with the bike but with the riding style.

      This bike hates to be kept at lower revs in higher gears. Period. Either blame it on the short stroke motor and the low mass flywheel or rejoice at the rev-happy Sumeet mixer (sorry, it seems I have been married for too long now :-)) spool-up. It just needs a different way to be ridden, that is all.

      I had the same issues when moving from my Pulsar 150 Classic to the CBR. A slightly higher gear + slightly lower revs = huge complaints from down below So, against my usual style of using the wide torque bands of the Pulsar, I changed to quick revving and quick shifting.

      I really don't like this way of riding a bike but then have to bear it till the T Bonn or N 650 or Suz V STrom 650 come in One cannot have everything and still expect to pay less than 2 lacs, right?

      @ aargee. Please do put a link to post #7500 in your signature; it will avoid a lot of exasperation
      Last edited by icemang; 07-23-2012, 06:47 PM.

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      • i am back on the forum after a long time as i had exams then went to my home town and other places on personal tasks and my modem went kaput.

        spent the last 3 days catching up to the forum after an absence of 2.5 months

        so the bike has done about 4500 on oddo
        damn rock solid took it to bilaspur (CG) 4-5 time the 120 km nh from raipur to bilaspur is the worst nh ever seen by me and the winged angel took it like a breeze (which was a task on my 220 and the rtr180 left sore back and hands)

        the upper filament of the headlight went kaput before the first servicing so had to replace it

        but the price made me go
        its too much for a parts that is mostly replaced or easily damaged

        the grip of the contigo gave me a scare at initial 2k kms but have got used to it now but hydroplaning is a common issue

        abs is a real lifesaver and definitely worth the premium (near shaves on nh between raipur and bilaspur , once also had my sister on board with me so the money was more than well spent for me )

        went to raigarh for my friends elder sister's marriage
        the bike performed very well except in the rain on the twisties gave me a scare twice
        took the state highways easily


        bride and groom on my angel



        i am also facing a bit of vibes and palms going numb problem will get the shims checked during next servicing


        which are better psd or dunlop ?
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        Control your fear and there is nothing you cannot control.

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        • Originally posted by icemang View Post
          The problem is not with the bike but with the riding style.

          This bike hates to be kept at lower revs in higher gears
          Absolutely RIGHT!!!

          Originally posted by icemang View Post
          @ aargee. Please do put a link to post #7500 in your signature; it will avoid a lot of exasperation
          Yea, I know there're quite a few members telling me the same, but somehow, I prefer the current signature than URL's
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          Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
          ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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          • Originally posted by aargee View Post
            If its 1st gear fine, 2nd gear, sorry can't test & confirm now


            Sry, I can't understand the issue completely...but the point is...
            - if its a jerk, then the issue is with releasing the clutch
            - even if its after releasing the clutch fully & then there's a jerk, then either the RPM is too low & throttle is opened abrupt OR there's really an issue with clutch

            Best option for you to is to choose the same road, but a different CBR & try it out with a friend. If the issue doesn't happen to you, then its the issue with your CBR.
            Originally posted by Binoy View Post
            Usually the bike has lil more of torque in the low RPM range of second gear unlike 3,4,5 and 6. From 3rd gear onward you need to down-shift below 4K RPM else the engine starts to lug. But in 2nd gear it has lil more torque(around 3-3.5K RPM range) to have the bike moving. I don't know what exactly will be the RPM range in 2nd gear when the speed is 20kmph. I usually up-shifts at 5-5.5K RPM and downshifts ~4K RPM in every gear. Try riding by this procedure and tell us how you feel.

            P.S: This bike is happy when you up-shifts after 5K RPM and downshifts at 4K RPM. Don't lug your engine.
            Originally posted by icemang View Post
            The problem is not with the bike but with the riding style.

            This bike hates to be kept at lower revs in higher gears. Period. Either blame it on the short stroke motor and the low mass flywheel or rejoice at the rev-happy Sumeet mixer (sorry, it seems I have been married for too long now :-)) spool-up. It just needs a different way to be ridden, that is all.

            I had the same issues when moving from my Pulsar 150 Classic to the CBR. A slightly higher gear + slightly lower revs = huge complaints from down below So, against my usual style of using the wide torque bands of the Pulsar, I changed to quick revving and quick shifting.

            I really don't like this way of riding a bike but then have to bear it till the T Bonn or N 650 or Suz V STrom 650 come in One cannot have everything and still expect to pay less than 2 lacs, right?

            @ aargee. Please do put a link to post #7500 in your signature; it will avoid a lot of exasperation
            Thanks a lot for your valuable inputs

            So my query is, whenever you come across a speedbreaker, rpm will come down to around 2k rpm usually.. In all such speedbreakers, I am supposed to come down to 1st gear only instead of 2nd? around 2.5k rpm, the speed will be around 10kmph, which revs up of in 1st gear and lugs a bit in 2nd gear.. since I go in muddy roads, I use half clutch and because of using half clutch, the rpm comes down to around 2-2.5k rpm usually.. I don't lug the engine once after 3rd gear.. I face this dilemma only in 2nd gear..

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            • Originally posted by yashwanthms View Post
              Thanks a lot for your valuable inputs

              So my query is, whenever you come across a speedbreaker, rpm will come down to around 2k rpm usually.. In all such speedbreakers, I am supposed to come down to 1st gear only instead of 2nd? around 2.5k rpm, the speed will be around 10kmph, which revs up of in 1st gear and lugs a bit in 2nd gear.. since I go in muddy roads, I use half clutch and because of using half clutch, the rpm comes down to around 2-2.5k rpm usually.. I don't lug the engine once after 3rd gear.. I face this dilemma only in 2nd gear..
              If the bike comes down on the RPM range downshift gears which is the basic principle. If you don't you can't feel the torque when you try to accelerate in higher gear in lower RPM. I basically come down to 1st gear when met with a speedbreaker. Had seen some people come to 2nd and take a slight jump and go(and that depends on the size of the speedbreaker).

              P.S: Never mind if you are confused so much. As @icemang pointed out we all have faced these issues in the initial stages when transforming from a long stroke to a short stroke. You will gradually get with that.

              Ride Safe...
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              • Originally posted by yashwanthms View Post
                In muddy roads, when I am bound to go slow, should I switch to 1st gear instead? I usually go in 2nd gear with half clutch and then releasing it. Am I doing wrong? I can't go beyond 20kmph in such roads.. So was going in 2nd gear..
                I know what you are referring to. i can pull from 12kmph in second gear anyday and everyday but i prefer to engage 2nd gear post 20 something kmph. And unless ur muddy road is uneven and full of potholes then there is no need to switch to first. Use first gear only if its a stop-go stop-go movement. Everytime i try half-clutch in second gear i too hear the engine knock so ive given that habit up. I only half-clutch in first these days so its easier to Roll on and Roll of the throttle


                Originally posted by Binoy View Post
                From 3rd gear onward you need to down-shift below 4K RPM else the engine starts to lug. .
                I think You meant to say Above 4k Rpm.


                Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                This is acceptable!!! But below one is a real scary figure!!!!


                250cc engine at a speed of 80-85kmph gives 40+ then all 150cc should die instantly!!! MY R15 gives this figures in these range!!!

                Still can belive it's a true one!!!
                It isnt about CC here. There is a reason why the 250R was limited to only 25/26bhp in the first place. Its meant for touring and when on the highways if you maintain a stable 6-8k rpm on top gear you are bound to get 38+ on ideal road conditions and depending on how much control you have on ur wrists and depending on ur riding style. I believe aargee and Binoy(?) did a trip and the bike returned about 43(?)+ kmpl on average
                Last edited by Nithesh; 07-23-2012, 09:25 PM.
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                • yashwanthms - Do this & let me know if you still experience knock/jerk

                  Switch to 2nd gear when your RPM is at 4.5-5K RPM
                  Switch to 3rd gear when your RPM is between 4.5K-5K RPM
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                  Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                  ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                  • Originally posted by ash-i View Post

                    the upper filament of the headlight went kaput before the first servicing so had to replace it

                    but the price made me go
                    its too much for a parts that is mostly replaced or easily damaged
                    How much did it cost you??

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                    • Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

                      I think You meant to say Above 4k Rpm.
                      Sorry my bad. I mean around 4K RPM.

                      Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
                      I believe aargee and Binoy(?) did a trip and the bike returned about 43(?)+ kmpl on average
                      Frankly speaking I didn't checked the mileage for the whole ride. Perhaps @Aargee have.

                      Atlast the prayers are answered, Thanks @Aargee for adding the FAQ link as your signature.
                      Last edited by Binoy; 07-24-2012, 01:31 AM.
                      sigpic...Ride Long...Ride Safe...

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                      • Originally posted by Binoy View Post
                        Perhaps @Aargee have
                        34.35 Kmpl

                        Originally posted by Binoy View Post
                        Atlast the prayers are answered, Thanks @Aargee for adding the FAQ link as your signature.
                        Lol

                        BTW, Sry Nitesh, didn't see your question
                        Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                        Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                        ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                        • Originally posted by aargee View Post
                          34.35 Kmpl
                          Wow that was awesome mileage. So I could have got just above or on par with yours considering I was slow compared to you. LOLzzz...
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                          • Originally posted by Binoy View Post
                            So I could have got just above or on par with yours considering I was slow compared to you. LOLzzz...
                            ROTFL; certainly
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                            Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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                            • Originally posted by Binoy View Post
                              Wow that was awesome mileage. So I could have got just above or on par with yours considering I was slow compared to you. LOLzzz...

                              cbr gives an awsome mileage of 40 plus if ridden sanely over the highway but the ride gets boring for it keeps telling you.. there is lot more inside...

                              just for the heck of it did try with a calm hand and it went 40+
                              "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

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                              • Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
                                just for the heck of it did try with a calm hand and it went 40+
                                We (Sayhi2sai) recorded 46.09 Kmpl; we measured it over a distance of 350+ Km on highway using full tank method. This is also put up in the FAQ's
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                                Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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