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  • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
    That is really annoying,and it happened due to the fact that many people who loves GS and targets the 150cc segment did not vote in time due to negligence.
    'twas not an official poll anyways.

    there were some really crap bikes in the list.

    and the Ninja was actually trailing by 4 points about 10 hours before the deadline.

    then it suddenly got a half dozen or so votes which took it to number one.

    The Ninja strikes back.
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    • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
      More than that, you did not mention how you checked the mileage in city riding. If it is R to R method, it is not reliable.
      The Suzuki SVC which maintains my bike has suggested a mileage test called full tank to full tank. !!!

      This is what I had been informed about the way of mileage test.

      1.The bike's tank would be totally filled up till the marker.
      2.The bike would be taken out for a ride on a long open stretch of road for about 25kms.
      3.The bike would be ridden @60kmph and around 4000-4500 rpm for the major part of the ride.
      4.I would be sitting pillion on the Bike.
      5.No modes of riding would be activated during the test.
      6.After the 25kms+25kms=50kms of journey to and from the gas station has been conducted,the bike would be refueled again to make it upto full tank.
      7.The difference fuel that would be required to fill up the tank,is the fuel which the bike consumed over the 50kms stretch.
      8.The above amount would determine the mileage of the Bike.

      My question to Vishnukmd Sir, is this method okay ????

      Originally posted by xionite View Post

      the Ninja was actually trailing by 4 points

      then it suddenly got a half dozen or so votes which took it to number one.
      Hmm,Indians learn the way of elections pretty quickly,
      I call it absurdly democratic !!!!

      Anyway,doesn't matters,even if something radical like the BMW S1000RR have entered the poll,it would not have won,because most people does not know how it feels like to ride one and it is not speculated widely anywhere too.Most urban heroes ride the Ninja 250R and even in some films it had been showcased......so we can understand in what ways our governments are mostly decided

      Interesting thing is GS150R had knocked out one of its squarely targeted formidable "crap" competitor in the poll itself.
      Last edited by MACH50; 02-02-2011, 11:40 AM.
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      • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
        Excuse me. SHIVAGEETHAI? Is it available in english?
        I read it in Tamil ..
        When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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        • Originally posted by bond_007 View Post


          Motivated by Falcon, I complaint in their website and was amazed to receive a call from Suzuki in JUST 20-25 MINS. The person talking to me was Mr. Vikram. He was the first Suzuki guy I met, who was carrying some brains above his head
          He heard my problem patiently and told me that he will talk to the sc for inspection and if they found rusting after cleaning with cloth, then suzuki will REPLACE the tank with new one. After 10 mins, I received a call from sc REQUESTING me to come there for inspection . So, I went today to their sc, the supervisor(same person who was telling that it was normal and giving me lame excuses), took a cloth and rubbed the mouth of tank. He found heavy rust on the cloth and after cleaning also rust was clearly visible. For the first time that beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep out of nowhere accepted the rusting. Took some snaps of it (to mail to Vikramji) and told me that my bike's tank will be replaced and was asking me to leave the bike. So my fellow gspians, just use the suzuki website for complaint. It works.

          The URL of the same is: Suzuki Motorcycle Corporate Office

          I will leave my bike at SC on monday. I will update as my fuel tank gets replaced.

          Thanx Falcon and all fellow gspians.
          xbhp rocks!
          Yesterday, my bike's tank was replaced with the new one. The new tank is rust free.
          I approached the manager over there to check the mileage of bike himself. He co-operated for having a 100ml test and was surprised to see 4.1 km on the odo. He called his most experienced mech and told him to set the bike so as to get atleast 50km/ltr on bike without compromising the power.
          He tuned the setting by using digital rpm meter and then again we had test, this time it gave 4.5 km/100ml(on highway) I was still not convinced, he again tried tuning it and after 10-15mins, he went in the manager's office. He came out of office and just REPLACED MY CARBURETOR with the new bike's carburetor.
          He adjusted the settings (1800-1900 approx RPM on idle) and then I got 6.2 km/100ml on the same way. He told me that my old carburetor was not functioning well and that will be sent to the company. I am experiencing some different power level(on a low side) from then. Anyways, I was satisfied and came back home.
          Today, When I tried to start my bike in the morning, it didn't started. Earlier my bike used to start in one kick. What can be the problem?????

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          • Originally posted by bond_007 View Post
            What can be the problem?????
            Nothing at all. You are lucky. Give a slight acceleration when you start the bike and keep the carburetor settings intact.

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            • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
              My question to Vishnukmd

              Dear Mach50,





              If we fill the tank twice or thrice, the quantity of fuel we fill will not be the same. One of the main reasons is that air also is pumped to the tank together with petrol through the hose. Remember that we are not pouring petrol to a transparent bottle or jar, where we can see and judge the level.

              So, when you refill the gap formed in the tank due to the usage of petrol, you are not filling the actual gap formed by used petrol.

              Usually, the mileage checking is done by the rider alone, without pillion rider. If there is a pillion rider, the mileage will be less.

              Why cannot that sc mechanics check the mileage using a small quantity of petrol in a jar or can?

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              • 2010 model warranty replacement Bill

                Hi guys here i attached the bill copy send my br Abdul Rahman to me....where he ask me too much sound in engine of a new 3500km run 2010 GS 150....I told him to take to SMK porur chennai
                See the list of parts changed ...And he buy this bike ,in his native 500km away from chennai...where he get warranty replacement MR Kalyan SMK PORUR
                The sound he experienced is same to me too while we talk in phone..But I know its SC job to confirm this....
                ABDUL KHADAR
                currently using GS150R
                PULSAR 150 DTSI |CBZ|BAJAJ RTZ 125|RX135G|RX100|KAWASAKI RTZ 100|TVS CHAMP

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                • Originally posted by akfara View Post
                  Hi guys here i attached the bill copy send my br Abdul Rahman to me....where he ask me too much sound in engine of a new 3500km run 2010 GS 150....I told him to take to SMK porur chennai
                  See the list of parts changed ...And he buy this bike ,in his native 500km away from chennai...where he get warranty replacement MR Kalyan SMK PORUR
                  The sound he experienced is same to me too while we talk in phone..But I know its SC job to confirm this....
                  The parts list indicate that,either there was nil or inadequate oil in the engine,or the crank shaft had gone off balance and true centering.....most probably the later.There are others in the forum who know Suzuki engine better ,who can give better opinion.
                  Last edited by psr; 02-02-2011, 04:03 PM.
                  When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                  • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                    Dear Mach50,





                    If we fill the tank twice or thrice, the quantity of fuel we fill will not be the same. One of the main reasons is that air also is pumped to the tank together with petrol through the hose. Remember that we are not pouring petrol to a transparent bottle or jar, where we can see and judge the level.

                    So, when you refill the gap formed in the tank due to the usage of petrol, you are not filling the actual gap formed by used petrol.

                    Usually, the mileage checking is done by the rider alone, without pillion rider. If there is a pillion rider, the mileage will be less.

                    Why cannot that sc mechanics check the mileage using a small quantity of petrol in a jar or can?
                    The SVC mechanics say,that it is their protocol of testing mileage as issued by the company,I do not reserve the knowledge of how true it is,but it is how not only Suzuki but also Yamaha OE SVCs test mileage.

                    However Vishnu thanks for clearing some discrepancies which may hold the key to answer some mileage problems.

                    Hence I come to another question.........if the air also shares space with the Fuel in the hose,then that means the volume indicated by the Fuel Pump gauge indicates the total volume of fuel and air in the hose rather than only fuel.........is this assumption correct ????

                    One thing that I learnt from this observation is to shake the tank vigorously before fueling,because the Fuel Station employee may not have patience to wait during refill.But shaking the tank during refueling seems a good and meticulous practice.
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                    • I showed my gaadi to a couple of local mechs regarding the persitent grinding sound from engine. They said its due to bad engine oil....they advised me to drop motul and go for castrol. The SC on the other hand said it was some tappet noise and asked me to leave the vehicle overnight for cold adjustment. I havent yet. Any thoughts on this, anyone?

                      @ vishnu: I dont understand how air pockets form in petrol or how it would affect filling up. Its not viscous enough. Maybe in the fuel pipe but in the tank?

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                      • mileage

                        guys today i checked my mileage in traditional R to R method i filled 5ltrs of petrol after reserve and today my trip is reading 271 and still counting so my bike is giving me 53+ mileage 60% of journey is on highways and 40% in cities nyway i am happy with my bike
                        I can put any Signatures :P

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                        • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                          The SVC mechanics say,that it is their protocol of testing mileage as issued by the company
                          Mileage testing is for our convenience -for us to know the mileage - not for the sc or company. As far as I know, no automobile company has approved full tank to full tank mileage checking method. If it is true, let them do it in their own method and if you want to know the correct mileage, use the can/jar method.

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                          • Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post
                            vishnu: I dont understand how air pockets form in petrol or how it would affect filling up. Its not viscous enough. Maybe in the fuel pipe but in the tank?

                            Air pockets or gaps are formed in the fuel tank, when we fill fuel. It is not when we fill small quantity, but full or almost full.

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                            • Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post
                              they advised me to drop motul and go for castrol. The SC on the other hand said it was some tappet noise

                              Almost all the oil brands are the same. There may be little difference in the detergents or addictives added. All the other claims are marketing hype.
                              As your bike is new, there is no possibility of increasing of tappet clearance unless you ride it with insufficient oil. More than that GS is provided with automatic tappet clearance adjuster. Hence it is better to avoid opening a new engine unless there is any specific reason.
                              Change the oil or top up if necessary and wait. In my opinion, it is enough.

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                              • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                                These are the problems you pointed out.

                                1. The paint used on clutch and brake liver is low quality when compared to other bikes and hence your fingers get black while riding.

                                2. Your usual riding distance is very short but now you have to ride longer in city. When riding this longer distance in city, the engine knocks when you try to accelerate and the knocking worsens when engine becomes hotter.

                                3. During the mileage test, you got 48-50 kml. But it is hardly 40 kml in regular driving.

                                4. The knocking sound will be very much audible when the warranty period is over and do not know what to do then.

                                1. Here, the blackening is not due to the paint; it is due to the reaction of your sweat and dust from the air on the rubber compound used to make the grips. A regular cleaning of the grips with a good quality soap or shampoo will solve this issue.

                                2. There are many reasons for knocking of engine. But, here it is not due to any of it. Check the engine rpm, adjust it correctly, downshift the gear whenever necessary, and accelerate slowly. Further, clean the plug and adjust its gap or, if necessary, replace the plug. Nothing else is needed in this case.

                                3. As all of us know, mileage depend many factors. Driving in a city is very different from driving in highway. So, in cities, we cannot expect high mileage. More than that, you did not mention how you checked the mileage in city riding. If it is R to R method, it is not reliable. Maintain the bike in good condition, get it tuned by the sc mechanic if necessary and try to refine your driving habits. This will give good results and this is the only remedy.



                                Is this the sum total of the problems your bike have? Strange!
                                Dear Vishnu....
                                This is the not the only bike i have ridden on earth and i have two more bikes apart from this..
                                Even those bikes have clutch leaver, engine and similar things...
                                It is not the sweat reaction, I have seen the SC guys doing touch up on the leaver almost all bikes piled up for service... and the worst thing is the touchup what they did made my fingers even worse
                                And about the mileage, i have been checking R-R method since the time i purchased this bike.. even full tank method also i have checked...

                                and I don't understand how u can say that once bike is not defective without even having a look about it... Maybe ur bike is good, doesn't mean that mine is the same... Or I don't know how to ride

                                One request from my side is that before u stress upon your points, please make sure that u go through the previous posts of whomever u r replying, please understand his knowledge level about the bikes and then respond accordingly... To be frank, I have no patience reading all posts.. So in such cases i don't stress my points Hope u get what i am trying to say


                                Still, the multiple personality of this bike is not answered

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