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  • Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
    High end torque helps in touring, when you have to sometimes rev to higher rpms or even redline to quickly attain cruising speeds. It helps in drags too, because the engine will always be in the powerband, even after shifting.

    But it depends on BHp, right?


    Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
    In my opinion, NS deserved good low end torque and not high end torque. It's a bike built for the city. Had this 200cc mill come with a fully faired body, it probably would have been much much better than 220F at the highway. On a windless day, the bike zooms away to a speedo indicated 152 km/h, which translates to 137 km/h without speedo error.
    I didn't ride above 135 KM/hr ! My bike will start wobbling back wheel from 90's itself. there is a small difference between two chain adjusters

    Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
    CBR 150R also behaves *like* NS, bad low end torque AFAIH. Never ridden one though. But again, NS has a whole 50cc advantage.
    Some correction. CBR's torque is very low as per specifications. but we can't feel it like NS when riding( I am using one)
    I wish if I am the only rider in roads !!!!!
    So I can red line my bike all the time


    1992 - 1996 - Hercules Cannon Barrel
    1996 - 2002 - Hero Swing
    1998 - 2004 - Bajaj Caliber (1,21,000 KMs)
    2004 - 2005 - TVS Victor
    2005 - 2011 - Honda Unicorn (80,000 KMs)
    2011 - 2013 - Honda CB Unicorn (32,000 KMs)
    2013 - ???? - Bajaj Pulsar 200NS

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    • Originally posted by broken87 View Post
      Did a quick test ride of 200m or so. It was quite flickable, but strangely I said first thing after getting down was-It vibrates like hell. (At that point I had not read a single review about this bike, so had no clue that it was common). Inquired about the price.

      A brand new NS doesn't really vibrate in low-mid RPMs. I also test rode a NS once & that particular bike was smooth as butter.

      Now that I have capital in my hand, I am scared to go for it because from inside I feel I might be gambling with my money (no offence intended). The other day a new yellow NS went past my home and it was sounding like a khatara. Believe me, I was more disheartened than its owner might have been.

      Is it just that it didn't sound good to your ears or something else didn't feel right about that NS ? I'd say don't judge it on it's exhaust note. I also didn't like the sound of NS at first but now I've grown to love it. It's unique.

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      I am good with every bit of bike. Its just that I don't want to run to service mechanics every week with small niggles in my bike .

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      • Originally posted by jenimu_kanna007 View Post
        my bike coolant is leaking please help and engine oil is leaking near the oil filter please help
        Get the bike to the SVC and get it sorted. Coolant leak might be due to over filling of coolant or the pipe connecting from reservoir to engine might be loose.
        Oil leak from oil filter, probably the filter cap is a bit loose, minimal leak from the cap is possible. Just learn to live with it, it's much easier.




        Originally posted by Sarcastic View Post
        I am good with every bit of bike. Its just that I don't want to run to service mechanics every week with small niggles in my bike .
        A few niggles are always possible. Even if the common issues are sorted out by the company , no matter which manufacturer. If by unfortunate chances if you get a bike that is riddled with manufacturing defects then you will have to make visits. Even if it's not, maintaining a bike requires it being serviced at correct time which includes taking it to the SVC.

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        • I am good with every bit of bike. Its just that I don't want to run to service mechanics every week with small niggles in my bike
          I dont want people to bash me for what i say but this is what i feel about bajaj bikes

          They are good..really...they are almost at par with the japs except for a feew niggles...they have years of experience which bajaj doesnt and hence it will take time to get a perfect bike...even the jap bikes have niggles...not as much as ours but hey do...

          Look at how far bajaj has come after 10 years of pulsar...a fantastic bike which is the most VFM bike...very powerfull and handling at par with the best with competition...price wise and engine capacity wise...let me tell you...our bike is better at handling than even bikes priced almost double than what is NS retailed at(smart ones understood...rest...study the market)

          And the niggles and problems with the bike make me feel closer to the bike....i feel its a part of me and i take note of each and every small problem and try to get it rectified...it makes me more knowledgeable about the bike...each day i learn more and understand my bike better...I LOVE MY NS

          I dont think i would have been so much closer to my bike if it was a complete niggle free bike with just fill it shut it forget it...go get it serviced..throw some money for costly yamaha honda spares and ride....
          Pulsar 200NS parts list
          https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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          • Originally posted by Arun Magus View Post
            What's you odo reading?
            What was the need of flushing a new bike?
            And there is still a controversy that new age engines do not need to be flushed.
            Inputs anyone?
            I have read on internet that you need to flush only if you put something like milk or shampoo in your engine. In very rare cases flushing is needed. In fact flushing unnecessarily may create an issue with well sealed joints/gaskets in the engine by removing the sealing deposits.

            Anyway in today's world where engines are manufactured with close tolerances, i don't think they really need flushing throughout there lives if basic maintenance is done well enough.

            Originally posted by tejas1509 View Post
            odo 2500
            he said all NS are flushed on second servicing
            Did flushing for arond 250.

            The person there by mistake polished my bike. i guess teflon coating.. Another Red NS was to be coated.... Anyways the bike is very clean now.. but a bit sticky... will wipe off the wax/coat with dry cloth...
            How is this flushing done exactly?? Did they use a flushing oil (its oil with very less viscosity - almost water like). 250/- seems too much..

            FYI, I tried to find a authentic source saying DuPont manufacturing Teflon coatings for automobile paints. I read so many different things. Some people even say that teflon needs high temperature to bond with the paint, so there is no possibility if having a teflon coat on any car whatsoever and its an utter non-sense. Not only in India, even in USA, it seems this scam is running well. I have even read that DuPont sued many companies for using "Teflon" in there coating as its DuPont's registered trade mark.

            One guy claimed this in some auto forum:
            "Dear friends,
            Let me tell U ,no teflon Coat on automotive paints is effective, teflon is patented with Dupont & it is out from this business 3 years back , I have a email reply from Dupont India.
            Technically speaking to form a proper teflon layer bond on any surface requires a bonding temp. much more than 350deg. C which is impossible to achieve in case of any painted surface, for the simple reason paint would get burnt off , hence even it is original teflon coating from Dupont on a painted surface it is ineffective as it gets peeled off in a short period which then looks ugly , that is the reason they have to quit from this automotive paint protection business , morever to strip down teflon layer completely is a extremely difficult task .
            So guys teflon coating on painted surface is "BIG FAKE""


            Some other say that this so called teflon coating has only very diluted Teflon liquid in it. Rest is all wax. I checked DuPont site and they mention about car waxes containing teflon in it. I Don't think they themselves manufacture it, but some other company manufactures it under license.


            Its upto us to decide. But after reading so many things I will never go for Teflon coating whatsoever. Simple wax coat is good enough.

            Originally posted by danny king View Post
            From this experience, I understood that svc can do a good job only if they get some money out of it. That is absolutely not fair. A few of my friends also said the same thing. The service people give preference to paid service. Free services are at the bottom of their chart.
            Even I have started feeling that the SVCs don't so any serious check ups during free services, but as soon as we go for paid services, they start telling us about solution to every small thing. The other day I saw the SVC supervisor telling a P180 owner that he needs to do body balancing and how its important to get it done ASAP, on a complaint of too many vibs by that guy. I was like, WTF..he never told me one has to do bod balancing to remove vibs when i have been complaining about it since long time. I am having a feeling that we NS owners have to shell out quite a sum once we start for paid services.

            Originally posted by mayank.travadi View Post
            And the niggles and problems with the bike make me feel closer to the bike....i feel its a part of me and i take note of each and every small problem and try to get it rectified...it makes me more knowledgeable about the bike...each day i learn more and understand my bike better...I LOVE MY NS
            +1 Well said...but this is no excuse for Bajaj...


            Well, Guys, I have been facing this rough engine and overheating issue since last 2-3 months. Gave the bike to SVC 2-3 times, but they just dont seem to do anything. I am fed up of it now. I want some feedback from the NS owners regarding few things:

            1. Does your NS's engine start smelling (like a heated metal) in 3-4 kms of riding??
            2. Can you feel heat waves on your legs and thighs after riding 8-10 kms?? And still the fan has not started working??
            3. Ever got the warm sensation at the seat, the black side panels and perimeter frame due to riding in traffic? Engine is super hot and fan is running.
            4. Does the engine remains hot (untouchable by hand and can feel heat just by standing near the bike) after like an hour of parking the bike in the evening after a ride of about 15-16km in normal traffic??
            5. Does your bike's chain makes "trrrrrrrrrrr" noise (like the one which we typically get from bicycle ball bearings) at the front sprocket??
            6. How long should Motul 5100 be used?? its now almost 3300km old now (It was 1 litr 5100 + 200ml 3000mineral oil actually of same grade 15W50)

            I have started feeling that either the engine oil is screwing up or there is some serious problem with cooling system. I had a coolant leakage issue 2-3 months ago, past which i had incidents of vanishing coolant 2-3 times. I don't remember to have so much heated engine prior to that. Or even after sometime later that issue. Something screwd up in between. Can;t figure out what and SVC mechanics are simply apathetic to it. They simply say everything is normal or they can't do anything to reduce engine roughness.
            Two roads diverged in a wood, and I--
            I took the one less traveled by,
            And that has made all the difference...


            --Robert Frost

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            • Originally posted by mayank.travadi View Post
              on the contray i think that NS parts are cheap check my signature and compare with honda. my handle bar is bent i suppose not holder will check in next service. hope thats cheaper. and can we install additional grommets in addition to the present one?
              I haven't given much thought to comparing prices.
              I don't know if additional grommets can be fixed. You would have to check with service.
              Your bike is a part of you....

              Since Nov 2012: Pulsar 200NS
              Jan 2009 to Nov 2012: Yamaha FZ18

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              • Originally posted by nilesh14587 View Post
                I have read on internet that you need to flush only if you put something like milk or shampoo in your engine. In very rare cases flushing is needed. In fact flushing unnecessarily may create an issue with well sealed joints/gaskets in the engine by removing the sealing deposits.
                Milk or shampoo lololol

                Well, Guys, I have been facing this rough engine and overheating issue since last 2-3 months. Gave the bike to SVC 2-3 times, but they just dont seem to do anything. I am fed up of it now. I want some feedback from the NS owners regarding few things:

                1. Does your NS's engine start smelling (like a heated metal) in 3-4 kms of riding??
                No
                2. Can you feel heat waves on your legs and thighs after riding 8-10 kms?? And still the fan has not started working??
                No
                3. Ever got the warm sensation at the seat, the black side panels and perimeter frame due to riding in traffic? Engine is super hot and fan is running.
                Absolutely No

                4. Does the engine remains hot (untouchable by hand and can feel heat just by standing near the bike) after like an hour of parking the bike in the evening after a ride of about 15-16km in normal traffic??
                No, My engine is touchable even after hard ripping.. ofc just for a sec or two, otherwise you get slightly burnt. And it's temperature drops really quick after parking.

                5. Does your bike's chain makes "trrrrrrrrrrr" noise (like the one which we typically get from bicycle ball bearings) at the front sprocket??
                I get a kat kat noise, haven't got it rectified cause I'm tired to see faces of those svc guys.

                6. How long should Motul 5100 be used?? its now almost 3300km old now (It was 1 litr 5100 + 200ml 3000mineral oil actually of same grade 15W50)
                Using same oil and somebody else should tell us about it's drain interval.. but i still don't understand why people "mix" oils. What do experts say about this ?? .. no matter if viscosity is same or not. If I get a bike that's worth 1 lac rupees & I fill petrol several times a month. Then why would I not purchase an extra bottle of same oil which will cost me just Rs 450-500 more. These Motul guys should really come out with 1.2ltr packages for NS.... they said they will.

                I have started feeling that either the engine oil is screwing up or there is some serious problem with cooling system. I had a coolant leakage issue 2-3 months ago, past which i had incidents of vanishing coolant 2-3 times. I don't remember to have so much heated engine prior to that. Or even after sometime later that issue. Something screwd up in between. Can;t figure out what and SVC mechanics are simply apathetic to it. They simply say everything is normal or they can't do anything to reduce engine roughness.
                Take it to another Service center in Pune ?
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                • About Philips Exteme Vision Bulb

                  Hai Friends,

                  Does anyone using Philips Extreme Vision bulb on your NS?
                  As per their words it is +100 bulb
                  I had seen one NS has more lumen s than ours. So I inquired about it. He said he is using Philips EV

                  I had purchased one. but it is not glowing even upto our stock bulb

                  Anyone know, what should be the reason?
                  both are 12v 60/55 watts

                  Should I do any relay works?

                  I am totally noob about it .....
                  I wish if I am the only rider in roads !!!!!
                  So I can red line my bike all the time


                  1992 - 1996 - Hercules Cannon Barrel
                  1996 - 2002 - Hero Swing
                  1998 - 2004 - Bajaj Caliber (1,21,000 KMs)
                  2004 - 2005 - TVS Victor
                  2005 - 2011 - Honda Unicorn (80,000 KMs)
                  2011 - 2013 - Honda CB Unicorn (32,000 KMs)
                  2013 - ???? - Bajaj Pulsar 200NS

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                  • Originally posted by broken87 View Post
                    Using same oil and somebody else should tell us about it's drain interval.. but i still don't understand why people "mix" oils. What do experts say about this ?? .. no matter if viscosity is same or not. If I get a bike that's worth 1 lac rupees & I fill petrol several times a month. Then why would I not purchase an extra bottle of same oil which will cost me just Rs 450-500 more. These Motul guys should really come out with 1.2ltr packages for NS.... they said they will.

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                    Shouldn't be an issue if mixed with different types or brands of oils of same grade. Chemically they are same if the grade is same. Actually if you have to avoid mixing of oil you will have to overhaul the whole engine as even after draining oil from reservoir about 200ml (in case of 200NS) of oil is still there in the engine parts. So you see its absolutely impossible to avoid mixing of oils while changing the oil.
                    Two roads diverged in a wood, and I--
                    I took the one less traveled by,
                    And that has made all the difference...


                    --Robert Frost

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                    • Originally posted by nilesh14587 View Post
                      Shouldn't be an issue if mixed with different types or brands of oils of same grade. Chemically they are same if the grade is same. Actually if you have to avoid mixing of oil you will have to overhaul the whole engine as even after draining oil from reservoir about 200ml (in case of 200NS) of oil is still there in the engine parts. So you see its absolutely impossible to avoid mixing of oils while changing the oil.

                      You mean after every drain there is about 200ml still left? are u sure? i thought it would be somewhere around 50ml or something

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                      • Originally posted by absarkhan View Post
                        You mean after every drain there is about 200ml still left? are u sure? i thought it would be somewhere around 50ml or something
                        The engine oil required when engine is overhauled is 1.4lL. This means that other than the changeable 1.2L, 200ml is inside engine, stuck on to the engine parts. When you only change your engine oil, you are changing only 1.2L which is in the engine oil chamber, the remaining 200ml is on the engine parts. And if you ever open up the engine and overhaul it, you'll require 1.4l. You can refer the owners' manual for the same.


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                        • Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                          You won't find difference in 5100 & 300v in the normal riding conditions. Both feel same and the idea of the fs seems pointless. But above 6k action is where it really shows it's true colors. Rip a bike with 5100 in it with constant high rpm abuse and shifting ...you will start to teel the roughness in that range with a ss oil. Nothing wrong on it it is supposed to happen in such extreme situations..but at the same time the 300v feels absolutely at home in these situations. Calm and composed and the rife is very smooth and much more silent than with 5100 and it lasts longer too.

                          And coming to warm engine part when the engine is cold it's well below it's ideal working temperature, both the engine and the oil,so the flow of oil will be lesser and so lesser lubrication.once the engine and oil is warn in operating temporature,the oil starts to flow how it should flow and so it is much more smoother than when you roee the first 3-4kms of the day.

                          This is the same reason why it is said to idle the rde for 30 sec upon first start and to rie the dirst few kms sanely.

                          Cheers
                          Ride safe
                          Krishna
                          I do idle it for a minute when cold and atleast 10 seconds when warm.
                          This evening, I was stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic. The sewing machine-like sound was clearly audible, even with my helmet on. As I began moving, I gave a twist of the accelerator to move quickly through a gap and the engine went off. I thought, okay this is normal and restarted the engine. I dunno what the fudge happened, the engine was suddenly quieter, maybe too quiet. The irritating sewing machine sound? GONE. After a while I found the road ahead of me beckoning me to redline and I did. The bike surged forward like it usually did but where's the addictive sound above 7k rpm?! It felt like I wasn't riding the same bike again. What might have happened?

                          Originally posted by spknair View Post
                          But it depends on BHp, right?
                          No, bhp is a number which indicates the power output (which is calculated using mathematical formulae which I dunno in detail about ). It suggests the amount of work done. Torque delivery doesn't depend on bhp. Like I said, it depends on the engine design and tuning. For example, classic 500 has some 27 horses to it's name. But it can't accelerate faster than Ninja 250 (33 bhp), whose displacement is HALF that of classic 500. But it can't match 500's torque delivery at lower rpms.

                          I didn't ride above 135 KM/hr ! My bike will start wobbling back wheel from 90's itself. there is a small difference between two chain adjusters
                          It shouldn't wobble. Yes, it's a tad bit unsettled at those speeds but wobbling? NO NO.

                          Some correction. CBR's torque is very low as per specifications. but we can't feel it like NS when riding( I am using one)
                          I stand corrected. I said 'as far as I've heard'. I've never ridden a cbr 150r.
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                          Originally posted by nilesh14587 View Post
                          Well, Guys, I have been facing this rough engine and overheating issue since last 2-3 months. Gave the bike to SVC 2-3 times, but they just dont seem to do anything. I am fed up of it now. I want some feedback from the NS owners regarding few things:

                          1. Does your NS's engine start smelling (like a heated metal) in 3-4 kms of riding??
                          No
                          2. Can you feel heat waves on your legs and thighs after riding 8-10 kms?? And still the fan has not started working??
                          I do face heat waves WHILE riding, that too on the left thigh. The fan's the reason.
                          3. Ever got the warm sensation at the seat, the black side panels and perimeter frame due to riding in traffic? Engine is super hot and fan is running.
                          No heat at the seat, panels or frame. The engine only.
                          4. Does the engine remains hot (untouchable by hand and can feel heat just by standing near the bike) after like an hour of parking the bike in the evening after a ride of about 15-16km in normal traffic??
                          My engine heats up a fair bit after riding for about 30 kms. And if parked after that, it starts cooling down well enough. I can put my whole palm on either side of the engine after an hour.
                          5. Does your bike's chain makes "trrrrrrrrrrr" noise (like the one which we typically get from bicycle ball bearings) at the front sprocket?
                          Used to have that. That sound arises if the chain doesn't have an optimum amount of slackness. Lube it every 500 kms.
                          6. How long should Motul 5100 be used?? its now almost 3300km old now (It was 1 litr 5100 + 200ml 3000mineral oil actually of same grade 15W50)
                          Time for an oil change bro!
                          I have started feeling that either the engine oil is screwing up or there is some serious problem with cooling system. I had a coolant leakage issue 2-3 months ago, past which i had incidents of vanishing coolant 2-3 times. I don't remember to have so much heated engine prior to that. Or even after sometime later that issue. Something screwd up in between. Can;t figure out what and SVC mechanics are simply apathetic to it. They simply say everything is normal or they can't do anything to reduce engine roughness.
                          I have no idea what a rough engine feels like. But coolant leak from the coolant overflow pipe occurs if you shut off the engine when the radiator fan is still on. That's because at that point the coolant has expanded due to the heat and occupies more volume. It's simply discarded by the cooling system. That's how it works. Make sure the radiator fan isn't on before turning your bike off. And for your heating problems, check if the coolant level is optimum.
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                          • Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
                            I do idle it for a minute when cold and atleast 10 seconds when warm.
                            This evening, I was stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic. The sewing machine-like sound was clearly audible, even with my helmet on. As I began moving, I gave a twist of the accelerator to move quickly through a gap and the engine went off. I thought, okay this is normal and restarted the engine. I dunno what the fudge happened, the engine was suddenly quieter, maybe too quiet. The irritating sewing machine sound? GONE. After a while I found the road ahead of me beckoning me to redline and I did. The bike surged forward like it usually did but where's the addictive sound above 7k rpm?! It felt like I wasn't riding the same bike again. What might have happened?


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                            Sewing machine sound means tappets are making sound. But then what followed afterwards is indeed strange..well on the bright side you have an ultra quite engine now

                            Cheers
                            Ride safe
                            Krishna
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                            • Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
                              I do idle it for a minute when cold and atleast 10 seconds when warm.
                              This evening, I was stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic. The sewing machine-like sound was clearly audible, even with my helmet on. As I began moving, I gave a twist of the accelerator to move quickly through a gap and the engine went off. I thought, okay this is normal and restarted the engine. I dunno what the fudge happened, the engine was suddenly quieter, maybe too quiet. The irritating sewing machine sound? GONE. After a while I found the road ahead of me beckoning me to redline and I did. The bike surged forward like it usually did but where's the addictive sound above 7k rpm?! It felt like I wasn't riding the same bike again. What might have happened?
                              That's for sure tappets bro.. Get it adjusted ASAP...
                              Symptoms:
                              1. Starting prob ( may be thats why it got switched off)
                              2. Low pick up ( that's the reason why you don't feel the same way as it was before )
                              3. Sewing machine sound (75% tappets)

                              Cheers
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                              • Today I ripped like crazy after midnight. I hadn't ridden too fast since 2nd service.. first experience of truly redlining on Motul 5100.. Clearly the bike revs upto 9k-10k slower than it did on Bajaj oil. You know you can always tell when your NS is touching 6k-7k rpm by the sound of it. Riding above that makes it difficult to tell what rpm you're currently on cause the bike just screams beautifully.. or if you're at the rev limiter which is at 10500 rpm ? (correct or is it 11500? ) and I find it difficult to even get a quick look at the speedo cause i cannot take my eyes off the road. because the upper end feels so overwhelming. But ofc that's because I'm not too used to it & abit scared too. Just fun time.
                                btw, I also started getting low audible tappet noise after ripping.

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