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**kantu** · 06-27-2012, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by vivekgautams View Post

Fill slightly more air pressure while riding in the rain..Say 26-28 in front & 33-34 in the rear

Woah

Dont DO it ! On TVS tyres ? This helps in more skidding ! When you blow up a tire more than needed surface contact gets lost. And lesser part of tire is in contact with ground ergo reducing grip which already is thanks to TVS tires.

**vrags** · 06-27-2012, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by vivekgautams View Post

It take quite a bit of time. Say you enter your bike at 9am at the SVC, your bike is ready by 4-5pm.. & generally SVC do not allow the customers entering the work shop..

In fact, it only takes around 2-3 hours to get your bike completely serviced, depending on the # of service. You can find the list of things to be done on bike on each of the service tenure.

Though not too many SVCs allow customers to enter the servicing area, u can have it approved upon insist. Demand for it, as I can do it anytime when i give it for servicing.

Today morning also, i had been there nearly 1 hours, while replacing the break fluid on front n rear.

Originally posted by Iceman_1 View Post

We should reduce the tire pressure during rains rather than increasing it

+1

Originally posted by kantu View Post

Woah

Dont DO it ! On TVS tyres ? This helps in more skidding ! When you blow up a tire more than needed surface contact gets lost. And lesser part of tire is in contact with ground ergo reducing grip which already is thanks to TVS tires.

+100...

The pathetic Srichakra demonstrate its belly dancing on wet tarmac.. while on dry, it isnt really bad. I have one of my favorite corner on my way to office, which i take on nearly 80 on dry and 30 on wet.. imagine the difference... It's very true.. Best advice.. wait for 20k atleast and go for Pirelli, which has good review as of now on our beast...

**vrags** · 06-27-2012, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by shiwaan View Post

for front it is 25 psi
for rear it is 28 psi (without pillion) 32 psi (with pillion)

I agree. but better yet is to have 24 on front for a bit more grip.

by the way at @ll members my odo completed 5000 kms half century
going for last service within few days
till now running awesome with ABS

Good going.. Dont forget to replace the DISC PADS. If u need to save the plates from being replaced shortly, go for new set of pads. Watch out for crate formation around the disc plate, which reflects the health and efficiency of discs.

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

Well how much time it takes for a servicing, I am willing to stand in garage/svc to see what they are doing, Even i would be happy doing some of things by myself (learning prospective)...

Sure sir....

Any good Reputed mechanic/Garage in Mumbai ? Quick & Trust-able ?

Yesterday I was riding in Heavy Rain complete wait road, everything was working fine except rear Tyre, it was scary for me i mean i was feeling like i am riding with Puncture Tyre or Flat Tyre with Zero Grip (I mean it), ASAP i tries to reach above 30kmph, some weird feeling use to develop which got more scary when i am trying to turn my bike, Exactly remember the Game GTA Vice City where in if your Tyre get puncture your Car/Bike used to slide Left right, i wasn't able to brake easily too, there was lots of scary moments where i felt if i didnt slowed down or didnt straighten my bike i would have crashed a bad crash with Heavy Truck running back to back on that Ghat kind a Road, Was scary ... I am not sure what was the problem but there is something wrong With Tyre, Air Pressure or My handling of bike, however 3rd point is heartbreaking for me but can be possible, but i am riding same bike from last 2 weeks never felt any such issue ... Help ... And whats the Tyre pressure in both tyre ? I would like to know this

Nope... i dont knw one in mumbai.. I'm from Bangalore...

**vivekgautams** · 06-27-2012, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by Iceman_1 View Post

We should reduce the tire pressure during rains rather than increasing it

Originally posted by rocker View Post

If you believe too much in your helmet do what you have advised. BTW no offence

+1

Originally posted by kantu View Post

Woah

Dont DO it ! On TVS tyres ? This helps in more skidding ! When you blow up a tire more than needed surface contact gets lost. And lesser part of tire is in contact with ground ergo reducing grip which already is thanks to TVS tires.

Guys, Update your selves...
Read this:-

xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/art-safe-riding/10773-riding-rains.html

@rocker: I do trust LS2 but I trust myself more.

**kantu** · 06-27-2012, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by vivekgautams View Post

xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/art-safe-riding/10773-riding-rains.html

I think you are talking about the section related to hydroplaning.

Originally posted by http://www.smartmotorist.com/driving-guideline/hydroplaning-aquaplaning.html

Hydroplaning is the result of your tires moving quickly across a wet surface - so fast that they do not have sufficient time to channel that moisture away from the center of the tire. The result is that the tire is lifted by the water away from the road, losing all traction

So its only applicable when you have a worn out set of tires that have lost its tread or its tread pattern is horrible that it no longer can channel the water out and this happens when you are moving at high speeds. So under normal conditions hydroplaning doesnt happen. This is what i understood. Please correct me if wrong.

**vrags** · 06-27-2012, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by kantu View Post

I think you are talking about the section related to hydroplaning.

So its only applicable when you have a worn out set of tires that have lost its tread or its tread pattern is horrible that it no longer can channel the water out and this happens when you are moving at high speeds. So under normal conditions hydroplaning doesnt happen. This is what i understood. Please correct me if wrong.

Quite interesting topic this is. I got a new topic to do some research on. I'll be back with my findings on this..

**vivekgautams** · 06-27-2012, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by kantu View Post

I think you are talking about the section related to hydroplaning.

So its only applicable when you have a worn out set of tires that have lost its tread or its tread pattern is horrible that it no longer can channel the water out and this happens when you are moving at high speeds. So under normal conditions hydroplaning doesnt happen. This is what i understood. Please correct me if wrong.

Yup, Hydroplaning is the reason that the bikes rear tyre skids..
Yes.. Worn out tyres cause the Hydroplaning effect more easily & at lower speeds.

**shiwaan** · 06-27-2012, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by vivekgautams View Post

Fill slightly more air pressure while riding in the rain..Say 26-28 in front & 33-34 in the rear.This helps channel the water on the road away from underneath the tire.

bro you telling this thing reversely
this will help more in skidding Tyre pressure should be 25 front and 28 in rear in normal condition in rains it should be same or a bit less

**shiwaan** · 06-27-2012, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by vrags View Post

Good going.. Dont forget to replace the DISC PADS. If u need to save the plates from being replaced shortly, go for new set of pads. Watch out for crate formation around the disc plate, which reflects the health and efficiency of discs.

thanks at kms should i changed them as they are not worn out till now

**Krish1417** · 06-28-2012, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by vrags View Post

Good going.. Dont forget to replace the DISC PADS. If u need to save the plates from being replaced shortly, go for new set of pads. Watch out for crate formation around the disc plate, which reflects the health and efficiency of discs.

Do we need the replace the pads even if the pads are not worn out.My bike reads 10400kms on odo.
What is the crate formation

**vrags** · 06-28-2012, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by shiwaan View Post

thanks at kms should i changed them as they are not worn out till now

Originally posted by Krish1417 View Post

Do we need the replace the pads even if the pads are not worn out.My bike reads 10400kms on odo.
What is the crate formation

Yes. Based on my own experience, we need to change it every 5-6k kms inorder to maintain the healthier disc plates. The healthy plate i mean, is nothin but the flat surface without any uneven surface. You can feel it by brushing the disc plates with ur fingers. The moment u notice slight craved surface, realize its time to replace the pads. The longer we run on worn pads, the harder it rubs the plates, causing in its corrosion.

**vivekgautams** · 06-28-2012, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by shiwaan View Post

bro you telling this thing reversely
this will help more in skidding Tyre pressure should be 25 front and 28 in rear in normal condition in rains it should be same or a bit less

1.Normal riding condition:-
If you keep a 25 psi the bike rides fine..
If the front loses a few psi the front end of the bike starts to wobble while cornering .As the tyre loses its shape. & the read also tends to pull away from where you want to go..
When the tyre's air pressure is 25psi & 28/30 psi, nails & other sharp objects penetrate the tyre more easily..(I got this info from quite a good mechanic/tyre expert, who a very large & very busy shop). & stones/ potholes will damage your rim very easily.

2. Riding in the rain:-
The above mentioned problems will increase when you further decrease the tyre pressure. & the tyre will not be able to channel away the water from under the tyre as the tyre shape changes, rendering the threads useless...
But the braking distance will increase a bit & fuel efficiency will also increase..

Ps: I have personally tried & tested the higher tyre pressure theory. It does work.

Well... Its upto you to understand & try.

**shiwaan** · 06-28-2012, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by vrags View Post

Yes. ........ causing in its corrosion.

ok i will check and replace them

Originally posted by vivekgautams View Post

1.Normal riding condition:-
If you keep a 25 psi the bike rides fine..
If the front loses a few psi the front end of the bike starts to wobble while cornering
Ps: I have personally tried & tested the higher tyre pressure theory. It does work.

Well... Its upto you to understand & try.

you might be rite we just have to try then but ridding fast in rain is not a good option more tyre pressure tyre will be more hard cornering will be good i agree but the grip on road will be less and while braking we will be getting less contact area and and it will increase the chance of skidding

and also more air pressure can make slip you tyre while raining if you throttle hard at that time.........thats my experience.....

**shahbaz63** · 06-28-2012, 11:22 AM

Well checked air pressure kept front 28psi & back 32 psi....Still gripping isnt that good..., somehow while riding at higher speed on wet road i am feeling bit comfortable with rear brakes, Tyres & cornering but i can feel the discomfort-ness when trying to go fast initially (accelaration) on front Tyre... might be because i have added 3-4 psi more in front Tyre ...

**shahbaz63** · 06-28-2012, 11:28 AM

This is what i got from that Article (Ride Safe)

For riding in the rain here are some thoughts that can help:

Road grip : If your tyre is old, or you are facing big issues with road grip, a temporary solution is to lower the tyre pressure slightly (5-6 psi will do) to get better grip till you can replace the tyre.

we have got some conflicting suggestions here.

while Prince(xBhpian) Saying this :-
earlier, i too used to think that decreasing the tyre pressure help increase the tyre grip, but after reading a few articles on the internet about hydroplanning and tyre traction, i now think that increasing the pressure a bit might actually increase the grip.

also i have read in articles that hydroplanning generally happens with cars and that too with less air pressure, since bike tyres have a curved profile, there are negligible chances of hydroplanning.

expert, help here.

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