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  • Stupid bajaj servicemen! All they did a few days back during the service was water wash, oil change and put some old oil on the chain! The nincompoops can easily ruin the bike of anyone who doesn't know his vehicle too much in detail! I had to come back home and begin my own service the next day! The plugs were freaking dirty and the gap >1mm, cleaned and adjusted that. The chain sound, lubed it. AFR setting messed up, took a long time to adjust that! I'm yet to find the time to remove the tank and clean the air filter. That's it. Now that the free services are done, my bike will not see the servicemen's faces again!
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    • Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
      Stupid bajaj servicemen! All they did a few days back during the service was water wash, oil change and put some old oil on the chain! The nincompoops can easily ruin the bike of anyone who doesn't know his vehicle too much in detail! I had to come back home and begin my own service the next day! The plugs were freaking dirty and the gap >1mm, cleaned and adjusted that. The chain sound, lubed it. AFR setting messed up, took a long time to adjust that! I'm yet to find the time to remove the tank and clean the air filter. That's it. Now that the free services are done, my bike will not see the servicemen's faces again!
      The birth of a grease monkey..!! Congrats mate..!!! Doing it yourself is the ultimate satisfaction. Been doing that for a long tim e now and as a result my bike is running great..!!!

      Cheers
      Ride Safe
      Krishna
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      ulsar 220F
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      • Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
        Stupid bajaj servicemen! All they did a few days back during the service was water wash, oil change and put some old oil on the chain! The nincompoops can easily ruin the bike of anyone who doesn't know his vehicle too much in detail! I had to come back home and begin my own service the next day! The plugs were freaking dirty and the gap >1mm, cleaned and adjusted that. The chain sound, lubed it. AFR setting messed up, took a long time to adjust that! I'm yet to find the time to remove the tank and clean the air filter. That's it. Now that the free services are done, my bike will not see the servicemen's faces again!

        My first free service was the first and last for me, i rather take my chances with my local mechanic, stand and see it being actually serviced rather then leave it at the hands of the SVC guys to screw things up

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        • Originally posted by ajayfreezer View Post
          bro , can you post any pic of your changed stopper and handlebar
          Originally posted by mayank.travadi View Post
          i went to the SVC and was quoted the same...~1000bucks..change of handle bar and welding of new stopper

          now what part of stopper u are talking?
          one is a small cylindrical piece fixed on the chassis..the other are 2 parts one on left and one on right which hit the cylindrical piece and stop the handle bar to move further...

          my handle bar is a bit bent too and well the manage said u can surely do all thee works but if u dont find handling problems u can surely ride normally..the bike is well built and strong and nothing will happen if u crash again...

          how were the engine vibes fixed?
          the only way i know is the vibes reduce if AFR mixture is rich and increase when the mixture is lean

          can u quote a detailed bill here...

          PS: cant the handle bar be straightened?probably by removing all switches and stuff and straitening it... no other option other than replacing?
          Hi friends,

          I was satisfied by the work this time. They did a paid service, though I did not ask them to. The bike was very clean, not like the free services. But I chose not be angry because they took me seriously this time

          Here is a detailed account of the repairs:
          Today, I thoroughly inspected the repairs done. Looks like they welded a tiny piece on the edge of the right stopper. I could not make out if the middle stopper was taken off and re-welded.
          Frankly, all the three stoppers are originally built and welded very strong. Bending under impact is most unlikely. Could be a manufacturing defect that I did not notice or did not give much importance. Can't be sure of it though. To be sure of the manufacturing defect, we would have to check other NSs.

          They re-fixed the rubber bushes and tweaked the carb. Made the AFR a little rich. No vibes.

          They changed the right handle holder and not the bar because the bar was ok and the handle holder was cracked at the base. I am not sure if the bar can be straightened as it is short in length. And if its aluminum or an alloy, straightening it would be difficult. You could try to find out.

          Bill details:

          Welding and laithe Rs 30
          Paid Service Rs 275
          Labour Rs 200
          Handle holder Rs 499

          Plus tax

          Here are the after repair pics:

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          From this experience, I understood that svc can do a good job only if they get some money out of it. That is absolutely not fair. A few of my friends also said the same thing. The service people give preference to paid service. Free services are at the bottom of their chart.
          Last edited by danny king; 03-03-2013, 06:34 PM.
          Your bike is a part of you....

          Since Nov 2012: Pulsar 200NS
          Jan 2009 to Nov 2012: Yamaha FZ18

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          • handle holder? do u mean the black part of the clip on which attaches near the console?? so the silver bar of the handle is the same and not changed for you?? 499 seems steep for just the handle holder...i head the whole handle costs 400+tax and which rubber bushes? the ones one the tank(rubber gromets) nice to knw svc did the work good for you
            Pulsar 200NS parts list
            https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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            • Originally posted by mayank.travadi View Post
              handle holder? do u mean the black part of the clip on which attaches near the console?? so the silver bar of the handle is the same and not changed for you?? 499 seems steep for just the handle holder...i head the whole handle costs 400+tax and which rubber bushes? the ones one the tank(rubber gromets) nice to knw svc did the work good for you
              Yes, the handle holder is the part that is fixed near to the console. The handle bar (silver bar) was not changed.
              By rubber bushes, I meant grommets.

              I had to change the right mirror because it was shattered by the fall two weeks ago. Even the mirror cost me Rs 210.

              I think everything for the NS comes with a heavy price tag.
              Your bike is a part of you....

              Since Nov 2012: Pulsar 200NS
              Jan 2009 to Nov 2012: Yamaha FZ18

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              • Originally posted by danny king View Post
                Yes, the handle holder is the part that is fixed near to the console. The handle bar (silver bar) was not changed. By rubber bushes, I meant grommets. I think everything for the NS comes with a heavy price tag.
                on the contray i think that NS parts are cheap check my signature and compare with honda. my handle bar is bent i suppose not holder will check in next service. hope thats cheaper. and can we install additional grommets in addition to the present one?
                Pulsar 200NS parts list
                https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                • Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
                  Stupid bajaj servicemen! All they did a few days back during the service was water wash, oil change and put some old oil on the chain! The nincompoops can easily ruin the bike of anyone who doesn't know his vehicle too much in detail! I had to come back home and begin my own service the next day! The plugs were freaking dirty and the gap >1mm, cleaned and adjusted that. The chain sound, lubed it. AFR setting messed up, took a long time to adjust that! I'm yet to find the time to remove the tank and clean the air filter. That's it. Now that the free services are done, my bike will not see the servicemen's faces again!
                  at 2nd service they did the same for me, water wash, oil change & chain lubing ofc, There is a room where customers can sit & see their bike get serviced. So the mechanic knew I was watching him. He did open the tank etc.. clean air filter too.. but only with a blower ? I thought air filters are supposed to be cleaned with kerosine & then soaked in engine oil as a Pulsar DIY video shows on Youtube. Another thing the serviceman did is that he redlined the bike at it's first start after pouring Motul oil. Awesome! Also absolutely no work on Spark plugs. I read in the manual that many components of the bike need to be checked, cleaned & replaced if necessary.. but most of them aren't checked at all.

                  Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                  The birth of a grease monkey..!! Congrats mate..!!! Doing it yourself is the ultimate satisfaction. Been doing that for a long tim e now and as a result my bike is running great..!!!

                  Cheers
                  Ride Safe
                  Krishna
                  Indeed.. DIY is the best way if one knows what he's doing. but the inexperienced just gotta rely on others .. like I don't even know what happens if spark plugs are too dirty etc etc.

                  Originally posted by absarkhan View Post
                  My first free service was the first and last for me, i rather take my chances with my local mechanic, stand and see it being actually serviced rather then leave it at the hands of the SVC guys to screw things up
                  hmm.. interesting. so you've completely void your warranty by not vising the Bajaj SVC anymore haven't you. Actually my Jijaji also told me avoid Bajaj servicemen after using up my free service coupons. He said Local mechanics do a better job than Bajaj ones who are always in hurry. (he's been riding a P150 for past 6 years)

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                  • Originally posted by broken87 View Post
                    at 2nd service they did the same for me, water wash, oil change & chain lubing ofc, There is a room where customers can sit & see their bike get serviced. So the mechanic knew I was watching him. He did open the tank etc.. clean air filter too.. but only with a blower ? I thought air filters are supposed to be cleaned with kerosine & then soaked in engine oil as a Pulsar DIY video shows on Youtube. Another thing the serviceman did is that he redlined the bike at it's first start after pouring Motul oil. Awesome! Also absolutely no work on Spark plugs. I read in the manual that many components of the bike need to be checked, cleaned & replaced if necessary.. but most of them aren't checked at all.


                    Indeed.. DIY is the best way if one knows what he's doing. but the inexperienced just gotta rely on others .. like I don't even know what happens if spark plugs are too dirty etc etc.


                    hmm.. interesting. so you've completely void your warranty by not vising the Bajaj SVC anymore haven't you. Actually my Jijaji also told me avoid Bajaj servicemen after using up my free service coupons. He said Local mechanics do a better job than Bajaj ones who are always in hurry. (he's been riding a P150 for past 6 years)
                    bro, we have paper based air filter, it doesn't need cleaning even, it needs to be changed every 10000 km, and it better to just clean using blower once in a while. And no. of times i have opened, it doesn't get really dirty, i have done 7000 km and its very clean and am sure it will last more than 10k km, though willl change it in 10k...

                    Anyway a thing i noticed, in first service i used motul 3100, then in second service with motul 5100 with 200 ml of 7100. I didnt find any good in those. Gear shifts were hard sometimes. And after completing 2500 km from second service, felt harder gear shifts, so changed oil outside to bajaj dts-i (lack of money to buy quality oil and waititng for 9500km to try 7100), I find my gears a lot smoother and it bike revs more.. So bajaj is not fully crap...let see how long it lasts

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                    • Originally posted by broken87 View Post
                      at 2nd service they did the same for me, water wash, oil change & chain lubing ofc, There is a room where customers can sit & see their bike get serviced. So the mechanic knew I was watching him. He did open the tank etc.. clean air filter too.. but only with a blower ? I thought air filters are supposed to be cleaned with kerosine & then soaked in engine oil as a Pulsar DIY video shows on Youtube. Another thing the serviceman did is that he redlined the bike at it's first start after pouring Motul oil. Awesome! Also absolutely no work on Spark plugs. I read in the manual that many components of the bike need to be checked, cleaned & replaced if necessary.. but most of them aren't checked at all.


                      Indeed.. DIY is the best way if one knows what he's doing. but the inexperienced just gotta rely on others .. like I don't even know what happens if spark plugs are too dirty etc etc.


                      hmm.. interesting. so you've completely void your warranty by not vising the Bajaj SVC anymore haven't you. Actually my Jijaji also told me avoid Bajaj servicemen after using up my free service coupons. He said Local mechanics do a better job than Bajaj ones who are always in hurry. (he's been riding a P150 for past 6 years)
                      From what i know the 200ns has a paper element air filter , for which no liquids such as kerosene or diesel must be used to clean it, blower is the tool used to clean it. So nothing wrong being done there.

                      And about the small things in the manual, nobody will check those, especially in SVC, where they have to get to the next bike in minimum amount of time possible, so they are always in a hurry, truth be told in a properly ridden bike most of the points to be checked need not be checked , but that's not a valid excuse. Then the redlining thingy, that's a common problem with service personnel, no idea why they do it, i hate it when they used to do it on my ride.

                      Well, experience comes from taking risk and trying out, just search google and youtube, you'll be amazed by the detailed steps and pics and even forums dedicated for the smallest of works. use the knowledge you get to the maximum potential.


                      Cheers
                      Ride Safe
                      Krishna
                      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                      Run-in Procedure | Power Loss Solutions | Riding Gears 101 | Biking Brotherhood

                      P
                      ulsar 220F
                      |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                      • Originally posted by broken87 View Post
                        at 2nd service they did the same for me, water wash, oil change & chain lubing ofc, There is a room where customers can sit & see their bike get serviced. So the mechanic knew I was watching him. He did open the tank etc.. clean air filter too.. but only with a blower ? I thought air filters are supposed to be cleaned with kerosine & then soaked in engine oil as a Pulsar DIY video shows on Youtube. Another thing the serviceman did is that he redlined the bike at it's first start after pouring Motul oil. Awesome! Also absolutely no work on Spark plugs. I read in the manual that many components of the bike need to be checked, cleaned & replaced if necessary.. but most of them aren't checked at all.
                        Your jijaji using a pulsar for 6 years omg! JK

                        Yes, there's a long list at the back of the service coupon but the servicemen are also allotted 15 minutes per bike AFAIK. But I went to the svc after their lunch break. There were no ktm or bajaj bikes at the svc so there was all the time in the world. Yet, the mechanic was in a big hurry to finish my bike's service.

                        Originally posted by smrutisourav View Post
                        Anyway a thing i noticed, in first service i used motul 3100, then in second service with motul 5100 with 200 ml of 7100. I didnt find any good in those. Gear shifts were hard sometimes. And after completing 2500 km from second service, felt harder gear shifts, so changed oil outside to bajaj dts-i (lack of money to buy quality oil and waititng for 9500km to try 7100), I find my gears a lot smoother and it bike revs more.. So bajaj is not fully crap...let see how long it lasts
                        I too didn't notice any HUGE change from 5100 to 300V. Of course, the gears are smooth as usual and surprisingly, they get more smoother after the engine's attained a good temperature. Any idea why?
                        I still have the sporty handlebar vibrations (which I love). I expected them to go away after pouring 300V. The pillion sometimes complains of fine vibes at ~4500 rpm.
                        Last edited by Aditya N Bharadwaj; 03-03-2013, 09:42 PM.
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                        • 200NS or not :/

                          Hi All,

                          First post, a bit long.

                          It took a long time coming, been here silently since past 4 months or so.

                          It all started in October I guess. I had no plans for buying a bike, but certainly a thought from nowhere came-why not buy a bike. My benchmark was simple, I wanted nothing less than a 200cc displacement bike. Since I was not fully informed of the current biking seen, I was not aware of recent and hot launches. So my brother told me that for 200 cc, there is Duke and NS and CBR (CBR out of question for being too pricey).


                          No dealers for Duke here in Jalandhar, so went to test ride 200Ns only.

                          First impression from photos was that it is similar-ish to 135 ls. But when I saw it, it was a beast :O

                          Did a quick test ride of 200m or so. It was quite flickable, but strangely I said first thing after getting down was-It vibrates like hell. (At that point I had not read a single review about this bike, so had no clue that it was common). Inquired about the price.

                          Parents agreed only on condition that I would buy it on cash i.e. no loans.

                          I was happy and since then, I have been waiting for this moment when I am ready to buy it. In the meantime I hoped that Bajaj would work on the small niggles and vibrations etc, but to utter disappointment they have not.


                          Now that I have capital in my hand, I am scared to go for it because from inside I feel I might be gambling with my money (no offence intended). The other day a new yellow NS went past my home and it was sounding like a khatara. Believe me, I was more disheartened than its owner might have been.

                          Now I am thinking of Duke 200, but then again, 1.5 lac is too much and it will be a longer wait too and impractical with no ASC in the city. Totally confused
                          Any advice would be appreciated.



                          P.S-I drive an activa and do commute in city (cannot go on tours on activa ). 1 day ride is almost 15 Kms.

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                          • Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
                            Your jijaji using a pulsar for 6 years omg! JK

                            Yes, there's a long list at the back of the service coupon but the servicemen are also allotted 15 minutes per bike AFAIK. But I went to the svc after their lunch break. There were no ktm or bajaj bikes at the svc so there was all the time in the world. Yet, the mechanic was in a big hurry to finish my bike's service.


                            I too didn't notice any HUGE change from 5100 to 300V. Of course, the gears are smooth as usual and surprisingly, they get more smoother after the engine's attained a good temperature. Any idea why?
                            I still have the sporty handlebar vibrations (which I love). I expected them to go away after pouring 300V. The pillion sometimes complains of fine vibes at ~4500 rpm.
                            You won't find difference in 5100 & 300v in the normal riding conditions. Both feel same and the idea of the fs seems pointless. But above 6k action is where it really shows it's true colors. Rip a bike with 5100 in it with constant high rpm abuse and shifting ...you will start to teel the roughness in that range with a ss oil. Nothing wrong on it it is supposed to happen in such extreme situations..but at the same time the 300v feels absolutely at home in these situations. Calm and composed and the rife is very smooth and much more silent than with 5100 and it lasts longer too.

                            And coming to warm engine part when the engine is cold it's well below it's ideal working temperature, both the engine and the oil,so the flow of oil will be lesser and so lesser lubrication.once the engine and oil is warn in operating temporature,the oil starts to flow how it should flow and so it is much more smoother than when you roee the first 3-4kms of the day.

                            This is the same reason why it is said to idle the rde for 30 sec upon first start and to rie the dirst few kms sanely.

                            Cheers
                            Ride safe
                            Krishna
                            --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                            Run-in Procedure | Power Loss Solutions | Riding Gears 101 | Biking Brotherhood

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                            ulsar 220F
                            |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                            • I see, didn't know about the paper based air filter. I also plan to maintain my bike & "do it myself" xBhp & internet helps. thanks!

                              Originally posted by smrutisourav View Post
                              Anyway a thing i noticed, in first service i used motul 3100, then in second service with motul 5100 with 200 ml of 7100. I didnt find any good in those. Gear shifts were hard sometimes. And after completing 2500 km from second service, felt harder gear shifts, so changed oil outside to bajaj dts-i (lack of money to buy quality oil and waititng for 9500km to try 7100), I find my gears a lot smoother and it bike revs more.. So bajaj is not fully crap...let see how long it lasts
                              I'm running on 5100 (got 2 bottles of it) & thankfully my gears feel perfect. However, revving upto 9k or redlining (which I rarely do) doesn't feel all that quick as it did on Bajaj oil. Pehaps Bajaj oil really is better for NS in some ways but still has many downsides.. the drain interval of 10,000kms is like the biggest joke ever.
                              Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
                              Your jijaji using a pulsar for 6 years omg! JK
                              Yeah, his Pulsar is what I rode first before getting my NS. He helped me learn the basic stuff. Funny part is I couldn't even handle that 6 yr old 150cc bike which surely has lost many of it's horses by now. Still when I rode it for the first time I was like... omg this has so much power.. how do I control it!! Now that I've spent so much time on NS, that great P150 feels rather underwhelming & extremely light to maneuver.
                              Originally posted by Sarcastic View Post
                              Did a quick test ride of 200m or so. It was quite flickable, but strangely I said first thing after getting down was-It vibrates like hell. (At that point I had not read a single review about this bike, so had no clue that it was common). Inquired about the price.

                              A brand new NS doesn't really vibrate in low-mid RPMs. I also test rode a NS once & that particular bike was smooth as butter.

                              Now that I have capital in my hand, I am scared to go for it because from inside I feel I might be gambling with my money (no offence intended). The other day a new yellow NS went past my home and it was sounding like a khatara. Believe me, I was more disheartened than its owner might have been.

                              Is it just that it didn't sound good to your ears or something else didn't feel right about that NS ? I'd say don't judge it on it's exhaust note. I also didn't like the sound of NS at first but now I've grown to love it. It's unique.

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                              Yesterday got a Motul sticker done by local sticker shop as I couldn't find any Motul decals at Motul dealers. though it's copy of the original lulz. May be could've placed it at a better spot... front forks may be.... but that still looks nice to me. Now the rim tapes to be done, any suggestion on what color rim tapes for the Black NS ? white yellow or red ? 2MP camera FTW!
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                              • my bike coolant is leaking please help and engine oil is leaking near the oil filter please help

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