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**gmagesh14** · 03-05-2012, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by Vikshe View Post

Thanks , stock rectifier is half wave rectifier with regulated output , i guess its filtered and regulated so as to provide safe ps to digi consol , another question arises , if people here are rewinding the alternator to DC o/p , why we require RR again , can't we just change to Full wave RR and get full DC.

Alternator will produce only ac current/voltage...
Stock rectifier doesnt provide supply to console.,it's directly feed from the battery,,Only the headlight is feed from the RR..
Since in full DC the headlight is directly connected to battery, using a higher wattage bulb (55/60w bulb or more) at lower rpms will drain the battery quickly,to compensate this we need to increase the stator winding and change the stock RR to high capacity Full wave RR to keep the battery charged ,,,

**punarvasu** · 03-05-2012, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by Vikshe View Post

Though we have loads of forums and discussions on oils , we don't have any reliable recommends for oils .
All oils perform differntly if tested back to back , this can be noted by the rider who is having his pulse interfaced with htat of a bike.

Many bikers are refusing to use oil which has no JASO MA2 or 3 specifications. Some poor bikers like me who has never done any research in this subject are using SS oil.
I am using Castrol 15W-40 SS oil from the very beginning but this oil is causing allergic itching to many others. So, find out a suitable oil yourself and replace the oil filter each time you replace the oil.
Please wait for more authoritative, reliable suggestions from oil experts. I am not an expert.

**gmagesh14** · 03-05-2012, 09:11 PM

My 1st Long trip on GS:: A total of 1118kms

Chennai - Salem (~397kms) and Salem - Coimbatore (~155kms) on Day 1

Coimbatore - Salem and Salem - Chennai on Day 2

Started from Chennai on 02-03-12 at 4AM and reached Salem by 10:30AM, finished my days work and started to Coimbatore (With a Pillion and ride was shared b/w two) at 8PM and reached by 11PM. ..
ON day 2 started from Coimbatore by 10.30AM and reached Salem at 12PM..
After completing my work, started to home by 6PM and reached Chennai at 11:45PM.. With only one halt at Villupuram for dinner..

On the return leg ,rode at full throttle atleast for a minimum of 150kms..

Filled fuel for 1850Rs.(ie.25.6 lts) totally...
For 1350Rs (ie.19.40) it returned 53kmpl..

Top speed reached 127kmph in fully crouched position at 9.2k rpm(approx) ..
At normal conditions it could able to touch 122kmph on a long stretch..

Was little tired on the onward journey but the return journey was fruitful..

I love to ride at night a lot...

**kripscorp** · 03-05-2012, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by punarvasu View Post

If it is bought from the authorized Ape three wheeler dealer, it will be original. That extra wires you mentioned is not for ammeter and ammeter is not used in the new Ape three wheelers.

Hi,
Ape peagieo has an ammeter. Yesterday I enquired with an peagieo mechanic and confirmed that those red wires are for ammeter.
any how i will confirm this by giving connection in my bike... :-)

I have seen many peagieos having ammeter. and in the new ones are not having ammeter. instead, it has a battery light. so i think, this red wire connected to that battery light circuit. But not sure about that..

**gmagesh14** · 03-05-2012, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by punarvasu View Post

I am using Castrol 15W-40 SS oil from the very beginning.

Punarvasu, will I get any advantage of using semi synthetic oil over mineral?

Or may I know why you've opted for 15W-40 SS ?

**kripscorp** · 03-05-2012, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by gmagesh14 View Post

My 1st Long trip on GS:: A total of 1118kms

Chennai - Salem (~397kms) and Salem - Coimbatore (~155kms) on Day 1

Coimbatore - Salem and Salem - Chennai on Day 2

Started from Chennai on 02-03-12 at 4AM and reached Salem by 10:30AM, finished my days work and started to Coimbatore (With a Pillion and ride was shared b/w two) at 8PM and reached by 11PM. ..
ON day 2 started from Coimbatore by 10.30AM and reached Salem at 12PM..
After completing my work, started to home by 6PM and reached Chennai at 11:45PM.. With only one halt at Villupuram for dinner..

On the return leg ,rode at full throttle atleast for a minimum of 150kms..

Filled fuel for 1850Rs.(ie.25.6 lts) totally...
For 1350Rs (ie.19.40) it returned 53kmpl..

Top speed reached 127kmph in fully crouched position at 9.2k rpm(approx) ..
At normal conditions it could able to touch 122kmph on a long stretch..

Was little tired on the onward journey but the return journey was fruitful..

I love to ride at night a lot...

how was the headlight ? is that sufficient ?

**gmagesh14** · 03-05-2012, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by kripscorp View Post

any how i will confirm this by giving connection in my bike... :-

Do the regular connection and use a digital multimeter in Ampere mode (DC) across the two additional wires provided,.

**gmagesh14** · 03-05-2012, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by kripscorp View Post

how was the headlight ? is that sufficient ?

Yeah, sufficient enough

on a two/four laned roads...
But when heavy vehicles coming opposite on a single lane road, it's little weak bcos we'll get blind... This will happen even with 100/90w too..

So IMO it's ideal for night riding..

PS:: Maestro bhai has to reveal his results after his long haul with his projectors and new reflectors MOD...

Listening?

**kripscorp** · 03-05-2012, 10:36 PM

Suggest me if this connection will work ?

Originally posted by punarvasu View Post

If it is bought from the authorized Ape three wheeler dealer, it will be original. That extra wires you mentioned is not for ammeter and ammeter is not used in the new Ape three wheelers.

Hi,
I planned to fit the Ape RR in the following method without taking extra wire from the stator.

Friends, please confirm whether this will work ?

connecting yellow wire from ape rr with red wire from stock rr
connecting black wire from ape rr with black white wire from stock rr
connecting one of the gray wire from ape rr with black wire from stock rr
connecting another gray wire from ape rr with the ground. (since the other end of the stator winding is grounded)
yellow wire from stock rr with the orange wire that comes out after key switch.

suggest your comments...

**punarvasu** · 03-06-2012, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by kripscorp View Post

Hi,
Ape peagieo has an ammeter. Yesterday I enquired with an peagieo mechanic and confirmed that those red wires are for ammeter.
any how i will confirm this by giving connection in my bike... :-)

I have seen many peagieos having ammeter. and in the new ones are not having ammeter. instead, it has a battery light. so i think, this red wire connected to that battery light circuit. But not sure about that..

There was an ammeter in the old model Ape three wheelers but the present model is not using it. Instead of it, there is an LED – an indicator – which glows when the battery is drained or not fully charged and it gets off when the battery is charged. This LED is available in the SCs of Ape. I am not sure whether this can be fitted in our bike.
As far as I know, ammeter cannot be connected to these wires. As you have an ammeter already with you, try to connect it to these wires.
Those using this type of RR are leaving these wires free. Apart from these wires, both the old and new model RRs is the same.

Originally posted by gmagesh14 View Post

Punarvasu, will I get any advantage of using semi synthetic oil over mineral?

Or may I know why you've opted for 15W-40 SS ?

I have used it in my Suzuki Fiero for more than 1,00,000 kms and in my GS from the time of its second servicing.
Started to use it because it offered a longer draining interval of 5,000 kms but replaced in every 3,000 kms in my Fiero and in every 2,500 kms in GS.
SS oils are used for longer drain intervals and for bikes driven at high RPM.
Those who are bothered about the duplicate (Castrol or any other) engine oil please remember this: A major portion of the new oil we get in the cans in various brand names is used oil collected from service centers and workshops marketed after recycling and this recycling is legally allowed.
Some are marketing it as edible oils after purification and recycling.

Originally posted by kripscorp View Post

Hi,
I planned to fit the Ape RR in the following method without taking extra wire from the stator.

Friends, please confirm whether this will work ?

connecting yellow wire from ape rr with red wire from stock rr
connecting black wire from ape rr with black white wire from stock rr
connecting one of the gray wire from ape rr with black wire from stock rr
connecting another gray wire from ape rr with the ground. (since the other end of the stator winding is grounded)
yellow wire from stock rr with the orange wire that comes out after key switch.

suggest your comments...

1. Yellow wire from the Ape RR and the Red wire from the stock RR is +ve terminals of the DC supply to the battery.
2. Both are –ve supplies.
3. Black wire to the stock RR is the AC output of the stator coil. You are connecting it to one of the Gray wires of the Ape RR.
4. To this Gray wire we are usually connecting the other (grounded) end of the coil. Here you are connecting it to ground. I am not sure about the result but it is better you try to understand a little more about this subject.
5. As far as I know, there is no Yellow wire from stock RR. There is a YW (Yellow White) wire from the stock RR which carries regulated AC to the headlight and other bulbs. The Orange wire you mentioned is the continuation of the Red wire from the +ve terminal of the battery after ignition switch. You are going to connect the AC supply from the separate tap of the stock RR to this wire and combining both DC from the battery and AC from the RR. Here too I cannot say what the result will be, especially when this AC is fed to the battery without rectification.
Seems to be a strange plan. After doing all these connections or modifications, what are you expecting from it?
Anyway, I am not trying to discourage you. Please don’t misunderstand me.

**Vikshe** · 03-06-2012, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by punarvasu View Post

Many bikers are refusing to use oil which has no JASO MA2 or 3 specifications. Some poor bikers like me who has never done any research in this subject are using SS oil.
I am using Castrol 15W-40 SS oil from the very beginning but this oil is causing allergic itching to many others. So, find out a suitable oil yourself and replace the oil filter each time you replace the oil.
Please wait for more authoritative, reliable suggestions from oil experts. I am not an expert.

I agree all have there own choices for different machines ,at different locations , todays engines are working on tight tolerences and respond likewise .
SS spares & consumables are forced to be accepted, lessesr alternatives & reponsiblities to SS make us believe in them , as per this forum SS is pouring castrol brand , some SS as mine in panvel , Mumbai have idemitsu oil .
We should stick to best known brand and trusted source ( in our vicinity)with JASO MA2 or 3 specs that are in line with wet clutch assembly.personally i will add oil suppliments if authencity is doubtfull.

**Gagan0123** · 03-06-2012, 11:17 AM

Hi guys,

Here's my first average calculation for the bike which came out to be 43kmpl

MyGS150R

http://goo.gl/oJ3cd

You can see detailed information that I used to calculate on this link.

I've been keeping a daily record of how much I drive and how much petrol the bike has drunk. I hope the avg will improve soon or it will just drain out my bank balance

......

**punarvasu** · 03-06-2012, 11:48 AM

Full DC

I have replaced the headlight bulb with Osram Night Breaker 55/60 watts in the first week itself and have tried the following ways to get brighter light:
1. Rewound the coil with 19 gauge wire and connected one end of it to the stock RR. The result was a slightly better headlight.
2. Changed the RR and connected both ends of the coil to it making the bike full DC.
3. Rewond the coil with 18 gauge wire. I am still using it.

**punarvasu** · 03-06-2012, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Vikshe View Post

I agree all have there own choices for different machines ,at different locations , todays engines are working on tight tolerences and respond likewise .
SS spares & consumables are forced to be accepted, lessesr alternatives & reponsiblities to SS make us believe in them , as per this forum SS is pouring castrol brand , some SS as mine in panvel , Mumbai have idemitsu oil .
We should stick to best known brand and trusted source ( in our vicinity)with JASO MA2 or 3 specs that are in line with wet clutch assembly.personally i will add oil suppliments if authencity is doubtfull.

I am not trying to promote or demote any oil but pointing out the meaningless or baseless claims of some bikers pretending to be oil experts or chemical engineers who do nothing more than spreading what they have heard from some others they cannot question due to their mental slavery.
Idemitsu is supplying 10W-30 mineral oil for Access and Swish scooters and it is not used in GS. The SCs are using Castrol oil because there is a contract between the companies but if you want to fill any other brand, you can bring that oil to the SC and ask them to fill it or can do it yourself.
Spare parts of GS is not available outside because GS is not as popular as many other bikes. Not Suzuki but the greedy duplicate parts makers are to be blamed for it.
I have no right to question your fundamental right to use any oil or fuel additive in your bike, even if it is sulfuric acid. Some are using Acetone as fuel additive while some others use castor oil as oil additive. Who am I to question these great people?

Originally posted by Gagan0123 View Post

Hi guys,

Here's my first average calculation for the bike which came out to be 43kmpl

The main reason for low FE is riding habits such as sudden acceleration and braking, waiting to reach 8000 rpm to shift gear, constant riding at high speeds etc etc.
Limit the rpm to 4500 - 5000 and check the FE again with a measured quantity of fuel in a jar.

**Samshalu** · 03-06-2012, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by 123kish View Post

Kindly go through this !!

Reader's Review: Suzuki lover Ankit Tiwari reviews his Suzuki GS150R | Motoroids

At some points it felt u were againt the bike,but u also gave good points also...if a person thinking of buying this bike may get confused after reading your review,i felt it that way..

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